Should Artifacts from Ship Wrecks etc. Be taken away from there resting Place?

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Well,I was browing around the internet and I was DISGUSTED to see this
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Pair of child boots recovered from the wreck of the Titanic

i'm like, what?!?!? that's someones grave marker, there ONLY grave Marker. and you just take it away? If your going to take things away from a wreck (Bismark, Titanic etc.) it should ONLY be like, Coal, Metal Debris and such. Never should take away someone's grave Marker.

And if you browse around the gallery i posted up top, You see lots of stuff are put up for auction. Which gets me aswell.

So do you agree? Should Wrecks such as the Titanic be left to OBSERVE only? Not to take things away?

here's Something, in 91, i think it was anyway. A ship tried to get the Crows Nest Bell from the Titanic. They got it, But the Crows nest Collpased. and is no more.
 
well, i think its better to have the stuff so everyone can see it, not just lying 2 miles below the water where it will disintegrate.
 
True. I'm kinda ok with it put in museums, or maybe the childs shoes bee returned to the kids family if possible
 
True. I'm kinda ok with it put in museums, or maybe the childs shoes bee returned to the kids family if possible
i think they should be stored in mueseums before given to the family, because they can be stored properly there.

i may be heartless.
 
In the case of the titanic, I think it's silly to waste money on recovering things like children's shoes and stamped peices of metal. I know, I know, people will pay $$$ for it... but I also think that's stupid. Why do you need to have the cup that was on the titanic, the glasses that Jackie K wore, the gum that Brittany Spears wore- but I digress.
 
Psycho Symbiote continues to disgrace english teachers everywhere.
 
In the case of the titanic, I think it's silly to waste money on recovering things like children's shoes and stamped peices of metal. I know, I know, people will pay $$$ for it... but I also think that's stupid. Why do you need to have the cup that was on the titanic, the glasses that Jackie K wore, the gum that Brittany Spears wore- but I digress.


britney spears WORE gum??!

***** is crazy.
 
how are people gonna see the grave markers if their in a place no one can go..?lol
and eventually the water will eat itup
 
I say yes, because it's part of human history.
It's not like some grave robber is coming and stealing them.
They being used to display a part of history, not to make money (except for the museums). ;)
 
grave markers are a superstition that have well past their time.
 
Psycho...Still tied up on Titanic stuff?
I used to check out stuff about the Titanic too...a while back
 
grave markers are a superstition that have well past their time.

How is this even vaguely a valid idea? The entire point of them is for them is as a tribute to people who died, until the living completely want to forget and disregard the dead they will be serving their use.

Psycho Symbiote said:
True. I'm kinda ok with it put in museums, or maybe the childs shoes bee returned to the kids family if possible

The problem with that is you are somehow going to figure out who of the thousands of people on the ship the shoes (that have been sitting on the bottom of the ocean since 1912) belonged to, and then you have to track down this person who died as a a child's existing family, which at best will be his great great nephew or something.


As has already been said, the ship (any ship) and its contents are only going to crumble and get buried beneath the sea if left alone.
 
Yes,but only in a way that it would honor those who passed. I can imagine the souls of those who have gone,would want such accidents not to happen again. To spare anyone else loosing their families.
 
A museum would be perfect for it. But a proper museum like the Smithsonian or whatever museums New York has or elsewhere on the East Coast, not "Uncle Bob's Shack o' Titanic artifakts and other such stuff" off of Route 19 left of the giant cow with directions painted on the roofs of barns and grain silos in a 900 mile radius
 
Wow, those boots are in really great shape. I don't think it's disrespectful if they're displayed for historical purposes. I all of a sudden want those boots though, I'd love to own a piece of history.
 
Why not? No one else is using them. This is also why people should be burned, naked, after death, and then the ashes scattered. There's no reason to waste anything on some dead idiot.
 
Well,I was browing around the internet and I was DISGUSTED to see this
LINK

155.jpg

Pair of child boots recovered from the wreck of the Titanic

i'm like, what?!?!? that's someones grave marker, there ONLY grave Marker. and you just take it away? If your going to take things away from a wreck (Bismark, Titanic etc.) it should ONLY be like, Coal, Metal Debris and such. Never should take away someone's grave Marker.

And if you browse around the gallery i posted up top, You see lots of stuff are put up for auction. Which gets me aswell.

So do you agree? Should Wrecks such as the Titanic be left to OBSERVE only? Not to take things away?

here's Something, in 91, i think it was anyway. A ship tried to get the Crows Nest Bell from the Titanic. They got it, But the Crows nest Collpased. and is no more.

I don't see much difference between this and uncovering some tomb. So you are either against all archeology, or bizarrely mad at recent things being disturbed.
 
I think it's a good thing. Those people will be remembered better in a museum Then at the bottom of the ocean where they will be forgotten.
 
Something to take into consideration about this whole thing. It's not like they're taking shoes off of people's dead bodies or something. They were just laying around the ship. I think people's everyday possessions have gained some perception as memorials because of some exceptional circumstances where they have importance, like in the Holocaust. A pile of shoes have impact, because it represents how dehumanizing their treatment was by doing things like take their clothes away.

Here, these were just things the people who died happened to own. They are of some interest in a museum if you want to reconstruct the kind of lives people led, but to use them as personal memorials is a bit silly.

Also, many if not most people have grave markers anyway. It's not like these were unknown lost souls on the ship. Their relatives or friends or coworkers or whoever knew they were on the voyage and probably gave them some kind of funeral or rememberence when they weren't among the survivors.
 
The only Titanic artifact I'm interested in is the nude Kate Winslet sketch.:o
 

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