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Robert Downey Jr. Is Doom - "Same task, new mask"

We don't know. The final draft of these movies are not even done.

You're basically saying it's impossible to write in the real Doom within 6 hours of runtime (FF, Doomsday, Secret Wars).

Anything is possible.
Like I said, you are delusional if you think this isn't intended to be the MCU Doctor Doom story. This is the 1st Avengers crossover since Endgame. Their main event. They're not giving that spot to a temporary version of Doom. I don't have to read the script to know this. Thinking otherwise is delusional.
 
Oh I doubt RDJ is sticking around after Secret Wars. So yall just gotta get used to this being your Doctor Doom story. He isn't going to be like Loki and be in loads of projects for 20 years. This is it. That's the price you pay to rush Doom out there for Secret Wars. I hope everyone is happy
F***ing Majors, man. Granted, it's not technically his fault that Marvel came to this decision but he was a catalyst.
 
If this guy just shows up in the next avengers movie without a presence in this F4 movie, what are we even doing here

I don’t love the situation whatsoever, but you need to establish some sort of connection with Pedro’s Reed. Doom is at his best when there’s a Reed Richards in his way.
 
Oh I doubt RDJ is sticking around after Secret Wars. So yall just gotta get used to this being your Doctor Doom story. He isn't going to be like Loki and be in loads of projects for 20 years. This is it. That's the price you pay to rush Doom out there for Secret Wars. I hope everyone is happy

This right here. The choices they've made here pretty much guarantee that Doom will be a one-and-done villain. If they wanted to create a character that sticks around then they would have waited until the FF sequel to introduce him.
 
He basically copy and pasted points made on nerd forums.
As is maybe , but how he feels is how I feel about it , which is why I mentioned him.

I would have just posted the video itself , but I didn't due to some of the language in it.
 
You're assuming he'll have a significant part to play to begin with in Fantastic 4. I don't expect him to pop up in anything more than a cliffhanger at the end of that movie.
That still leaves 4 to 5 hours to introduce real Doom.

I can easily see Iron Doom going soft near the end of Doomsday and the real Doom pushing him aside.

This would leave Secret Wars for the real Doom and satisfy all parties.
 
That still leaves 4 to 5 hours to introduce real Doom.

I can easily see Iron Doom going soft near the end of Doomsday and the real Doom pushing him aside.

This would leave Secret Wars for the real Doom and satisfy all parties.
This I can guarantee you is not happening
 
Truth be told, Kang was not over with the audience, so this may still have happened. But it certainly didn't help.
Hypothetically, if Majors hadn't done anything wrong and they decided to do Doomsday instead of Kang Dynasty, the very idea of them replacing a title character played by a black actor in favor of Dr. Doom would have been a PR s***storm for them. It's exactly what happened anyway but because Majors is an abuser they were able to wipe the slate with little to no resistance.
 
so, is this a Doom variant that just happens to look like RDJ? or did a variant of Iron Man become Doom?

or is it a Tony Stark that became Doom instead of Iron Man?

there's so many different ways to play this
 
That still leaves 4 to 5 hours to introduce real Doom.

I can easily see Iron Doom going soft near the end of Doomsday and the real Doom pushing him aside.

This would leave Secret Wars for the real Doom and satisfy all parties.
Doom is a character that should have been built up over the course of several movies. Shoving him into two Avengers movie in which he has to share screentime with god knows how many other superhero characters (and most likely variants as well) and calling it a day is not enough time to establish Doom imo.

Also I can tell you right now, that idea of yours is 100% unlikely to happen. RDJ is the defacto MCU Doom, variant or not.
 
Like I said, you are delusional if you think this isn't intended to be the MCU Doctor Doom story. This is the 1st Avengers crossover since Endgame. Their main event. They're not giving that spot to a temporary version of Doom. I don't have to read the script to know this. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

Delusional?

It's a multiverse variant. Why would he be the final version?

Again, that doesn't make sense.

I think either of us could be right. It's up to the screen writers, not you or me.
 
Doom is a character that should have been built up over the course of several movies. Shoving him into two Avengers movie in which he has to share screentime with god knows how many other superhero characters (and most likely variants as well) and calling it a day is not enough time to establish Doom imo.

Also I can tell you right now, that idea of yours is 100% unlikely to happen. RDJ is the defacto MCU Doom, variant or not.
Iron Doom going soft is 100% unlikely? Really?
 
Delusional?

It's a multiverse variant. Why would he be the final version?

Again, that doesn't make sense.

I think either of us could be right. It's up to the screen writers, not you or me.
And in the end, I am very confident the one that is going to be right is me. Very confident. If you think they're just using a temporary Doom in what they're hoping is their biggest Box Offixe event ever, all the power to you. Enjoy that optimism. But using the time stone, I see no universe this happens. Not even 1
 
Dreading that he’ll try to improvise one liners as Doom when they start filming.
 
Doom quipping would be the last straw in a long line of last straws. Like, I could see people walking out of theater if that were to happen. :funny:
 
Even if you use the variant multiverse to explain him as Doom and we possibly get the real Doom...it was done already with Mandarin. They faked the real Mandarin and eventually gave a real one for a one off. If they give a real Doom it won't be a long running one.

I haven't watched Dr.Strange MoM since release but if they don't say Stark died they likely just have him be evil Stark. That universe had different forms of Marvel and Cap so thinking they may go that route.

Either way it would be better to just give the character from the start not another fake version as a test run. I think they focus on X-Men after all this is done so they won't give us a real Dr.Doom since Magneto will likely be a focused villain and the internal stories of the X-Men.
 
Doom quipping would be the last straw in a long line of last straws. Like, I could see people walking out of theater if that were to happen. :funny:
I am saving yall the spoiler: Doom is gonna be quippy. You are getting Iron Doom. You are not getting Victor Von Doom. Don't be shocked when Victor is sparky like everyone was with Ultron
 
Yeah, so this is clearly another one of those fandom triggering polarizing topics which will go on for the next few years.

I'm gonna exit stage right , in hopes that Someday, we'll get a Spiderman 4 update.

I'm peaceing out, and i'll even throw in some other character gifs for good measure.

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I haven't watched Dr.Strange MoM since release but if they don't say Stark died they likely just have him be evil Stark. That universe had different forms of Marvel and Cap so thinking they may go that route.
Heck, that Illuminati universe had Ultron bots, so it would definitely would be an organic continuation if the Stark from that world was Superior Iron Man and became an antagonist. Granted, not the main villain of this two-parter since I still would have prefered a recasted Kang.

As it is, Feige dropped the ball big time, but folks are eating it up and both Avengers flicks will more than likely make bank, so it is what it is unfortunately.
 
Either way it would be better to just give the character from the start not another fake version as a test run. I think they focus on X-Men after all this is done so they won't give us a real Dr.Doom since Magneto will likely be a focused villain and the internal stories of the X-Men.

This is my hope, at this point.

Wrap up everything in the MCU and reset in 2028 with an X-Men reboot. The next saga can be the Mutant Saga and we can put the Avengers and the other MCU heroes away for a while until we need to reintroduce certain characters, recast, etc.
 
Let's get nuts. Chris Evans comes back as Annihilus.
 

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