Comics Stan Lee Meets Spider-Man

[Dangerous]

W/ great power comes hot babes and money from wrestling! hahahahah.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Were you guys actually expecting 84 year old Stan Lee to be writing like in his prime?

I was expecting to be entertained, especially when i pay $3.99...
If Stan isnt up to the task, then they should have just let Whedon write the whole thing (which, incidentally, is exactly what i think they DID)...

 

[Dragon]

I was expecting to be entertained, especially when i pay $3.99...
If Stan isnt up to the task, then they should have just let Whedon write the whole thing (which, incidentally, is exactly what i think they DID)...

Well, based on Marvel's recent track record, you're expecting WAY TOO MUCH. Even at best they're hit or miss. Their top talent are lazy, overpaid, overrated, over-glorified narcisstic child-like fanboys.

In Stan's heyday he was pumping out as many as 8 titles per month, plus editing and art directing.

These primadonnas can hardly put out 1 TITLE for eight months straight. And yes- Marvel supposedly has an editing staff. They could have worked with an again- 84 YEAR OLD retired pro to develop a strong story. They didn't.

So you should be aware that buying a Marvel Comic these days is the equivalent of dropping your 3.99 in a slot machine. Not even really. At least the slot machine generates pretty lights and pleasant ringing bells.

 

[Dangerous]

So you should be aware that buying a Marvel Comic these days is the equivalent of dropping your 3.99 in a slot machine. Not even really. At least the slot machine generates pretty lights and pleasant ringing bells.

Hheheheh,.
Read Punisher MAX.
I'm betting it's better than anything that is currently on your Marvel pull list.

 

[Arach Knight]

So you should be aware that buying a Marvel Comic these days is the equivalent of dropping your 3.99 in a slot machine. Not even really. At least the slot machine generates pretty lights and pleasant ringing bells.

Oh my gosh...that is going into my signature if I have the space. And if not, i'm replacing my signature with that statement. That is absolutely hilarious. The other day I was thinking

Question: what's the fastest way to get somebody to read a DC comic book?

Answer: Let them read a Marvel one first

But man...what you put down tops that easily. Glad to see other people are finally getting discontent with some of Marvel's more risky and poor story choices these days. But for what it's worth, all of the bad choices mainly revolve around X-Men (not so much) and Spider-Man (all the time). Most of Marvel's other books range from mediocre (Iron Man) to pretty damn good (New Avengers, Uncanny, Captain America, Daredevil etc).

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Well, based on Marvel's recent track record, you're expecting WAY TOO MUCH. Even at best they're hit or miss. Their top talent are lazy, overpaid, overrated, over-glorified narcisstic child-like fanboys.

In Stan's heyday he was pumping out as many as 8 titles per month, plus editing and art directing.

These primadonnas can hardly put out 1 TITLE for eight months straight. And yes- Marvel supposedly has an editing staff. They could have worked with an again- 84 YEAR OLD retired pro to develop a strong story. They didn't.

So you should be aware that buying a Marvel Comic these days is the equivalent of dropping your 3.99 in a slot machine. Not even really. At least the slot machine generates pretty lights and pleasant ringing bells.

I disagree. Im reading about 10 Marvel titles a month, and am VERY much satisfied with writing, art, and scheduling.

In my opinion, Marvel is currently putting out some of the best material ive seen in nearly a decade and a half, easily.

 

[Dragon]

I disagree. Im reading about 10 Marvel titles a month, and am VERY much satisfied with writing, art, and scheduling.

In my opinion, Marvel is currently putting out some of the best material ive seen in nearly a decade and a half, easily.

What are you reading?

 

[Arach Knight]

I disagree. Im reading about 10 Marvel titles a month, and am VERY much satisfied with writing, art, and scheduling

I was on board with you, until you said that. I just heard that they delayed Civil War #5 until November. That's an entire month. Astonishing got delayed to a bi-monthly because of Whedon's other work (Serenity, Wonder Woman etc) and lets not forget how long it took Kevin Smith to come back and finish the end of a Spider-Man arc that is so outdated, that the characterization isn't even accurate to the current Spider-Man. Marvel has the worst scheduling imaginable. DC is busy putting out 52 issue maxi series on a weekly basis, without any signs of slowing down, yet Marvel can't even keep up with monthlys???? I'm not saying you can't be satisfied with that, but I just want to hear you explain your reasoning behind that satisfaction.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

What are you reading?

Civil War
Frontline
Annihilation
Amazing Spider-Man
Sensational Spider-Man
Friendly Neighborhood
Hulk
Daredevil
Captain America
Fantastic Four
Heroes For Hire
Wolverine
Young Avengers/Runaways

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I was on board with you, until you said that. I just heard that they delayed Civil War #5 until November. That's an entire month. Astonishing got delayed to a bi-monthly because of Whedon's other work (Serenity, Wonder Woman etc) and lets not forget how long it took Kevin Smith to come back and finish the end of a Spider-Man arc that is so outdated, that the characterization isn't even accurate to the current Spider-Man. Marvel has the worst scheduling imaginable. DC is busy putting out 52 issue maxi series on a weekly basis, without any signs of slowing down, yet Marvel can't even keep up with monthlys???? I'm not saying you can't be satisfied with that, but I just want to hear you explain your reasoning behind that satisfaction.

Doesnt bother ME.

Also; i heard 52 was late last week...true?

 

[JLBats]

I can honestly tell you, that I haven't read too many other comic books that date back that far. But, I can imagine that you are right. That style of dialogue is often reflected in older shows like Batman (Adam West/Burt Ward). The dialogue in that show is just terrible. But the show has a place in my heart.

Guys, doesn't anyone see the irony in saying "Man, the dialogue in these old comics is so lame, but I love the way the stories are told".



You might as well say "I love Shakespeare, but the poetic dialogue **** is terrible."

Old comics featured a certain kind of dialogue that, while not intentionally, is ultimately an inherent part of the comic. I wouldn't like the classics as much without it.

It doesn't really fit in today's comics, though, where thoroughly depressing stammers are becoming the norm.

 

[Arach Knight]

Just because you appreciate something, doesn't mean you can't recognize problems with it The dialouge in the old Adam West Batman show was horrible. It had less to do with the time frame, and more to do with the style of writing. If you look back on older films like The Day the Earth Stood still (predating Adam West Batman), the diaogue in that is quite believable. I think that film even won Oscars. Flash foward only a few years after Adam West Batman, and we can look at The Incredible Hulk, which took on far better dialogue and tone. The dialogue can be annoying, but the story can still be good. I would rather read Amazing Spider-Man #3 (written by Stan Lee) as opposed to reading any Sins Past, The Other, The Clone Saga etc etc. You can't view things in such a black and white fashion.

 

[rscal]

Just because you appreciate something, doesn't mean you can't recognize problems with it The dialouge in the old Adam West Batman show was horrible. It had less to do with the time frame, and more to do with the style of writing. If you look back on older films like The Day the Earth Stood still (predating Adam West Batman), the diaogue in that is quite believable. I think that film even won Oscars. Flash foward only a few years after Adam West Batman, and we can look at The Incredible Hulk, which took on far better dialogue and tone. The dialogue can be annoying, but the story can still be good. I would rather read Amazing Spider-Man #3 (written by Stan Lee) as opposed to reading any Sins Past, The Other, The Clone Saga etc etc. You can't view things in such a black and white fashion.

the adam west dialogue was suppose to be lame it was satirizing comic books and the old seriels. It was a comedy for the adults and that kids watched because of the action. The dialogue was never suppose to be believable.

 

[Arach Knight]

I feel that the tone is more related to the some what lighter image that the Batman books used to carry at that time. I'm sure everybody here has seen the varoius and silly World's Finest books from that era, where Batman is helping Superman save kids from swimming in off limit lakes, or riding a three person bike. Batman used to be a little silly. But if you ever see the old Batman serial, you can see how Batman could have been portrayed by Adam West. Those serials were violent and serious.

 

[Kool-Aid]

Just bought/read it today and loved it.

 

[freemadison]

I would rather read Amazing Spider-Man #3 (written by Stan Lee) as opposed to reading any Sins Past, The Other, The Clone Saga etc etc.

I wouldn't. t:

Hell, I'd rather read Sins Past.

But then again you're comparing one issue to entire arcs that each have both good (Amazing 400, FNSM in the Other, and the 1st issue of Sins Past) and bad issues (Scarlet Spider Unlimited, Hudlin issues of the Other, and every other Sins Past issue).

 

[Malus]

I read through it in the store.
I'm wondering, was nobody else at all bothered by the final panel in the second story, where the guy announces he's headed to "Porn World" and Stan indicates he's coming along with "let's roll" ?

Strange to think that Stan would want that iamge of himself put out there in people's minds, nevermind the kids asking "what's a porn world."

Didn't offend me. Just made me shake my head.

 

[freemadison]

I read through it in the store.
I'm wondering, was nobody else at all bothered by the final panel in the second story, where the guy announces he's headed to "Porn World" and Stan indicates he's coming along with "let's roll" ?

Strange to think that Stan would want that iamge of himself put out there in people's minds, nevermind the kids asking "what's a porn world."

Didn't offend me. Just made me shake my head.

Actually he said "Let's Ride", which is a lot cooler...

Let's face facts....Stan Lee whacks it.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Actually he said "Let's Ride", which is a lot cooler...

Let's face facts....Stan Lee whacks it.

At age 84?

That's encouraging!

 

[CConn]

I'm hoping there'll be some sort of whacking machine by the time I'm 84.

 

[Cullen]

Civil War
Frontline
Annihilation
Amazing Spider-Man
Sensational Spider-Man
Friendly Neighborhood
Hulk
Daredevil
Captain America
Fantastic Four
Heroes For Hire
Wolverine
Young Avengers/Runaways

Me, all I've gotten of late was Daredevil and Doctor Strange: The Oath. Both titles strike me as true to what the comics and characters were back in the day while maintaining a more modern style of writing. Very much worth the money spent on them.

Hulk looks very readable and if I wasn't dropping in mid-story, I'd pick it up.

The others I've either thumbed through or skipped altogether. Spider-man in particular I've taken no pleasure in, which kills me. (Especially since I'm reading Daredevil of all characters.) Everything feels forced to me, the characters acting according to what the plot demands, and not behaving the way they should. That and an overwhelming sense of predictability...
But that's me.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Me, all I've gotten of late was Daredevil and Doctor Strange: The Oath. Both titles strike me as true to what the comics and characters were back in the day while maintaining a more modern style of writing. Very much worth the money spent on them.

Hulk looks very readable and if I wasn't dropping in mid-story, I'd pick it up.

The others I've either thumbed through or skipped altogether. Spider-man in particular I've taken no pleasure in, which kills me. (Especially since I'm reading Daredevil of all characters.) Everything feels forced to me, the characters acting according to what the plot demands, and not behaving the way they should. That and an overwhelming sense of predictability...
But that's me.

Have you checked out the current volume of Captain America? I think Brubaker has sucessfully captured the feel the book had in the late sixties, yet retains a modern vibe as well, imo...

And yes; DEFINITELY invest in purchasing a few back issues to get caught up on The Hulk. You only need eight issues, beginning with #92...

I also recommend Fantastic Four, Particularly issues #533 through #535 for a CLASSIC confirmation of Ben & Johnny's friendship.

 

[Kraven]

Cap, do you enjoy the X-Men? If you do, I would highly recommend Astonishing to you, or to anyone else for that matter.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Finally got a chance to read this. I liked his meeting with Spider-Man in the 90's cartoon a lot better than this. But Coipel's artwork was amazing, definitely worth the price of admission alone. And Whedon's story wasn't that bad either, it had it's funny moments.

 

[Arach Knight]

Have you checked out the current volume of Captain America? I think Brubaker has sucessfully captured the feel the book had in the late sixties, yet retains a modern vibe as well, imo...

I'm not particularly happy with Marvel at the moment, but I would second Captain Stacy's suggestion. When they introduced Winter Soldier, the Captain America book became vastly better. The artwork is utterly amazing and well suited, and Ed Brubaker is an impressive writer. His run on Uncanny X-Men and various DC books in the past, more than credit his deft writing abilities.