Comics Rogue's non-control of her powers

[Eirliel]

I don't think Xavier ever helped her really to control her powers, I mean it's not like Cyclops who had slight brain damage(which is why he can't control his), she just needs to be trained. GRR at Xavier for that!

 

[warpdrive]

I didn't read about this yet, what method did he use?

 

[Eirliel]

I can't remember any real methods, so obviously it was more of a "here, learn by osmosis thing," by that I mean he DIDN'T help her at all

 

[Chasers1984(2)]

Actually Cyclops never had brain damage. If you have been reading the most recent issues of Astonishing you would know that the brain damage was basically an excuse for him to not be in control. It's this really long passive aggressive thing that he does but it makes perfect sense. And is actually quite interesting and broadens his character greatly.

As for Rogue... what exactly would you have Xavier do? There was a time when she could control her powers and it was ******ed beyond all compare. I mean her gene makeup dictates that she can absorb other's energy and use it. Not amount of tinkering with the mind is going to change basic genetic makeup. So there's really nothing he could do. Maybe along the lines of recalling past powers but nothing would come of him trying to teach her to touch people without absorbing them.

 

[Eirliel]

But he never even tried. And if you suscribe to the genetics can't be controled theory, none of the mutants would be able to control their powers.

 

[Eirliel]

I, personally, would try the option perscribed in the short lived TV show The Sentinal: imagine your powers as a dial(like volume dials on your stereo) and turn it down or off.

 

[HandOfFate]

IIRC, Rogue does have control of her powers, she just doesn't know it. Correct me if I'm wrong but Rogue's Carol Denver personality had control of Rogue's absorption abilities.

Rogue and Scott have the same problem.

 

[masterj]

It's true that the Carol Danvers personality who used to inhabit Rogue's body with her could contorl the apsorption powers. this lead many to belive that it is an emotional reason that Rogue can't contorl her powers. This could be possibly due to the trauma she faced after her powers manifested on her first kiss. If it is an emotional problem Xavier should have really helped her a long time ago and the fact that he hasn't means he is a useless teacher who had not fufilled his promise to help her with her powers.

 

[HandOfFate]

If it is an emotional problem Xavier should have really helped her a long time ago and the fact that he hasn't means he is a useless teacher who had not fufilled his promise to help her with her powers.

Well, remember that Rogue's psyche is extremely hard to manipulate because of all the personalities within her head. Xavier could have tried to cure Rogue but the multiple personalities hamper his abilities to the point that all he can do is reinforce Rogue’s psyche.

 

[masterj]

Yer but surely he could change things bit by bit over the course of her stay with the X-Men. A pyschic theraphy lesson every now and then could have sorted her powers out years ago.

 

[Slim_X]

I don't think Xavier ever helped her really to control her powers, I mean it's not like Cyclops who had slight brain damage(which is why he can't control his), she just needs to be trained. GRR at Xavier for that!

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday, but in the end I think she'd be too powerful if she could control her powers.

 

[Cosmic Mind]

maybe its emotional, maybe not, who knows, but what if she learn to control the amount of energy/power/memories that she absorbs???? there must be a way.... just to reduce the absortion, not to stop it....

 

[Fenryr]

There was a bit of her training with Xavier in Rogue's Marvel Icons mini a couple years ago, but it didn't really deal with control of her powers. He seemed more focused on blocking out other people's memories by putting up "psychic walls".

As for being written poorly when she had control over her powers, that's more to do with the writer's competence than just "the idea is bad".

 

[Specter313]

Xavier isn't about just giving people a "quick fix" to their problems. For them to grow and truly be able to accept their powers, they have to do the work themselves, and not just sit back and let Xavier do it. Rogue's inability to control her power so that she can touch others without absorbing them has wildly been suggested to be an emotional one for her, such as the times when Ms. Marvel's mind took over her body and she could touch others. If Rogue wants to be in control, she needs to learn to confront whatever is stopping herself on her own, and not rely on others to do it for her.

 

[masterj]

Yer but Xavier could atleast guide her. He could have told her that it is an emotional problem and let Rogue go on from there. For all Rogue knows she thinks it's in her genes which is why she can't contorl it. Xavier could have atleast told her there was something she could have done herself in which case she probably would have worked alot harder at it.

 

[Specter313]

Yer but Xavier could atleast guide her. He could have told her that it is an emotional problem and let Rogue go on from there. For all Rogue knows she thinks it's in her genes which is why she can't contorl it. Xavier could have atleast told her there was something she could have done herself in which case she probably would have worked alot harder at it.

He has been guiding her and she knows that the problem lies within her. She's not blind or dumb. She just isnt' facing her problems.

 

[chris moore]

Three words: FORGE NEUTRALISING DEVICE

Something she can switch on or off at will to negate or allow her powers. So many villains have used such things over the years, but no one has ever given rogue one to use around the mansion, in her private life or in public when not on a mission. Somethin starts up? She flicks it off and goes to work. Kinda like Kurt walking round with an image inducer

 

[warpdrive]

well it seems in a wierd way the problem fixed itself, the latest ultimate x-men graphic novel: gambit is killed while to defend rouge from juggernaut and as he dies he gives his remaining power to her. Now she is able to touch whoever she wants.

 

[Fenryr]

Three words: FORGE NEUTRALISING DEVICE

Something she can switch on or off at will to negate or allow her powers. So many villains have used such things over the years, but no one has ever given rogue one to use around the mansion, in her private life or in public when not on a mission. Somethin starts up? She flicks it off and goes to work. Kinda like Kurt walking round with an image inducer

That's actually such a simple idea, it's distressing no writer's done it before. She-Hulk and Surge from Academy X have power controlling bracelets/gauntlets, too.

 

[Eirliel]

I've previously thought about the mechanical device to control her powers, and, while it's a good idea, it isn't fesible for anything but a backup really. But to reiterate, SHE WAS NEVER HELPED OR TAUGHT, how is she to magically learn how to control it, it's like expectinga person who's lived in the wilderness and never had human contact to know how to read or do trigonomitry or something asinine like that. She's only observed that others can control their powers, but she's never been taught HOW!

 

[Red Mask]

Yes! OK! Xavier NEVER taught her how! Satisfied?

 

[ghost113]

How many years as she been an X-man and she still can't control her powers, she's a cool charcter but it's kind of pathetic, that she has no control over it.

 

[Phoenix342]

I dont think its pathetic that she cant control it, i mean it's her mutation it is in her skin to absorb others lifeforce or mutation, it's genetic, that would be like a white person trying to make their skin black just by concentrating, it just wouldnt happen. It's not the fact that she didnt try to learn or noone helped her it's just that she cant turn it on or off, it's that simple.

 

[Red Mask]

No. The absorbed Carol Danvers personality proved she could touch other people with Rogue's body. (Somebody find the Uncanny X-Men issue for that.) So it shows that Rogue can mentally control it if she pursued the means.

 

[tirminyl]

Like everyone stated. It's an emotional issue that Rogue needs to deal with.