SAD NEWS!!!! for us xbox 360 fans!!!

[WhatsHisFace]

Well sucks for you then. Me, I will gladly buy NGS, and it's looking all the more likely now that NG2 will be a bi-console release, which for me is nothing but good news since I'm not buying a 360.

Also, those "scans" are crap. I'd wait for direct feed screens before passing judgment on the graphics.

You DO realise that this has nothing to do with the possibility of NG2 going multiplatform, right? Like, if you think they're related, you're seriously ******ed.

1. A last-gen port made by some scrappy Tecmo Team that can't be trusted making their own game.

2. A next-gen sequel made by the original creators, Team Ninja, run by Tomonobu Itagaki who believes in creating exclusive games.

The two are pretty different. You're making connections between unrelated things. It's like thinking that because we got FFXI on the 360, that we'll get FFXII on there, too.

 

[Timstuff]

Okay then. Explain why Ninja Gaiden is coming to PS3 then.

TN is too busy with other projects to port the original Ninja Gaiden to PS3, which is why it's being done by someone else. Ninja Gaiden 2 is not yet in developement, but once it is I think it's a safe bet that it will be on PS3, either being developed simeltaneously, or coming out a few months later with a few goodies tossed in like with Resident Evil 4.

Tecmo is the ones with the money. If they tell Team Ninja to make NG2 for PS3 and Xbox 360, they'll do it. It doesn't matter wether or not Itagaki believes in doing exclusive games, because if he did then it's already irrelevant since Tecmo would have had to circumvent him to get NG on PS3 in the first place.

 

[Avalanche]

The two are pretty different. You're making connections between unrelated things. It's like thinking that because we got FFXI on the 360, that we'll get FFXII on there, too.

FFXI was a different situation. It was never a 'true' Final Fantasy game.

The PS3 version of NG is.

 

[THWIP*]

You DO realise that this has nothing to do with the possibility of NG2 going multiplatform, right? Like, if you think they're related, you're seriously ******ed.

1. A last-gen port made by some scrappy Tecmo Team that can't be trusted making their own game.

2. A next-gen sequel made by the original creators, Team Ninja, run by Tomonobu Itagaki who believes in creating exclusive games.

The two are pretty different. You're making connections between unrelated things. It's like thinking that because we got FFXI on the 360, that we'll get FFXII on there, too.

EXACTLY. THIS IS MORE LIKE 'SQUARE' GIVING THE '360' IT'S 'FFXI' PS2 LEFTOVERS, WHILE THE 'PS3' KEEPS THE "EXCLUSIVE" CONTENT THE FANS REALLY WANT........JUST IN REVERSE.

 

[THWIP*]

FFXI was a different situation. It was never a 'true' Final Fantasy game.

The PS3 version of NG is.

WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN?

 

[CM Punk]

stuff

RE Code Veronica and RE4 on PS2 means it gets RE Zero, right? MGS2: Substance on Xbox means it gets MGS3, and that 360 gets MGS4...right? Oh wait...nevermind I guess.

Yes, if they tell Team Ninja to do it, they will. And if they didn't tell them last time, when Xbox had less than 1/5th the marketshare of the PS2, they probably aren't going to tell them this time, when PS3 has no marketshare and 360 has sold millions. Team Ninja has said time and time again that they are remaining on the 360. You want me to explain why it's getting NG Sigma? Sure. Tecmo pulled the franchise out from under Itagaki (which stinks, and always leads to bad things. See the experiences of Sid Meyer, Peter Molyneux, Warren Spector, and Will Wright with EA), stuck it with a junior team that will port it to make a quick buck. Is NG2 possibly going to the PS3? Yes. Is NG2 probably heading to the PS3, or is that in anyway indicated by this deal, which is a totally different game from a totally different generation done by a totally different team for totally different reasons? No. You can believe whatever you want to believe, I don't have the time or willpower to try and convince you or people like you anymore, but there's a good chance you're going to be disappointed if you actually expect it to happen. You'd be the equavalent of someone still waiting for the MGS3: Substance announcement for Xbox because of the second game getting ported.

 

[Avalanche]

WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN?

It was a MMORPG rather than an ordinary RPG. It was a completely departure from the Final Fantasy games that had gone before, and those that went after. In this regard it wasn't really a true Final Fantasy game, in the way that FFX-2 wasn't really a true member of the franchise either.

Plus, thus far, there's just NG, which is being ported to PS3. The Final Fantasy series is on number XIII, and only one has been ported to the X-box.

I just think the situation is a little different.

 

[THWIP*]

It was a MMORPG rather than an ordinary RPG. It was a completely departure from the Final Fantasy games that had gone before, and those that went after. In this regard it wasn't really a true Final Fantasy game, in the way that FFX-2 wasn't really a true member of the franchise either.

Plus, thus far, there's just NG, which is being ported to PS3. The Final Fantasy series is on number XIII, and only one has been ported to the X-box.

I just think the situation is a little different.

SO, 'TEST DRIVE UNLIMITED' ISN'T REALLY A 'TEST DRIVE' GAME, JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN MMO?

 

[WhatsHisFace]

FFXI was a different situation. It was never a 'true' Final Fantasy game.

The PS3 version of NG is.

And that has exactly what to do with anything? A game's a game. Just like Ninja Gaiden and FFXI are last-gen ports to the opposite next-gen hardware.

As a side note, no Final Fantasy game is a 'true' Final Fantasy.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Tecmo is the ones with the money. If they tell Team Ninja to make NG2 for PS3 and Xbox 360, they'll do it. It doesn't matter wether or not Itagaki believes in doing exclusive games, because if he did then it's already irrelevant since Tecmo would have had to circumvent him to get NG on PS3 in the first place.

Itagaki isn't a "Lettuce Crisper", alright? He's the reason Tecmo is still a surviving company, since you don't know anything about videogame history. He has a little more weight than your average employee, even as a project/studio lead.

You are so dumb.

 

[Fran]

It's not that big of a deal, oh boy PS3 is getting another port!

We are getting Ninja Gaiden 2.

 

[Avalanche]

What strikes me, is that every time PS3 loses an exclusive, it's a raving disaster for Sony. When it happens the other way around, people are quick to brush it to the side as though it were nothing.

It is a bit of a double standard, particularly when NG is such a flasgship title.

 

[THWIP*]

What strikes me, is that every time PS3 loses an exclusive, it's a raving disaster for Sony. When it happens the other way around, people are quick to brush it to the side as though it were nothing.

It is a bit of a double standard, particularly when NG is such a flasgship title.

THE DIFFERENCE IS, 'SONY' OWNED LAST GEN, AT LEAST IN TERMS SALES #S.
'MS' IS STILL CONSIDERED AN UNDERDOG, AND 'SONY' IS "KING OF THE HILL" ; ANYTHING 'MS' GAINS ON 'SONY' IS A SURPRISE BONUS.....ANYTHING LOST, NOT A REAL SURPRISE. THE OTHER WAY AROUND IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THOUGH; 'SONY' IS EXPECTED TO WIN, SO ANYTHING THEY DO WRONG, OR THAT GOES AGAINST THEM, IS MAGNIFIED.

 

[CM Punk]

What strikes me, is that every time PS3 loses an exclusive, it's a raving disaster for Sony. When it happens the other way around, people are quick to brush it to the side as though it were nothing.

It is a bit of a double standard, particularly when NG is such a flasgship title.

I wasn't aware that Ninja Gaiden was an Xbox360 exclusive. I could have sworn that it only appeared on the Xbox up until now. Oh well.

 

[Fran]

No NG has appeared on 360. YET.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Yeah, Ninja Gaiden is old news now. If 360 got MGS3: Substance, it wouldn't matter either.

 

[Avalanche]

I wasn't aware that Ninja Gaiden was an Xbox360 exclusive. I could have sworn that it only appeared on the Xbox up until now. Oh well.

I never said it was a 360 exclusive did I?

It's a Microsoft exclusive in the way certain games are Sony exclusives. You knew what I meant. You're just being awkward.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

I never said it was a 360 exclusive did I?

It's a Microsoft exclusive in the way certain games are Sony exclusives. You knew what I meant. You're just being awkward.

It's spanning generations though. Read my previous post.

 

[CM Punk]

No, but you compared it to when the loss of Assassin's Creed was a big deal, and asked why this wasn't, and that is your answer. Assassin's Creed was probably the only decent game in the PS3's (the current console) launch line up, and when it was lost, that is obviously big news. This, on the other hand, was simply a big game for a console that is already dead, a game that means little to nothing for the exclusitivity of future games in the series. There's a big, obvious difference there, which is why you see it being reacted too differently. If KotOR or Halo 3 suddenly go multiplatform and no one cares, then it's time to complain. But this is totally different.

 

[Timstuff]

If NGS sells through the roof, Tecmo will want NG2 on PS3 as well.

MGS2: Substance on Xbox didn't ammount to anything because no-one bought it.

Resident Evil 0 for gamecube was time exclusive for Gamecube, and not only didn't it sell as much as Capcom wanted, it was an old game by the time the contract ran out, so Capcom did not feel it was worth pouring the resources into a PS2 version.

With NGS though, it's pretty obvious that Tecmo is eying the PS3 to see how receptive the audience is to Ninja Gaiden. To the poor souls saying "So what, while you're playing NGS, we'll be playing NG2 on the 360!", first of all, NG2 is not yet in developement. Secondly, like I said before, if NGS sells well, Tecmo is probably going to want NG2 to be multi-platform. There's no reason to doubt this unless you want NG2 to be 360 exclusive (and unless you're a fanboy, you wouldn't).

 

[블라스]

Ps3 will get NG2, I'm positive.
Just like the 360 will get DMC4.

Big, non-first party exclusives are over for the most part, companies want money.

 

[CM Punk]

No, it won't. Xbox didn't get MGS3, and PS2 didn't get RE:Zero, and the PS2 didn't get DOA3, DOA Ultimate, DOAX, or Ninja Gaiden, etc etc etc. Team Ninja is doing NG2, not "nameless team within Tecmo", and Team Ninja has been very clear that they are remaining on the Xbox360. At the absolute most, if sales warrant it and if Microsoft does not provide some incentive (which seems unlikely), NG2 will be ported over by another Tecmo team after it's development on the 360 is done and over with, which means you probably won't see it on PS3 for several months or even a year. This game and NG2 are totally different situations. If you are expecting NG2 on PS3 because of this, you are probably going to be disappointed. As for "exclusives are over, companies want money".....did they not want money last time, when the Xbox's percentage of the gaming market was much smaller than what the 360's is expected to be? Several companies, Tecmo included, have shown themselves to be willing to give developers a certain amount of artistic freedom when creating their games. Maximizing profits by releasing to the most markets possible isn't always included in that.

NG2 isn't in development

Yes, it is. It's called Project IMPACT, and was practically confirmed to be underway by Itagaki during an interview with IGN. As for the "the only reason anyone would want NG2 to be exclusive is if they're a fanboy" drivel, no.
Multi-platform development hurts game quality, period, no debate about it. I want NG2 to be the most visually impressive and well designed game around when it releases, just like the last one, and that's not going to happen if the relatively small Team Ninja needs to split it's efforts between two or more consoles, working around the PS3's terrible RAM setup, behind the times GPU, or god awful system bandwidth.

As a gamer, not a fanboy, I want to see NG2 be the best game it can be. All this hippie "all the good games should be available on all the systems, maaan" crap results in is watered down multiplatform releases that aren't as good as they could have been. God awful, generic, middleware laden, watered down "release on everything!" games are pretty plentiful these days. It doesn't take a fanboy to not want to see another.

 

[블라스]

Just tell me DMC4 will end up on the 360, and make me believe it

 

[CM Punk]

DMC4 probably won't end up on the 360, at least not until the PS3 version is done and released. They probably would have announced something about it already if it were being ported, with TGS going on and all

 

[블라스]

Damn it!