No Way Home Spider-Man: No Way Home Original Discussion Thread

[venom892]

Those are still the two best suits in live action. I liked the homecoming suit, but it cannot compete.

 

[kguillou]

A little off topic from Spider-Verse speculation but how would anyone feel about maybe making the new suit more similar to the Raimi and ASM2 suits?

While I think the MCU suits have been faithful so far they feel more "cartoonish" to me than a translation to film should be.

They could use the raised webbing and material for example but keep the eyes, Spider-Logo and colour pattern from previous MCU appearances.

Funny, in the upcoming 2022 Flash movie Barry Allen will take inspiration from Grant Gustin's version for his new suit after their meeting. Maybe Tom Holland could do the same after meeting Maguire and Garfield?

You know its funny, I dunno if its just the way its shot or the lack of raised webbing like on Maguire and Garfield’s suits but Holland’s costumes almost always looks cgi to me, like Holland is not really wearing it and hes a cartoon character mostly. Dont get me wrong, i like the actual designs of Holland’s costumes but Maguire and Garfield’s suits look more...”tangible” if that makes sense. Like you could tell its they’re real costumes and someone’s underneath them.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I can totally see the Venom films taking place in the TASM universe

The lines are bit blurred when it comes to Sonys spin off movies because that would mean Morpheus is in the MCU since you see Vulture in the trailer. but then why wouldn't Venom be in the same universe as Morpheus? Why would Sony place Venom in a different universe but not Morpheus?

 

[Schlosser85]

You know its funny, I dunno if its just the way its shot or the lack of raised webbing like on Maguire and Garfield’s suits but Holland’s costumes almost always looks cgi to me, like Holland is not really wearing it and hes a cartoon character mostly. Dont get me wrong, i like the actual designs of Holland’s costumes but Maguire and Garfield’s suits look more...”tangible” if that makes sense. Like you could tell its they’re real costumes and someone’s underneath them.

They definitely overly CGI Holland's Spider-Man. Which is a bit of a shame, as Holland is actually acrobatic and athletic and could probably do a lot of his own stunts.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Holland suits almost looks like a CGI mapped suit. like it was made for the CGI to help boost its look.

 

[Ninjablade]

They definitely put an overlay of CG over it unless he's wearing it without the mask, and I think it flattens the suit out too much. There's very little definition. Just compare it to the CG models of his homemade suit or the stealth suit which don't share that same issue.

I think if they either raised or ingrained the webbing on the suit, it would probably look much better. Also darken it up because there's quite a few scenes where it's hardly noticeable on the material which doesn't help. I think the actual suit materials on the new red and black suit looks really good on camera.

 

[GwensNeckBrace]

God, yes please to the raised webbing! He currently looks like an X-Box 360 character.

 

[Airwings]

It's been rumoured he would be their Nick Fury. I took that to mean there would still be a younger Batman running around being a hero while Keaton played the mentor role.

From what I understand, Keaton is going to be Batman, not Bruce, as the mentor.

 

[Airwings]

Regarding the suit, Andrew's and Tobey's was better. They both felt more real and "organic", and more detailed, than Holland's.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The holland suit is really boring. The CGI over lay is so distracting and I'll never understand why it was used. its similar to how Iron Mans suit looks really bad with CGI now as well as opposed to how gorgeous it was during phase 1. The Raimi suit is still the best by far for me.

 

[Airwings]

The short answer to your question is , it's possible. As a fan ,I'm done saying " This absolutely won't or can't happen!", especially now. Whether its probable ,remains to be seen.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Cruise rumor is true and that he has a brief cameo as another Tony Stark.

I could also see Nic Cage having a cameo as Superman in Flashpoint. I doubt he'd turn down that opportunity if offered.

I think that the Crisis CW producers did ask Cage to appear as Superman before, so it's at least in the realm of possibility .

I think DiCaprio appearing as Spiderman would be a real long shot, but it would be pretty cool nevertheless if it happened.

Thanks mate

What do you think about the chances for Nicholas Hammond and Shinji Todō to do brief cameos in SM3 or Dr Strange2?
What do everybody else here think about that? Or DiCaprio as Cameron's Spider-Man?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I hate the CG overlay on the Holland suit. For me, the Raimi suit is THE Spider-Man suit.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

I never understood why they became so reliant on using CGI for his suits when they easily could have been done practically. Both Maguire and Garfield had awesome looking suits, especially the suit Garfield wore in TASM2 which is probably the best thing about that movie honestly.

That thing at least looked like it jumped right off a comic-book page.

 

[GuestStar2004]

From what I understand, Keaton is going to be Batman, not Bruce, as the mentor.

I have a hard time believing Keaton will want a regular role as Batman in the DCEU. let alone wearing that suit at nearly 70 years old.

 

[Arachnerd]

Well, concept art for Flashpoint shown at DC Fandome shows him wearing the '89 suit, so you're wrong on that front.

 

[Airwings]

I have a hard time believing Keaton will want a regular role as Batman in the DCEU. let alone wearing that suit at nearly 70 years old.

Stuntman for the action scenes, Keaton when Bats is just making cool poses

 

[Arachnerd]

Yep. Not unusual for this type of thing.

Anyway, coming back to SM3. Is it possible that, even if it's not Spider-Verse, it might end with Tom Holland meeting Maguire and Garfield at the end and mutter "what the f***"?

I feel like I've asked this before on here, but I'm not sure.

 

[Airwings]

Yep. Not unusual for this type of thing.

Anyway, coming back to SM3. Is it possible that, even if it's not Spider-Verse, it might end with Tom Holland meeting Maguire and Garfield at the end and mutter "what the f***"?

I feel like I've asked this before on here, but I'm not sure.

Only if it's not the very last line, then the screen fades to black... THE END.

It has to be followed by some action.

 

[Spidey_62]

I hate how barely visible the webbing on the MCU suits are, especially from further away there's times when the webs do not stand out at all. Raised webbing ftw. Raised webbing at least has another layer of dimensionality to it for film, and that's important to consider.

Also, the physical suits they make and shoot with look totally good and tangible but for some reason they always CGI over him and it just sucks the life out of it.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Stuntman for the action scenes, Keaton when Bats is just making cool poses

I imagine the Bat-suit isn't comfortable to wear. let alone at 70 still suiting up beyond one movie

Well, concept art for Flashpoint shown at DC Fandome shows him wearing the '89 suit, so you're wrong on that front.

For one film. but being a regular feature?

There was that rumor they were planning a Batman beyond style scenario with him. but with a batwomen. who knows.

 

[Arachnerd]

Only if it's not the very last line, then the screen fades to black... THE END.

It has to be followed by some action.

It's pretty much how the previous two films ended (with Peter saying the line), so it wouldn't be out of the norm.

 

[Venom 1988]

Yep. Not unusual for this type of thing.

Anyway, coming back to SM3. Is it possible that, even if it's not Spider-Verse, it might end with Tom Holland meeting Maguire and Garfield at the end and mutter "what the f***"?

I feel like I've asked this before on here, but I'm not sure.

Possibly. I can definitely see this happening. My own speculation of Strange's involvement, I thought it would be neat that there way to do away with the unmasking was not using magic but rather having an alternate Spider-Man pop up and saving people (like you see it reported on a TV in the background), to show Peter and Spidey are in 2 different places at once. Like it would be this small thread popping in and out of the movie. Then at the very end you see who this alternate Spider-Man really is. If this movie had to involve the multiverse, I wouldn't mind this route.

 

[The Infernal]

From what I understand, Keaton is going to be Batman, not Bruce, as the mentor.

I wasn't really differentiating between Bruce and Batman. My point was that there would still be another person who is the main Batman of the DCCU. Whether Keaton suits up or not he is still Batman.

That said, now that it's brought up, I don't see Keaton in suit most of the time. He may suit up for some action, but being a mentor likely means that's not often and Keaton improbably at an age where he probably wants to be in a rubber suit as little as possible.

 

[Nardz937]

I don't care for the FFH or Iron Spider suits. I do like the homemade suit a ton, it's probably one of my favorite Spidey beta suits. And the CW/HC Stark suit is nice just a shame they drench it in CG.

 

[Airwings]

I wasn't really differentiating between Bruce and Batman. My point was that there would still be another person who is the main Batman of the DCCU. Whether Keaton suits up or not he is still Batman.

If he's Batman, it means suiting up as the mentor.
If's he's only Bruce, he would never leave the cave at all. He would just sit by the computer in a dress jacket (when he's not being a business man).
Isn't that a difference?

And from what I've read, it's claimed Keaton would be THE Batman of the DCU. Meaning no other main Batman.

It's pretty much how the previous two films ended (with Peter saying the line), so it wouldn't be out of the norm.

So Tobey and Andrew should be signed on for only this, only appearing for five seconds?
Not doing any action parts at all? Just be standing there so that Holland can utter his line?