Rise of the Planet of the Apes - Part 2

[Octoberist]

No...they could easily just say this is a reboot and go on with their own version of the story. There is no need to try and add in some sort of alternate reality explanation.

And this timeline has already differed from the previous series, since in the old films, Caesar was the son of two apes from the future, which he obviously was not in this one.

But with Beneath of the Planet of the Apes, it created a time paradox; where the future creates itself in a circle.

Just like John Connor in Terminator; who was John Connor's original father before Kyle Reese??

 

[Marx]

I'm not sure if this has been posted in here or not. (I've been avoiding this thread like the plague until I finally got to see this. Haha.)

THE 21 NODS FROM "RISE" TO THE CLASSIC "APES"
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/08/11/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-21-nods-to-classic-apes/

 

[Marx]

I can't remember the original. Is Ceaser in it? Is the nasty scarred one in it? I think I remember the nasty one from the rubbish Marky Mark remake.

Ceasar wasn't in the original. He was the one who led the charge in "Conquest".

 

[steintym]

THE 21 NODS FROM "RISE" TO THE CLASSIC "APES"
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/08/11/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-21-nods-to-classic-apes/

Thanks for posting. Some pretty cool stuff.

 

[Golgo-13]

Awesome read. I own the first two Apes films, but haven't seen the last two Apes films since i was a kid.

 

[steintym]

It has been so long since I've seen any of the originals, I really need to give them all another viewing. I really don't even remember most of the sequels.

 

[Marx]

Thanks for posting. Some pretty cool stuff.

Yeah, I caught some of them but missed some of them as well. It's really neat that they threw in so many nods to the originals.

 

[Sebastos]

I'm in the mood to watch the originals now, Apes marathon it shall be.

 

[steintym]

Yeah, I caught some of them but missed some of them as well. It's really neat that they threw in so many nods to the originals.

I agree - Some were pretty obvious, but some of them I really didn't catch while I was watching the movie. It would be fun to rematch the originals again. Going have to line that up.

 

[Figs]

I think I like this one the most, next to the Icarus one of course.

Spoiler

13. No means no: Caesar’s powerfully enunciated “No!” is a major moment in the new film and ties back into “Escape from the Planet of the Apes” when Cornelius explains that the ascent and revolt by his species began when an ape first uttered the word “No” to protest the human treatment of his kind.

 

[steintym]

^ That was awesome. I really didn't see it coming and I got chills when it happened.

 

[co2]

Thanks for posting. That was cool.
I grew up watching the original films on TV, so I'm a big fan, and it's nice to see this franchise revived successfully.
The original films are such a great saga (laid the groundwork for Star Wars and others of it's kind), but old and it seems like not a lot of people, especially young people, have seen or appreciate them. It's hard to find someone that you can geek out with over Apes films.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Didn't starwars take stuff from old serials and specifically "The Hidden Fortress"?

 

[co2]

Didn't starwars take stuff from old serials and specifically "The Hidden Fortress"?

Well of course, among many other things, like aurthurian myth. But I'm talking about translating that into marketing of a filmic saga. In fact, I heard a comment from Mark Hamil, that when Star Wars was first released, his hope was that it would be as successful as Planet of the Apes.

 

[Marvel Spider]

^ That was awesome. I really didn't see it coming and I got chills when it happened.

It was pretty much a "Holy crap" moment in the theater when that happened.

 

[steintym]

That was something that coule have been really cheesy, but I think they did an awesome job with it.

 

[Venomfan]

one thing i didnt quite get was the cookie bit. Caesar gives Rocket the cookie and then makes him give others the cookie. was that just saying "take the cookie if you're with me" or was there some other significance?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

one thing i didnt quite get was the cookie bit. Caesar gives Rocket the cookie and then makes him give others the cookie. was that just saying "take the cookie if you're with me" or was there some other significance?

I just think he was saying "I'm above this, you do it".

 

[steintym]

I guess I took it that he was forcing his will on him. There was some acceptance by giving the initial cookie and then showing dominance by having him pass out the cookies ... but I really don't know

 

[Marx]

I think I like this one the most, next to the Icarus one of course.

Spoiler

13. No means no: Caesar’s powerfully enunciated “No!” is a major moment in the new film and ties back into “Escape from the Planet of the Apes” when Cornelius explains that the ascent and revolt by his species began when an ape first uttered the word “No” to protest the human treatment of his kind.

^ That was awesome. I really didn't see it coming and I got chills when it happened.

Same here steintym.

It was pretty much a "Holy crap" moment in the theater when that happened.

Definitely.

 

[danoyse]

It was pretty much a "Holy crap" moment in the theater when that happened.

I saw the movie with my folks. My mom's exact words at that scene: "Well, that was the 'holy **** moment, wasn't it?"

 

[Marx]

I also geeked out when Caesar came out of the fog riding on horseback!

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

one thing i didnt quite get was the cookie bit. Caesar gives Rocket the cookie and then makes him give others the cookie. was that just saying "take the cookie if you're with me" or was there some other significance?

I was thinking that Caesar did that because Rocket was the "Alpha-Male" before he came. When Caesar made him pass out the cookies, it was showing that he was now the one in charge while also teaching the Apes how to cooperate with each other and be unified. Sort of saying, "Since we're a family, everyone gets a slice of the pie"(or cookies, in that case). He made more of a point of this when he had that talk with Maurice about the Apes having to stick together to be strong. I also think that he took some pleasure in doing that to Rocket because of how he beat Caesar down the first time they met.

Did anyone else notice how prideful Caesar was when Rocket was handing out the cookies? He was enjoying his new-found power with a passion, he even gave Maurice a sly smirk as Rocket went around the room doing his bidding. It was even apparent in the way that he was standing... I love this movie, so much.

 

[Mike_D202]

I was thinking that Caesar did that because Rocket was the "Alpha-Male" before he came. When Caesar made him pass out the cookies, it was showing that he was now the one in charge while also teaching the Apes how to cooperate with each other and be unified. Sort of saying, "Since we're a family, everyone gets a slice of the pie"(or cookies, in that case). He made more of a point of this when he had that talk with Maurice about the Apes having to stick together to be strong. I also think that he took some pleasure in doing that to Rocket because of how he beat Caesar down the first time they met.

Did anyone else notice how prideful Caesar was when Rocket was handing out the cookies? He was enjoying his new-found power with a passion, he even gave Maurice a sly smirk as Rocket went around the room doing his bidding. It was even apparent in the way that he was standing... I love this movie, so much.

He had Rocket do it becuase Rocket treated the other apes like they were below him, and since he had him hand out the cookies to everyone he was essentially making "peace" so everybody works together. Ceaser wasn't doing it to show him whose boss, he was doing it to show that all the apes are equals and are one.

 

[co2]

He had Rocket do it becuase Rocket treated the other apes like they were below him, and since he had him hand out the cookies to everyone he was essentially making "peace" so everybody works together. Ceaser wasn't doing it to show him whose boss, he was doing it to show that all the apes are equals and are one.

straight up