Script

[Josh Bond]

If anyone has a copy of the script for this, could they please tell me so that I can PM them my email and have them send it to me? I would really like to read it, and I know on imdb people were doing the same thing, but I had to verify my account using a credit card to post (which I don't have) so I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks.

 

[CASk8er87]

Hell id like to get my hands on it as well just to skim through it

 

[Kable24]

I think I still have it. PM me your email address' and I will send it to you when I get home.

 

[citizenpain]

damn you all and your spoiler-ish ways.

 

[juggalo5050]

Thanks to crimsonmist I know have both lexi and Hensleigh's scriptt:

 

[Microchip]

Yeah, Crimsonmist is cool. I can't say the same for Hensleigh's script though. Ugh, what on earth was he doing with the Dirty Harry beginning.

 

[S. Grundy]

Hensleigh script was the first draft and I think it had plenty of good ideas going for it. Yeah the "Go ahead. Make my morning" line was kinda, but the whole rest of the opening of it just kicks the **** out of Lexi Alexander's draft.

The Holy subplot was kinda unnecessary, though I would like to have read Steven S. DeKnights rewrite where he kinda makes that subplot more personal by having the priest be an old childhood friend of Castles. The ending at Wal-Mart was a bit much, but at least Jigsaw didn't go out like a ***** in it.

 

[Microchip]

The Priest subplot was stupid. The guy just out of the blue decides to start murdering criminals one day in confessional? And having the Priest be a childhood friend of Castles? That is way to cutesy. Plus, Jigsaw was super poorly written in it, especially the part where he takes over the gang. It could only stay the same or get better in Lexi's version, which I haven't read.

Also, Lexi's has been re-written by the Iron Man guys, so by now I'm sure that Hensleigh's wouldn't be able to hold a candle to it in any manner, unless you are pathologically unable to awknowledge any aspect of the new movie being good.

 

[S. Grundy]

Yeah, that's why I said "The Holy subplot was kinda unnecessary", and if I remember correctly, that's exactly how the priest starts killing people in Welcome Back, Frank, so blame him for sticking close to Garth. I was just merely interested in seeing if that added anything to it. Making it more personal rather than just some random priest doing it, in the end even if it worked it would have best to leave it out anyway. And I'm not denying Hensleigh script doesn't have problems.

The Iron Man, script was pretty much average. The movie was good because of what RDJ brought to it. Also there were three other writers that worked on it too, not including what ever stuff Faverau cooked up with RDJ. Oh and they were apparently rewritten by Lexi Alexander.

I'm capable of acknowledging the cast, whether they have given good performances is yet to be seen.

 

[juggalo5050]

I actually thought Hensleigh's script was actually pretty good for a first draft.Needed more of Frank though...he really did seem like a background character.I think the scenes were well written,when it came to action,and Frank doing what he does best.....and I like The Massacre at the dons Birthday party,It was ****ing badass,and I would have love to have seen it on screen.The walmart scene was eh,.....And I agree with Grundy,at least Jigsaw didn't go out like a *****.

 

[Rampage]

Hensleigh's draft was ****ing terrible.

 

[Kable24]

I hated Hensleighs draft. I felt Frank was much but a bit player in the whole story. I'll admit, I liked Lexi's draft better. They both have their issues though.

 

[S. Grundy]

I give it a little more leeway, because it was the first thing written. Scripts evolve, and I thought there was enough good to it. The Holy subplot could have been cut out, and the FBI agent stuff needed more work on it. I also agree there should have been more Frank in it, but I think how he was written was pretty great.

I especially liked the part where he gets himself arrested, breaks free in the police station, kills a pedo, and walks out.

 

[hero79]

I liked Hensleighs draft. This was obviously a draft that was getting all the ideas in place for possible later drafts.

Even though I liked Lexi's script to, I wish they would've stayed on course with this. I loved how Castle wasn't always the main focus. In some parts I could see some Taxi Driver influences. The isolation really came through in some parts. But again I'm pretty positive Hensleigh had more up his sleeve. This was definitely more brutal than the Lexi's script, but probably still over the top in some parts.

Especially the fight in Wal-Mart. Which didn't bother because if this script was used that never would've happened in the actual film.

I also loved the THE HOLY subplot. It worked and I liked how they ended it. "God's gonna sit this one out."

Final Verdict: I wish they would've stuck with this because it is better than the script they used.

 

[Microchip]

They polished Lexi's script too, so we can only speculate what a polished Hensleigh Punisher would have looked like, while we'll see what the Iron Man guys did with Lexi's stuff December 5th... when... the Punishment... commences!

 

[CASk8er87]

I hope they polised up Lexi's script a lot. I read thru it the other day, and i can already tell a lot has been done to it. Theres so much dialogue already heard in the trailers that arent in Lexi's script.

 

[S. Grundy]

There's not really much dialouge in the trailers.

This is kinda of a weird complaint, but I thought the Lexi draft humanized Castle a bit too much (not that it's an inheritently bad thing, just reading some scenes where it seems like he's on the verge tears didn't gel with me). There was a more coldness to how Hensleigh's draft wrote Castle that I liked.

 

[hero79]

There's not really much dialouge in the trailers.

This is kinda of a weird complaint, but I thought the Lexi draft humanized Castle a bit too much (not that it's an inheritently bad thing, just reading some scenes where it seems like he's on the verge tears didn't gel with me). There was a more coldness to how Hensleigh's draft wrote Castle that I liked.

Yeah, I liked how he was apathetic in JH's script. Frank Castle the person was dead in this script. To bad they didn't use this because the more I think about it the more I wish it would've been made instead of the one we're getting. I really liked the '04 version despite its flaws. I guess this is as close as we'll see where the character of that story would've gone.

I don't mind the Castle they're doing for this, but he's no where near as cold as the JH's script version. Lexi's script doesn't have that cold edge he should have.

 

[Snikt]

I don't mind the Castle they're doing for this, but he's no where near as cold as the JH's script version. Lexi's script doesn't have that cold edge he should have.

Isn't Castle's coldness going to depend on how Stevenson portrays him. I mean a script is a skeleton to a movie, not the actualy body. I'm sure Stevenson added some coldness to his portrayal of Castle.

 

[hero79]

That's true. I have no idea how performance will come off. Gotta see the movie first.

I was just saying that Frank in the JH's script isn't carrying around the baggage like the Stevenson version is. But that's probably because this is reboot and maybe he hasn't reached that cold part of himself yet.

Plus Lexi's script has a been more going on dramatic wise. I don't want to spoil it but those who have read it know what I'm talking about.

 

[S. Grundy]

That's true. I have no idea how performance will come off. Gotta see the movie first.

I was just saying that Frank in the JH's script isn't carrying around the baggage like the Stevenson version is. But that's probably because this is reboot and maybe he hasn't reached that cold part of himself yet.

Plus Lexi's script has a been more going on dramatic wise. I don't want to spoil it but those who have read it know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, he didn't have baggage at all, he wasn't out to save anyone.

 

[KT7777]

I hated Hensleighs draft. I felt Frank was much but a bit player in the whole story. I'll admit, I liked Lexi's draft better. They both have their issues though.

I agree with you.Hensleighs's draft didn't have enough Frank or Jigsaw to me.It has some ok moments,but other then that the draft was just plain bad.

 

[KT7777]

That's true. I have no idea how performance will come off. Gotta see the movie first.

I was just saying that Frank in the JH's script isn't carrying around the baggage like the Stevenson version is. But that's probably because this is reboot and maybe he hasn't reached that cold part of himself yet.

Plus Lexi's script has a been more going on dramatic wise. I don't want to spoil it but those who have read it know what I'm talking about.

Well he only been The Punisher for 6 years,he's reaching that cold hearted stage.I can see a little bit of it in Lexis's draft,if there's sequels to the film.We would see a much colder Frank ,because the older he gets the colder he gets.Just like in The Punisher MAX

 

[S. Grundy]

It was the same in Hensleigh's script, he had been going around killing people for years, the difference is he was cold hearted and wasn't written to be on the verge of tears in some scenes.

 

[KT7777]

It was the same in Hensleigh's script, he had been going around killing people for years, the difference is he was cold hearted and wasn't written to be on the verge of tears in some scenes.

He was barely in it and I thought Hensleigh's draft really missed the point.I don't think Franks cries in this,but if he does the man lost his wife and two kids, give him a break.He is not the old heartless killer from the MAX just yet,this only year 6 and he still has some emotions left in him.That's why the movie is called WarZone,Frank is at war with crime and his self.Soon those feelings will be gone.Plus didn't Frank cry or trying to cry at the end of the 04 film