Iron Man 2 Sam Rockwell is Justin Hammer

[dark_b]

i dont know the iron man universe. but saying that someone doesnt have good villains is not enough. if there are not good villains you invent a good villain.

 

[The Guard]

The fact is, there's a lot of Justin Hammer in the movie version of Obadiah Stane.

Oby was re-imagined as an older mentor for Tony, instead of an overtly corrupt and power hungry rival. That aspect to his personality was revealed when he was piloting the Iron Monger armor.

Guess what was left for Justin Hammer?

Instead of an old british dude, which at this point would be horrible cliched anyway, he's younger.

Yes, a young successfull, handsome businessman is sooo not cliche.

Everything's cliche. It should be about faithfully realizing the comics, not avoiding cliches that are inherent to a character.

This change was made in the spirit of making the film better. When Favreau does that, it's the real thing.

Overall, I don't really care, as Justin Hammer's not a particularly interesting character in most respects to begin with. I pretty much feel like the movie version of the character will resemble Hammer only slightly, if at all.

I really don't see how moving away from the source material, or in this case, changing something so it's not similar to something else they changed that didn't particularly need to be automatically makes the movie any better. What, because he's not an older man, it's somehow "better"?

I really don't see the point in simply switching Hammer and Obadiah's roles in a sense. Poor planning on the part of the filmmakers.

And I for one, think it'd be kind of cool to have multiple older villains.

 

[lucas8771]

I mean, you guys are acting like his look is going to be a big surprise. I posted pics of Rockwell IN costume ON set like a week ago. He is his own age, has brown hair, and looks comparable to Tony. That is how Hammer will be portrayed. End.

 

[Leto]

I really don't see how moving away from the source material, or in this case, changing something so it's not similar to something else they changed that didn't particularly need to be automatically makes the movie any better. What, because he's not an older man, it's somehow "better"?

It's fresher for Tony to not have to fight another old guy. Further, Tony facing somebody who is like himself before he gained a conscience draws a parallel between them. Classic Iron Man comics are often heavily immersed with anticommunist messages that aren't relative to modern audiences.

What I meant was that it works better for the story they've written that Hammer be middle-aged and American.

I really don't see the point in simply switching Hammer and Obadiah's roles in a sense. Poor planning on the part of the filmmakers.

Marvel didn't even know if Favreau was coming back to direct! So much was dependent on the success of the first film there was a lot left up in the air when it came to the sequel. The original Green-lit script and the final product were written very differently. The Mandarin was piloting the Crimson Dynamo armor!

And I for one, think it'd be kind of cool to have multiple older villains.

That's why I was initially hopeful Rockwell would be undergoing some make-up but again Iron Man's foes aren't really that good. Hammer needed some polish and his age and nationality weren't intrinsic to his character.

 

[Chewy]

Favreau is on Fallon webcamming from the set. It's a Hammer industries building and there is a "HAMMER" logo with a triangle thing over it

 

[cryptic name]

Yes, a young successfull, handsome businessman is sooo not cliche.

Everything's cliche. It should be about faithfully realizing the comics, not avoiding cliches that are inherent to a character.



Overall, I don't really care, as Justin Hammer's not a particularly interesting character in most respects to begin with. I pretty much feel like the movie version of the character will resemble Hammer only slightly, if at all.

I really don't see how moving away from the source material, or in this case, changing something so it's not similar to something else they changed that didn't particularly need to be automatically makes the movie any better. What, because he's not an older man, it's somehow "better"?

I really don't see the point in simply switching Hammer and Obadiah's roles in a sense. Poor planning on the part of the filmmakers.

And I for one, think it'd be kind of cool to have multiple older villains.

you don't see any value in making an a dark mirror version of stark for him to deal with?

 

[Octoberist]

Favreau is on Fallon webcamming from the set. It's a Hammer industries building and there is a "HAMMER" logo with a triangle thing over it

I'm telling, if Sam Rockwell is holding a hammer throughout the entire movie, it will be gold.

"It's Hammer time, Iron Man!"

"You..won't..You can't...touch this!"

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

I'm sure Rockwell will deliver a terrific performance but a part of me wishes Jeremy Irons got the role. Reading "Ultimate Spider-Man" Ultimate Collection vol. 1 and 2, I started to picture Irons as Hammer in my head.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

MY god, it was awesome seeing the Hammer logo last night in the background. Great stuff.

 

[kedrell]

I'm sure Rockwell will deliver a terrific performance but a part of me wishes Jeremy Irons got the role. Reading "Ultimate Spider-Man" Ultimate Collection vol. 1 and 2, I started to picture Irons as Hammer in my head.

From the Ultimate-line? I know Hammer's a Brit in the 616 but isn't he a southerner in the Ultimate universe? At least that's what I interpret when I read him using "Ah" instead of "I".

 

[PumpkinBombxXx]

Hammer may be boring in the comics but i doubt he will be in the movie. I mean look at Sandman, I know SM3 was a let down but Sandman rocked in it and is a total snooze in the comics. However i was wondering and i haven't ben keeping track of the boards but who thinks that Hammer may become Crimson Dynamo. I just dont see whiplash being that much of a threat that even drunk Tony needs Rhodys help. Plus i know that they kinda want to make Hammer a doppelganger of Tony. What do you guys think

 

[kedrell]

^I don't see them going that far. Hammer is a non-super villain and he works best that way, IMO. Just like Falcone or Maroni in Nolan's Batman films. I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that they'll keep him in regular villain-mode, as they should.

 

[Doctor Jones]

That Hammer logo is awesome.

 

[protocida]

Pictures?

 

[bossman550]

I posted pics of Rockwell IN costume ON set like a week ago.

where r they?

 

[The Question]

I really don't see the point in simply switching Hammer and Obadiah's roles in a sense. Poor planning on the part of the filmmakers.

How have they switched their roles, exactly?

 

[bossman550]

well they both r buisness rivals but the 2 r very different

 

[lucas8771]

where r they?

Right here man...
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16828255#post16828255

 

[bossman550]

k thx

 

[Texas Zombie]

sam rockwell is a good actor. I personally think he very funny too.

 

[bossman550]

I've never seen any of Rockwells work or if i have i don't remember.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Have you seen Galaxy Quest?

 

[bossman550]

no is it good? whats it about

 

[Brian Braddock]

If you've ever appreciated the original Star Trek - you'll like it.

 

[bossman550]

alright ill check it out