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ah leave the beenie man alone....

yagga ya yagga ya yagga ya....
 
Religious fundamentalists
 
Noon said:
Religious fundamentalists
Anyone who truly believes in Jesus would never say it's okay to lynch gays. Any christian who says this is living a lie.
 
squeekness said:
Anyone who truly believes in Jesus would never say it's okay to lynch gays. Any christian who says this is living a lie.

That's where the fundamental comes in
 
Noon said:
That's where the fundamental comes in
There's nothing okay or fundamental about wishing anyone dead. :(
 
squeekness said:
Anyone who truly believes in Jesus would never say it's okay to lynch gays. Any christian who says this is living a lie.

Christianity has moved beyond Jesus. Now it's all about hate and thinly-veiled white supremacy.
 
squeekness said:
There's nothing okay or fundamental about wishing anyone dead. :(

Yes, but fundamentalists are usually the ones who are so devoted to their own religion they refuse to accept other peoples life veiws
 
They put the mental in fundamental!


I've been wanting to use that one for ages
 
TheSumOfGod said:
Christianity has moved beyond Jesus. Now it's all about hate and thinly-veiled white supremacy.
Not all of it. You can't let a few nut heads ruin it the same way you can't let a few Islamic nutballs prove that Islam is bad.
 
Actually, I think that all modern religions should be completely and utterly destroyed. But that's just me.
 
TheSumOfGod said:
Actually, I think that all modern religions should be completely and utterly destroyed. But that's just me.
I think perhaps some renewal is in order, but not the obliteration of them. They have done more good than bad, it's just that the mistakes are the one thing that folks hear the most about.
 
I think they should all be merged. They're all basically the same religion anyway
 
they could worship Jesallahovahshnu :o
 
:eek: I think you just discovered Gods true name!
 
squeekness said:
I think perhaps some renewal is in order, but not the obliteration of them. They have done more good than bad, it's just that the mistakes are the one thing that folks hear the most about.

The Good: Helped some people on a personal, spiritual basis.

The Bad: MILLIONS of innocent people being raped, tortured and murdered during the crusades and inquisitions, entire cultures being exterminated or converted by force...
 
TheSumOfGod said:
The Good: Helped some people on a personal, spiritual basis.

The Bad: MILLIONS of innocent people being raped, tortured and murdered during the crusades and inquisitions, entire cultures being exterminated or converted by force...
It's so much more than just that. Christians were the first to have organized hospitals and charity drives for those in need. It's documented in Corinthians, only a few years after Jesus died. Christians do more for health care now in the poorest of countries than anyone else. Yeah, they preach along the way, but they also found schools and hospitals and build wells. :)
 
squeekness said:
It's so much more than just that. Christians were the first to have organized hospitals and charity drives for those in need. It's documented in Corinthians, only a few years after Jesus died. Christians do more for health care now in the poorest of countries than anyone else. Yeah, they preach along the way, but they also found schools and hospitals and build wells. :)

But now that we have those things (that would probably have existed anyway in another form), we don't need religion and religious people anymore. In fact, they're becoming more and more of a nuisance.
 
TheSumOfGod said:
But now that we have those things (that would probably have existed anyway in another form), we don't need religion and religious people anymore. In fact, they're becoming more and more of a nuisance.
Ah, but this I don't believe. Chrsitianity, when properly applied, causes folks to think about others more than themselves. That desire is what changed peoeple's way of thinking and that is what jump started the concept of organized helath care for the poor. Some of theseotehr religions, like Scientology, that have folks thinking mroe inward than outward, don't have the same effect. Scientologists don't have outreach programs to help the needy.

The bad things you see are the result of human corruption. Those who have not fully embraced the truth are the ones who are making the mess. It's the same no matter where you go. After 9/11 you had legitimate charities soliciting funds for the needy while alongside them were jerks stealing money from those who couldn't tell they weren't legitimate. Don't confuse human frailty for God messingup. The bad stuff comes from us, not God.
 
November Rain said:
ah leave the beenie man alone....

yagga ya yagga ya yagga ya....

It is Buju Banton, not Beenie Man. Here is the story. When Buju Banton was a very young artist one of his first songs was "Boom Bye Bye". The lyrics in this song are "boom bye bye in a batty boy's head" - A "Batty Boy" is a derogatory term for a gay man in Jamaican patios. So, many people believe that he was advocating shooting gay people.

When Buju first came out as a singer, he was strictly a dance-hall artist. His songs were that of a kid in this genre. As he progressed as a singer, he became a Rastafarian. So, yes, he once sang "Boom Bye Bye". However, ever since his ground-breaking album "Til Shiloh" when he became Rasta, not only has Buju's lyrics and messages changed, but his sound has switched from strictly dance-hall to more of a roots sound.

Buju has repeatedly apologized for his early behavior as misguided young man, but groups for Gay rights have never forgiven him because he still plays "Boom Bye Bye" occasionally at concerts. Now, I can understand how these groups can be mad that Buju still plays the song, but they do not understand the culture of Jamaica at all.

Personally, I have very mixed feelings about the whole scenario. When I first heard "Til Shiloh" in the mid-90s when it came out, I was blown away by the album. Buju became an instant favorite of mine. I then discovered his early dance-hall work and it was great for that type of reggae. When I learned what "Boom Bye Bye" was about, I was torn. The song (not the lyrics) is great. So, Buju usually simply throws in a tiny bit of the song at shows. I hate the Buju has this song in his past, because his stuff since he became Rasta is really great and really loving.

Basically, this is a case of Buju writing a song in his misguided youth that he has never been forgiven for writing. It has been 15+ years since he wrote that song and none of his songs have been close to that type of a song. In fact, since Buju became Rasta, all of his songs have been about love, understanding and peace. Check out some Buju classic albums like "Til Shiloh", "Inna Heights" and "Unchained Spirit" and you will see that the misguided kid who once wrote "Boom Bye Bye" has grown into a man who no longer harbors the pain and anger of a young man who was raised in a very poor, very volatile area of Jamaica.

Tough call on Buju because he has grown as an artist and person where Beenie Man has not.
 

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