Comics Spider-man Reign

You would think KA would realise how clichéd this idea actually is considering the amount of s-hit that has happened to PP/SM, hence it is also statistically unrealistic.

First. Yeah. You're a ranting fan boy. You contradicted yourself in the sense that you praised DKSA for being "Different" when you're sitting there complaining at how many things differ from a "true" spider-man story. But anyhoots....


You're basically saying that whats been happening to Peter is statistically unrealistic? Are you saying NO ONE is able to have such a bad life? Please tell me this is not the intent of your unrealistic comment. :dry:
 
well, i like it. of cours ei do, i also love ultimate so i love new stuff...
 
I just love how of all the things ina comic series where a man dresses in spandex and flies from webbing and crawls walls to fight the same few dozen villains again and again over 40 years wihtout aging and without any of them staying incarcerated....THIS IS HWAT IT IS UNREALISTIC.

Riiiight.
 
I just love how of all the things ina comic series where a man dresses in spandex and flies from webbing and crawls walls to fight the same few dozen villains again and again over 40 years wihtout aging and without any of them staying incarcerated....THIS IS HWAT IT IS UNREALISTIC.

Riiiight.
That too.
 
First. Yeah. You're a ranting fan boy.

First off don’t call me a ranting fan boy, its not nice.
Second so what if I am?, how is that any different from anyone else here who expresses an opinion.

You contradicted yourself in the sense that you praised DKSA for being "Different" when you're sitting there complaining at how many things differ from a "true" spider-man story. But anyhoots....

Nice try but no cigar.

I did not contradict myself.
I vaguely praised DKSA by saying I liked it because it was different to the first one.
DKR redefined so much and was such a landmark work that to write the follow up in the same style would have been like FM shooting himself in the foot. He had to do DKSA from a different angle.
Now being a non hardcore Batman reader I was entertained by the new direction, the extreme colour scheme, rough primitive art style and emphasis on the supporting cast.

With regard to Reign, it features ‘Spider-man’ a character I am very familiar with.
I was pointing out how the series does not read like a Spidey story and in fact is pretty damn depressing. You might not agree w/ me, but that’s how it is.
KLH for example was murky and dark , but it being bleak for the sake of it was not the sole driving force behind the narrative. With Reign it’s hard to see it any other way, unless you want to tell me what the point of this story is? What is it trying to accomplish that has not been done many times before in much more successful Spidey stories?, if it is indeed trying to do something other than be a lame DKR spin off that seeks to differentiate itself by being more depressing.

KA went on record himself to say that this series was ‘about making Spider-man feel some pain’ or some cheesy crap like that before #1 even saw print. Well congrats, its pretty depressing, just looks like he forgot the bit about how he was writing a Spider-man book.

You're basically saying that what’s been happening to Peter is statistically unrealistic? Are you saying NO ONE is able to have such a bad life? Please tell me this is not the intent of your unrealistic comment. :dry:

What I’m saying is once upon a time there was a kid called Kare Andrews who read a comic called The Dark Knight Returns. He loved it and thought to himself one day I will make a comic which takes it’s cues from DKR, but instead of Batman Il use Spider-man and make it really depressing to try and trick people into thinking it’s an original slant on the super hero format.
The end.
 
Frankly, even though it's very similar in nature to DKR, and the news characters in the book have the names as the creators of DKR (hence, Kaare's nod to the creative inspiration of Reign), I believe Spider-Man: Reign to be much more depressing than The Dark Knight Returns ever was... and I've read both books off the rack.

:huh: :huh: :huh:
 
And I believe that you're mistaken when calling it "The Dark Knight Strikes Again", which was the terrible sequal to DKR a few years ago, because that trite couldn't inspire anybody to even have a crap, much less create a comic book story.

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
 
and i say, that reign is the perfect example of how to GOOD write a book inspired by another book. no doubt KA took the same path that miller took with DKR.

But thats nothing bad. how many original ideas can one have after hundrets of storytelling years? NOTHING IS NEW... absolutely nothing. and thats okay. because its good to cover some things, if done withre spect to the original, to the material and to the story. and KA does exactly that. its a logical sequel to the spider-man story. you may liek or dislike it, its up to you but its not as unrealistic as nay doc strange comic, its not as unrealistic as any ghost rider or whatso ever comic, its not as far off from spider-man as the howard the duck or dracula issues, and its not even half as far off from characterisation than the clone saga was.

so if you dotn like the book, drop it and stop ranting about it because YOU wont change anyones opinion, as I wont do either...

why do some peple never learn to midn their own buisness instead of runing around playing the jerk because they want the others to share their opinion. opinions are liek ********s everyone has one and if its differen than yours its good. if we would all like the same stuff it would be boring as hell-.-

edit: oh and your comment of Won_08s question did not answer the question at all...
 
I was joking with the fan boy comment.

So you're telling me no matter what...Spidey should read like the way Stan wrote each and everytime? *Shakes his head*

Opinions will be opinions. I will never try to change yours. But I dont agree with em. =/
 
ill give anyone ten years to sit down and create a completely original story that hasnt been done before...
 
And I believe that you're mistaken when calling it "The Dark Knight Strikes Again", which was the terrible sequal to DKR a few years ago, because that trite couldn't inspire anybody to even have a crap, much less create a comic book story.

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

Oh yeah you're right.
Was a late night what can I say.
 
ill give anyone ten years to sit down and create a completely original story that hasnt been done before...


"There is nothing new under the sun."

The difference in a good and a bad story isn't the originality of the concept....it's how well it's handled.
 
"There is nothing new under the sun."

The difference in a good and a bad story isn't the originality of the concept....it's how well it's handled.

Exactally. And personaly, I like Reign, and is it simmilar to DKR? Yes, but then again, it's simmilar to any story that shows the future in a dark depressing way. And Really, I think Reign is much more depressing and dark then DKR was. Peter's much worse off then Bruce was in DKR.
 
this book is the best ive read not in tpb form... and considering ive been reading spidey for the last two years... thats pretty pathetic. heres hoping for a fantastical finale
 
And so what he is wearing a different costume, that dont make him stronger or anything.

Christ! Don't tell me you don't understand the symbolism of him putting the red and blues on. It’s pretty clear that he went back to wearing the black threads following MJs death, just like people wearing black at a funeral. That also means that his depression started at the point as well. By putting the Red and Blues back on he is showing the world that the Real Spider-Man is back.
 
that, i understood. what went over my head was "zombie MJ" laying a wet one on Peter. i figured he imagined it, but then her dialogue inspired him to break out of the coffin ("Go get 'em, Tiger."). Since he only heard her say "Go", how could he have heard her say that to inspire him, unless i'm missing the point. please excuse my unintelligence, but what do you think?
 
subconcious.. ocks actions coupled with his coming to terms with her death.. having a vision/imagination of his wife's last words... he finally stopped pitying himself. he got out of the funk and rut he was in with his letting go of MJ and the black suit.

expand your mind a little bit.. it reads like a novel in a sense.. try piecing these things together yourself.. its done for affect.. .for the sake of emotion....
 
Second so what if I am?, how is that any different from anyone else here who expresses an opinion.

There is generally a big difference between someone just expressing their opinion on something and a fanboy rant. If you cannot tell the difference than you must be a fanboy. *insert tongue sticking out smiley here because the Hype has been ******ed for a while and it doesn't display*
 
subconcious.. ocks actions coupled with his coming to terms with her death.. having a vision/imagination of his wife's last words... he finally stopped pitying himself. he got out of the funk and rut he was in with his letting go of MJ and the black suit.

expand your mind a little bit.. it reads like a novel in a sense.. try piecing these things together yourself.. its done for affect.. .for the sake of emotion....
:up::up:
 
subconcious.. ocks actions coupled with his coming to terms with her death.. having a vision/imagination of his wife's last words... he finally stopped pitying himself. he got out of the funk and rut he was in with his letting go of MJ and the black suit.

expand your mind a little bit.. it reads like a novel in a sense.. try piecing these things together yourself.. its done for affect.. .for the sake of emotion....
thanks, i appreciate it. and i'll keep working on that; they're still teaching us that in high school, but i'm getting better at it...
 
Christ! Don't tell me you don't understand the symbolism of him putting the red and blues on. It’s pretty clear that he went back to wearing the black threads following MJs death, just like people wearing black at a funeral. That also means that his depression started at the point as well. By putting the Red and Blues back on he is showing the world that the Real Spider-Man is back.

Meh.
 
first post...woo.

finally got all three issues this week...

does anyone else think JJJ gave peter the black costume not only to say "hey, this place is a mess we need help" but mainly as a warning that venom was lurking around? i mean, he was trying to warn everybody...peter would be the best place to start.
 
first post...woo.

finally got all three issues this week...

does anyone else think JJJ gave peter the black costume not only to say "hey, this place is a mess we need help" but mainly as a warning that venom was lurking around? i mean, he was trying to warn everybody...peter would be the best place to start.


dunno, im sure he gave it to pete because it was peters costume for the last 50 years, and he said he burried the red and blues with her.. there was no other mask...
 

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