The Dark Knight Sionis in TDK? (this is not news, but speculation)

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I put the warning in the thread title so people don't come in here with the wrong idea that I have a "scoop" per se. I've been thinking about this reported Eastern European mobster, in his 40s/50s, according to LatinoReview. As many good mobster characters as there are in the comics, why would Nolan write in a new one?

Answer: He didn't. I think its possible(though pure speculation on my part, as I said) that LR got things mixed up, and they were actually describing two characters. Both are mobsters, but only one of them is in his 40s or 50s(most likely Maroni) and the other is Roman Sionis.

Here is why I think so.

"Šionas - "Country of origin IS Lithuania. Spellings on marriage certificate from 1905 in the United States show both Sionas and Sionis. We were told years ago that it might mean 'skirt'."

link: http://www.geocities.com/[email protected]/zemaitis6.htm#S

Sionis is Lithuanian, which is in Eastern Europe. How bout that huh? I never even knew whether or not Sionis is a real last name until now, I just decided to do a search for the ethnic origins of it on a hunch.

Just call me Poirot. :D

What do you guys think?
 
Oh, I'd also like to point out the rumored storyline for the movie BOF posted awhile back had Sionis in cahoots with Maroni, so that could be a possible explanation as to why LR could have confused the two characters as one.
 
I think its not a coincidence that they never referred to Falcone as "The Roman", probably because they intended to use Black Mask at some point. Thanks for putting "This is not news" in the thread title as well.
 
I can see it... if its him does this mean no Maroni or Thorne? LR only mentioned one mobster
 
Randomnely pops in to post her Black Mask manip:

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Miller, dammit!
 
lol and rosario too lol perfect cast right there!
 
BIG news:

Over on the BOF forums somebody pointed out that Black Mask has an assistant in the comics who is an Asian accountant. I don't know whether or not thats true for sure. Anybody?

If it is, then I think this mystery is pretty much solved. The Eastern European character is Sionis.
 
BIG news:

Over on the BOF forums somebody pointed out that Black Mask has an assistant in the comics who is an Asian accountant. I don't know whether or not thats true for sure. Anybody?

If it is, then I think this mystery is pretty much solved. The Eastern European character is Sionis.

That would rule Wenty out. :csad:

But I love the suggestion of Peter Stormare I saw there. :up:
 
That would rule Wenty out. :csad:

But I love the suggestion of Peter Stormare I saw there. :up:

I thought Sionis was supposed to be Bruce's age.

Maybe the Eastern European guy is Maroni, and Sionis is also in there. Maybe Sionis has a bigger role than Maroni, so they'll be going about casting it another way. I mean, LR only listed the three roles, so we shouldn't assume that just because something isn't there doesn't mean it's not in the movie. I didn't see anything that matches Dent's description.
 
I thought Sionis was supposed to be Bruce's age.

Maybe the Eastern European guy is Maroni, and Sionis is also in there. Maybe Sionis has a bigger role than Maroni, so they'll be going about casting it another way. I mean, LR only listed the three roles, so we shouldn't assume that just because something isn't there doesn't mean it's not in the movie. I didn't see anything that matches Dent's description.

Aha, good point. I always assumed they were the same age too. But I always assumed Maroni was, well, Italian.

Wentworth all the way! :up:
 
Aha, good point. I always assumed they were the same age too. But I always assumed Maroni was, well, Italian.

Wentworth all the way! :up:

Wait isnt Maroni Italian? Pretty sure he is.

Hey Wentworth might look the of the rich playboy like Bruce but havent seen much of this work.
 
BIG news:

Over on the BOF forums somebody pointed out that Black Mask has an assistant in the comics who is an Asian accountant. I don't know whether or not thats true for sure. Anybody?

If it is, then I think this mystery is pretty much solved. The Eastern European character is Sionis.

this is true. the asian accountant is in the red hood saga. pretty recent comics.
would be nice if he was to be included.
 
Wait isnt Maroni Italian? Pretty sure he is.

Hey Wentworth might look the of the rich playboy like Bruce but havent seen much of this work.

As a Prison Break fanatic, I must say I think he does good work. Especially in the new season, where his character has been less taciturn.
 
Wow, if Black Mask really is in this movie..that's awesome.

I really like the way this series is shaping up. I mean sure, you gotta have the Joker and Two-Face; but it's great that Nolan is tapping unused (and sometimes underrated) rogues like Scarecrow, Ra's, and hopefully Sionis.

Begins proved you could have a great Batman movie without flashy, "big name villains" in starring roles. I know the Joker is going to be a juggernaut, but it just proves that Batman is the character people really wanna see. :woot:
 
this is true. the asian accountant is in the red hood saga. pretty recent comics.
would be nice if he was to be included.

It's gotta be, if the casting report is to be believed.

Where else would specifically an "Asian Accountant" be necessary?
 
Jett over at BOF has heard some scuttlebutt that the 'Eastern European Heavy' is, in fact Roman Sionas, and the 'Asian Accountant' could be a nod to the 'Under the Hood' storyline in which Black Mask had an asian assistant.


Looks like more than the Joker and gangsters in this film.
 

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