Superman Returns Spacey.....is he camp of hamming it up???

[tabLengle]

It's a question I need to ask good sirs of SHH. I saw the X3 trailer, and I had mixed feelings. One moment he is acting totally bad boy in the NOW FLY scene but then he is dancing around saying things like Kryyyppptttooniiitteee and WRONG. I don't know what to think. Help me good fellows.

 

[The Kid]

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

There is also a thread on this..

can you guess where this is going.

 

[DorkyFresh]

just because Lex goes around dancing and spouting lines like "WRONG!" and "BRING IT ON!" doesn't mean he's hamming it up...

...a lot of people don't understand that those times where he's spouting goofy lines like that are lines that are either meant to piss Superman or Lois Lane off. not to mention, the execution of those lines show how egotistical he is. to think he has the nerve to joke around in front of the most powerful being in the world while Supes is looking at him pissed off is a statement that no one, other than Lex, can make!

yes he's acting goofy when he says 'kkrrrryptonite!' but that's the genius of Lex...he's able to have a sick sense of humor even in the darkest times. it's not that he's corny....it's that he's sick in the head enough to be able to joke around like that in a dark and twisted situation....that HE created, none the less!

i hope you can understand that.

 

[NotFadeAway]

I really wish threads like this would quit popping up, where is C.Lee at hmmm....after he closed my thread on Kitty for no good reason, this needs shut down.

 

[tabLengle]

Just asking a question, jeez louise.

 

[Cinemaman]

just because Lex goes around dancing and spouting lines like "WRONG!" and "BRING IT ON!" doesn't mean he's hamming it up...

...a lot of people don't understand that those times where he's spouting goofy lines like that are lines that are either meant to piss Superman or Lois Lane off. not to mention, the execution of those lines show how egotistical he is. to think he has the nerve to joke around in front of the most powerful being in the world while Supes is looking at him pissed off is a statement that no one, other than Lex, can make!

yes he's acting goofy when he says 'kkrrrryptonite!' but that's the genius of Lex...he's able to have a sick sense of humor even in the darkest times. it's not that he's corny....it's that he's sick in the head enough to be able to joke around like that in a dark and twisted situation.

i hope you can understand that.

You are absolutely right.

 

[Jakomus]

What you need to understand is that Lex is a person. People crack jokes. He's not a poorly written character that is cserious all the time because he is "badass". He is a person with a sense of humour.

 

[NotFadeAway]

We have threads to discuss this in....do your job mods.

 

[Steelsheen]

Spacey can be given some of the lamest lines ever written in Hollywood and make an Oscar worthy perormance of it.

how? cuz he's the SPACEMAN, bich

 

[The Kid]

absolutely true. Even his doctor evil out-did Mike Myer's in evilness.

He does excellent impressions too.

 

[Cinemaman]

Spacey can be given some of the lamest lines ever written in Hollywood and make an Oscar worthy perormance of it.

how? cuz he's the SPACEMAN, bich

LOL

But honestly, he is really great actor and my favorite also

 

[PunisherPoster]

I'm surprised he isn't playing this straight, since his could've easily been regarded as the definitive interpretation.

 

[DorkyFresh]

I'm surprised he isn't playing this straight

how do you know he's not? we've seen less than 5 minutes TOTAL of footage of Lex out of an almost 3 hour movie....

 

[Jakomus]

I'm surprised he isn't playing this straight, since his could've easily been regarded as the definitive interpretation.

He is playing it straight.

 

[Jakomus]

how do you know he's not? we've seen less than 5 minutes TOTAL of footage of Lex out of an almost 3 hour movie....

Here's what I think. Comic fans are insecure of their love for comic books so they think everything in a comic book movie should be 100% serious so non-comic fans wouldn't make fun.

 

[DorkyFresh]

here's what i think...



...comic fans are too quick to judge the details out of context instead of waiting until the finished product.

it's very much like drawing.....i can't TELL you how many times i drew something and someone caught me in the MIDDLE of drawing it and said something like "you're not gonna draw the cape?"

umm....i haven't GOTTEN THERE YET, ya dimwit!!! i think the same applies for a LOT (and i do mean a LOT) of fanboys...

 

[PunisherPoster]

He's clearly not playing it as straight as, say, Clancy Brown did in the animated series. If he were, threads like this would not exist.

The general consensus seems to be that he isn't playing it completely straight, which is what I was referring to. If he had evoked Brown instead of Hackman, I think most objective fans would be saying, "Wow, Spacey might end up being the definitive Luthor." (Personally, this is what I expected until I saw the trailers.)

I know everyone here has nothing but praise for the film, but if you go to neutral sites, the reaction is decidedly mixed.

 

[Jakomus]

here's what i think...



...comic fans are too quick to judge the details out of context instead of waiting until the finished product.

it's very much like drawing.....i can't TELL you how many times i drew something and someone caught me in the MIDDLE of drawing it and said something like "you're not gonna draw the cape?"

umm....i haven't GOTTEN THERE YET, ya dimwit!!! i think the same applies for a LOT (and i do mean a LOT) of fanboys...

I feel your pain. Sometimes when i'm drawing people are like "You forget that" even though i'm currently drawing a completely different part of the object. Give me a chance!

 

[DorkyFresh]

If he had evoked Brown instead of Hackman

please read my first post on this thread...he's not playing it like Hackman. thank you.

 

[PunisherPoster]

Here's what I think. Comic fans are insecure of their love for comic books so they think everything in a comic book movie should be 100% serious so non-comic fans wouldn't make fun.

I agree completely. I think comicbook films are starting to get far too pretentious (ie. Batman Begins). For the record, I'm happy that Singer has decided to treat the Donner films as canon, since those are the reason I became a Superman fan.

I'm just surprised Spacey is being presented to us as doing quite a bit of camp in the trailers. He may well end up being serious for the rest of the film, but the early footage is already proving damning to his fan reception.

 

[Jakomus]

He's clearly not playing it as straight as, say, Clancy Brown did in the animated series. If he were, threads like this would not exist.

The general consensus seems to be that he isn't playing it completely straight, which is what I was referring to. If he had evoked Brown instead of Hackman, I think most objective fans would be saying, "Wow, Spacey might end up being the definitive Luthor." (Personally, this is what I expected until I saw the trailers.)

I know everyone here has nothing but praise for the film, but if you go to neutral sites, the reaction is decidedly mixed.

Sorry, but TAS Luthor is hardly definitive.

The definitive Luthor is whatever your favourite is. So I guess TAS Luthor is YOUR definitive Luthor, but it's not everyone's. A mixture of the Luthor in Red Son and Luthor in Superman: The Movie is my definitive Luthor, and I think that's what we're getting in Superman Returns.

 

[Jakomus]

I'm just surprised Spacey is being presented to us as doing quite a bit of camp in the trailers. He may well end up being serious for the rest of the film, but the early footage is already proving damning to his fan reception.

Lex isn't acting camp in the trailers. He's just having a good time. He would be camp if he was wearing sunglasses, a hawaiian shirt, sipping a ice tea whilst sitting in a deckchair quipping "How do you like my beach-side resort, Supes?". Violently shouting "WRONG!" at a small child isn't.

 

[PunisherPoster]

Lex isn't acting camp in the trailers.

Spacey is being regarded as acting campy in the trailers, which is really the bottom line. It doesn't matter how you spin the performance, it's still the reaction a lot of people are having.

I'm hopeful that someone's just not good at cutting trailers, and Singer's film will blow us all away. But I can admit that the film is not getting the type of reaction I anticipated.

 

[Newb]

I was kind of worried as well about Spacey's Luthor till that last trailer. Something about the way he told the chick to wait for it. Oh and that line about what gods do with their power, very modern motivation for Luthor's hate.

Anybody read 52 #3? The one thing I love about post-crisis Luthor most of all is his Teflon Juan attitude. That he can't be touched by legal means because he always covers his ass. I hope Spacey's Luthor isn't a wanted man, I think he beat the charges cause of Superman's absence right?