Rorshcach

[Sundancer]

Did you find him to be a tragic or sympathetic character?

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Were you sad that he died?

 

[Sundancer]

45 views and no one has an opinion? Wow...

 

[Rain Dog]

I was kinda sad when he died, yes. I think some aspects of Rorschach are sympathetic, despite his ignorance and over-all lunacy.

 

[Loyalbeta]

yes, I liked him. Yes, I was sad that he died.

It wasn't really so much that he died, but how he died...

See, I found similarities in Rorshcach and Dr Manhattan.

Both were very, very removed from humanity. On one hand, R was convinced that everyone around him was guilty of something, that humanity as a whole was rotten and deserved what it got. Dr M was completely detached too, but for different reasons; he felt that there was nothing really special about humanity, and that it didn't really warrant his attention.

I found it sad because, the way I see it, Dr M killing R pretty much reinforces R's theories about humanity, especially when someone as disconnected as Dr M could still kill in cold blood.

 

[babbling_dead]

Rorschach is my favorite character by far. he stands out by sticking to his principals. i can relate because i have also lost hope in humanity and my convictions are never weak. also, hes a little crazy so it makes for an interesting read. i'm excited for the movie but i'd probably rather keep my imagination's image of him instead of seeing him portrayed. the movie better kick ass.

 

[Sundancer]

yes, I liked him. Yes, I was sad that he died.

It wasn't really so much that he died, but how he died...

See, I found similarities in Rorshcach and Dr Manhattan.

Both were very, very removed from humanity. On one hand, R was convinced that everyone around him was guilty of something, that humanity as a whole was rotten and deserved what it got. Dr M was completely detached too, but for different reasons; he felt that there was nothing really special about humanity, and that it didn't really warrant his attention.

I found it sad because, the way I see it, Dr M killing R pretty much reinforces R's theories about humanity, especially when someone as disconnected as Dr M could still kill in cold blood.

I hadn't thought of that. Cool observation!


Yes, Rorschach was badass, but he didn't seem as plausible since he didn't carry any weapons. I was wondering what would happen if a big guy threatned him in a bar.

I really felt bad for the guy when the cops were arresting him. It's so unlike teh Punisher where a lot of cops respect him. I think thats going to be one teh scenes I look forward to in the movie.

 

[John Galt]

I really dislike the way Rorschach died. I think he was more clever than that throughout the story, and the end seemed like kind of a cop-out. I loved the book, but that could have been done so much better. Since he knew Dr M was blind to the future at the moment, I think he would have played along in an effort to punish Ozy later.

They could have had Dr. M zap off planet away from the tachyons, just like he did, and then seen what happens to the future if Rorschach succeeds. Then he could have just zapped back and killed him. Same plot, but it makes Rorschach a little smarter.

Also, as to the not carrying weapons. I think most people don't realize the physicality of Rorschach. He's not huge or anything, but he really knows how to fight. When he realizes they have to take on Ozy, he notes that Ozy is faster than Nite Owl, and MAY even be faster than him. I don't think this is self deception. Ozy is obviously faster when they meet, but I think if Comedian bested him at one time in the past then Rorschach would have been able to, also. I think it was partly that defeat that made Ozy really focus on perfecting himself. I think Rorschach could have beaten any of the other Watchmen other than Ozy and M, including Comedian if he was able to disarm him quickly.

 

[BurningBallroom]

Rorschach is my favourite character, and I was heartbroken when he died. I admired his principles, and the fact that he was the only hero who ignored the Keene Bill in '77.

I liked how he was the opposite of Ozymondias. Ozy is rich, handsome and public, and Rorschach is poor, unattractive and private. I found it ironic when Ozy claimed he started out with nothing by giving away his fortune, yet Rorschach was the one who really had nothing. No family, no love, no money, no hope, no nothing.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Herein lies my one problem with Watchmen. The fact that Rorshach had to die. I also didn't like the fact that Veidt was allowed to live after what he did.

 

[Hello Beautiful]

I was gutted he had to die. Still fave character though.

 

[OctaviusINC]

Rorschach was not only my favorite Watchmen character but he's one of my favorite characters period. I find him to be very sympathetic and tragic. I sort of view him as a shell shocked war vet. A man who fights the good fight yet gets no respect. People viewed him as a loser. A nut. I sympathized with him in parts. I think everyone could, especially if you get angry or depressed now and then. He was a man with nothing. And I think what makes him so unique is that he isn't unique. He goes through the most punishment and gets all sides of it. He starts off with nothing and ends with nothing. He doesn't get any glory throughout the whole book. And his death will be forgotten.

So, yes, I was very sad when he died. I felt he was the most interesting character in the book and held the "Watchmen" together in his own strange way.

 

[Leenie]

Rorschach was not only my favorite Watchmen character but he's one of my favorite characters period. I find him to be very sympathetic and tragic. I sort of view him as a shell shocked war vet. A man who fights the good fight yet gets no respect. People viewed him as a loser. A nut. I sympathized with him in parts. I think everyone could, especially if you get angry or depressed now and then. He was a man with nothing. And I think what makes him so unique is that he isn't unique. He goes through the most punishment and gets all sides of it. He starts off with nothing and ends with nothing. He doesn't get any glory throughout the whole book. And his death will be forgotten.

So, yes, I was very sad when he died. I felt he was the most interesting character in the book and held the "Watchmen" together in his own strange way.

I agree with you 100%

 

[NoTsOsErIoUs]

I think the co-creator put it best.
He said that Rorschach was a character with a major deathwish, who was in constant psychological pain for most of his waking life.

If it wasn't the Veidt conspiricy that finally led to his death it would have been something else.

He is like Batman in that respect. Early traumatic events forming a mans character and driving them on a quest that can't really have any answer but most probably a tragic and violent demise.

Then again it's just an opinion.

 

[The Geek Vault]

in my opinion rorschach did not die, his alter ego died when he took of the mask, the spirit of rorschach lives on in that journal.

 

[Nameless Hero]

He absolutely is a sympathetic character, and I think Moore realized that people were connecting to him as the issues progressed. The tears in his final panel as he removes the mask from his face hits pretty hard.

 

[Zombie Superman]

How about a ****ing spoiler warning, for those of us who haven't finished the book yet?

Dumbass.

Z\S/

 

[dr.strange]

damn zombie,after reading the third post,you should've known what was up....no offense.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Rosarch and Ozy were easily my favorites...
I wish both could have been alive ...
Manhattan should have been killed...

 

[ronny]

Mr. Kovacs was an odd one, he inspired a great deal of emotions in me.
On the one hand I admired his integrity, I believe his hard-nosed attitude is something many people can respect - if not identify with.
However, his views on certain issues are unreasonable and bigoted. Especially the homosexual quip, so what if Veidt was gay? How does that prove his poor character?
Essentially he was a nasty man in a nasty world.
He can't even keep up with his own hypocrisy. He opposes Veidt's plan but admires Truman for using the same concept.
He's got good qualities but the man is warped. His death was the result of a hissy fit. He couldn't see the logic behind what Adrian had done or that it was the right thing to steer the world away from destruction.
No, all he did was storm off, start crying and tell Dr. Manhattan to finish him off.
Childish.

 

[[A]]

in my opinion rorschach did not die, his alter ego died when he took of the mask, the spirit of rorschach lives on in that journal.

he's having a talk with Harvey Dent, actually

 

[Rasputin911]

He and Ozy were the only proactive "heroes"...everyone else had to be pushed into the action (not counting Comedian)

Those two were out making their mark on the world from the beginning...in this respect they are a lot alike despite all their other differences

 

[bullets]

How about a ****ing spoiler warning, for those of us who haven't finished the book yet?

Dumbass.

Z\S/

Why don't you finish reading before you go online to discuss the novel?




I like that Rorshach stayed true to his principles. I was impressed with how interesting these characters became and it was sad to finish the novel and know that it was over indefinately.

 

[SuperFerret]

I didn't find Rorschach sympathetic at all. He is way too far out of my personal thought process for me to find anything to relate with him on. The closest is the pursuit of justice, but his philosophy on that is way too rigid and extreme for that to even be a valid connection. He was tragic, not because he dies at the end, but because of how he was forced to become what he was. What I'm saying is that Kovacs was tragic, Rorschach was not.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Mr. Kovacs was an odd one, he inspired a great deal of emotions in me.
On the one hand I admired his integrity, I believe his hard-nosed attitude is something many people can respect - if not identify with.
However, his views on certain issues are unreasonable and bigoted. Especially the homosexual quip, so what if Veidt was gay? How does that prove his poor character?
Essentially he was a nasty man in a nasty world.
He can't even keep up with his own hypocrisy. He opposes Veidt's plan but admires Truman for using the same concept.
He's got good qualities but the man is warped. His death was the result of a hissy fit. He couldn't see the logic behind what Adrian had done or that it was the right thing to steer the world away from destruction.
No, all he did was storm off, start crying and tell Dr. Manhattan to finish him off.
Childish.

Childish? You apparently didn't understand the book at all. You definitely don't know **** about Mr. Kovacs.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Rorschach is my favorite character by far. he stands out by sticking to his principals. i can relate because i have also lost hope in humanity and my convictions are never weak. also, hes a little crazy so it makes for an interesting read. i'm excited for the movie but i'd probably rather keep my imagination's image of him instead of seeing him portrayed. the movie better kick ass.

I just got home from the movie, and if you imagined him anything like I did, than your expectations will be met and surpassed. Haley did a spectacular job. He WAS Rorschach.