Star Trek: Discovery

[Loki882]

The entirety of Enterprise is one big contradiction with what came before. The body armor is a minor detail by comparison.

Also I'd prefer to not let a stupid oversight from the past prevent this show from addressing said stupid oversight.

 

[roach]

TOS is also one big contradiction of itself.
Spock speaks of an ancestor being human in the pilot...then it's his mom.
One episode Vulcan has never been conquered and in another it was.
Did the Enterprise and crew work for Star Fleet or the United Earth Space Probe Agency?

 

[Dark Raven]

ST: TNG was also contradictory. There was a supposed rule about the captain not beaming down on away missions but the first officer going instead but they abandoned that soon after. Picard was frequently going on missions.

 

[chamber-music]

They break the prime directives all the time in the Star Trek universe as well.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Yeah. I really don't understand it. They should put this on network TV if it's any good. And it should be; I mean, they assembled a great cast at least.

I guess after Limitless and Supergirl flopped the season before they decided another sci-fi show wasn't something people who watch CBS would want to see. The only show that even remotely resembles sci-fi is Scorpion,
and that's really sort of a cop show with fancy gadgets.

TOS is also one big contradiction of itself.
Spock speaks of an ancestor being human in the pilot...then it's his mom.
One episode Vulcan has never been conquered and in another it was.
Did the Enterprise and crew work for Star Fleet or the United Earth Space Probe Agency?

Well technically a mother is an ancestor. Just not a distant ancestor.
UESPA?

 

[Kaleb]

Star Trek: Discovery storyline revealed

 

[roach]

I guess after Limitless and Supergirl flopped the season before they decided another sci-fi show wasn't something people who watch CBS would want to see. The only show that even remotely resembles sci-fi is Scorpion,
and that's really sort of a cop show with fancy gadgets.




Well technically a mother is an ancestor. Just not a distant ancestor.
UESPA?

In Charlie X and Tomorrow is Yesterday UESPA is mentioned as who Kirk and crew work for. In Tomorrow is Yesterday Kirk tells Captain Christopher that the Enterprise operates under the authority of the "United Earth Space Probe Agency," which Kirk describes as a "combined service" when Christopher presumes that the Enterprise is operated by the navy.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

In Charlie X and Tomorrow is Yesterday UESPA is mentioned as who Kirk and crew work for. In Tomorrow is Yesterday Kirk tells Captain Christopher that the Enterprise operates under the authority of the "United Earth Space Probe Agency," which Kirk describes as a "combined service" when Christopher presumes that the Enterprise is operated by the navy.

I guess it would make sense that Star Fleet would operate as the Navy. Obviously fleet is a nautical term for a group of ships. It could be a somewhat similar situation to where the Air Force was part
of the Army at one time, where it was the Army Air Corp. So in the Air Force the ranks are the same as in the Army. In this case Star Fleet was once a branch of the Navy. So that is why the ranks
are the same. And the ranks are based on the ranks in the Navy. Admirals, Captains, Commanders, Lt. Commanders, Lieutenants, Ensigns, Chiefs. And Navy captain is the equivalent of a Colonel in
the Army, while an Army captain is just a Navy lieutenant.

 

[roach]

I guess it would make sense that Star Fleet would operate as the Navy. Obviously fleet is a nautical term for a group of ships. It could be a somewhat similar situation to where the Air Force was part
of the Army at one time, where it was the Army Air Corp. So in the Air Force the ranks are the same as in the Army. In this case Star Fleet was once a branch of the Navy. So that is why the ranks
are the same. And the ranks are based on the ranks in the Navy. Admirals, Captains, Commanders, Lt. Commanders, Lieutenants, Ensigns, Chiefs. And Navy captain is the equivalent of a Colonel in
the Army, while an Army captain is just a Navy lieutenant.

Its based on the Navy because Roddenberry based Kirk on Horatio Hornblower. Which is why Star Fleet operates like the British fleet of the 1700's and nothing like the modern navies of the world (I did 11 years in the US Navy)

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Its based on the Navy because Roddenberry based Kirk on Horatio Hornblower. Which is why Star Fleet operates like the British fleet of the 1700's and nothing like the modern navies of the world (I did 11 years in the US Navy)

Just 8 years myself in the USN. A&E did a Horatio series a few years back based on the C.S. Forester books, with very high production values, movie quality. He started as a Midshipman and in each episode he moved up the
ranks until he was the captain of his own ship. As well as sea battles there were lots of landing party battles, taking forts, etc. If you like stories about the Navy, and haven't seen it yet, you should try to find it. I'm guessing
Kirk was the Horatio Hornblower in final episode of Horatio.

 

[Breogan]

Star Trek: Discovery storyline revealed

Sonequa Martin-Green as a Starfleet First Officer who was the first human to attend the Vulcan Science Academy.

“Burnham [has] spent a lot of time on Vulcan, but she’s human,” Harberts says. “Sarek [Spock’s father, played by James Frain] plays an important role in her life, which has been completely planned until she makes a very difficult choice that sends her life on a very different path. When we meet her, she’s the First Officer on the Starship Shenzhou [captained by Philippa Georgiou, played by Michelle Yeoh]. And Burnham’s choice that we’re alluding to is most difficult choice you can make — it affects her, affects Starfleet, affects the Federation, it affects the entire universe. That choice leads her to a different ship, the Discovery [helmed by Captain Lorca, played by Jason Isaacs] ....'”

Not much to go by, but I like the working premise and set up. Curious to see how this plays out, what this "very difficult choice" she makes is? I imagine it involves confronting the Klingons? Not sure if her move to the Discovery forms the intended part of her choice, or is the consequences of it?

“The joy is in the journey,” Berg replied. “The advantage to her not being in charge of the bridge right now is we get to tell stories from a very different point of view.

Also like this approach to the main protagonist, not being the captain.

 

[roach]

Just 8 years myself in the USN. A&E did a Horatio series a few years back based on the C.S. Forester books, with very high production values, movie quality. He started as a Midshipman and in each episode he moved up the
ranks until he was the captain of his own ship. As well as sea battles there were lots of landing party battles, taking forts, etc. If you like stories about the Navy, and haven't seen it yet, you should try to find it. I'm guessing
Kirk was the Horatio Hornblower in final episode of Horatio.

I've been reading the books. I've been toying with the idea of writing a fanfic about a star fleet officer that we follow from the Academy to making rank of Captain.

 

[Breogan]

Jason Isaacs interview - http://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/jason-isaacs#_

ISAACS: I can't talk about work. I can only say that I go into the building and I leave at the end of the day. I posted an Instagram picture of the script with all the words blanked out, so you just see my name on it, which I thought was very witty and amusing, and apparently some tech genius having a day off from Putin managed to enhance left and pan right like Blade Runner, and make out two words of dialogue. I've now had to give one of my children up.

Lol Wouldn't put it past Trekkies to build a whole scenario off 2 words.

ISAACS: In the absence of anything at all, there's already a narrative out there about what the show is about. When the trailer came out, everyone was talking utter bollocks and got it completely wrong.

PARKER: I haven't seen the trailer.

ISAACS: I'm not in it.

PARKER: Why not?

ISAACS: Because... I can't tell you.

t:

 

[Breogan]

LOL feeling like I'm the only one who will be giving this series a chance.

Love the groovy tripping 60's style posters.
I'm so glad they kept the unique delta shaped hull, further, the absolutely incongruous details of the ship: The center bridge sphere, the partitioned saucer section, with all the "azteking" details, and the purple-haze emitting deflector-dish LOL! t:
Can't wait to see the Discovery in action!

 

[marvelrobbins]

i just can't get excited for this.it all starts cbs really thinks trekkers will sign up for new streaming service and show seems ready to disresp star trek.

the idea this is set in prime timeline 10 years before original star trek isn't backed up by anything in trailer or photos.this looks like another reboot or
prequel to kelvin films.

They aren't doing much if that if this really is part of prime universe to appeal to trekkers.

 

[Paradox1]

I'm a Trekkie, they had my money at Star Trek.

 

[RockSP]

LOL feeling like I'm the only one who will be giving this series a chance.

I'll be giving it a chance as well. I like Star Trek but I'm by no means a hardcore fanboy of the franchise. I watched TNG & DS9 regularly, but didn't like Voyager and Enterprise. So if this sucks I'll drop it just like I did the last two.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I'm a Trekkie, they had my money at Star Trek.

you mean trekker don't you,trekkie is what they call us to deengrate ust:

 

[Paradox1]

you mean trekker don't you,trekkie is what they call us to deengrate ust:

I still go by Trekkie, like I still go by nerd.

 

[Marvolo]

I want to give it a chance, but Im not subscribing to CBS's stupid streaming service to do it. Itd suck for Trekkers and the cast and crew, but I kind of want this to fail. Just as a punishment for CBS making this exclusive to their streaming service in the US. This is the first Trek show in 12 years. They need to be wooing new viewers and Trekkers. Doing all they can to capture the largest audience possible. Instead theyve deliberately limited the size of their audience and asked people in the US that already have the CBS channel to pay more just to watch this show. Its dumb, its insulting, and its greedy.

 

[Thome216]

I'll see what airs on TV, but I'm not paying for a streaming service, esp just to watch one show. CBS should have stuck to the normal model rather than using this new show as a tool for their access stream.

I hope it does good, and what I've seen looks good, but you don't start out by narrowing your audience.

As for the look, it definitely looks more like JJ-verse rather than TOS, which I can understand. Any new series, especially to appeal to younger audience, is going to have to look 'futuristic.' Back in the 60s, TOS was what they would have viewed as futuristic. To use the same look for a new series for today's audiences I think would have handicapped it, esp if not done right. TOS is rather dated, and so any new series would need to recon the look of the original.

So I would say that the look they chose just doesn't fit with a decade earlier in the TOS universe. I like it, but it just doesn't fit with what they say they are going for.

They could have gone with a TOS look with just a few tweaks, as seen here.
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Another is that I really don't like the look of the ship. Even when I first saw it years ago as a concept drawing from Adams-McQuarrie, I've never liked it. I think it's because the saucer and triangle just don't flow well together.

It looks like a flying saucer collided with a Star Destroyer.

For the hero ship, I would have preferred the Shenzou, or even an 'updated' Daedalus class ship.

I know the ship may not be a central focus, but for me it's as much a character as the crew, and is always a big draw for me.

And thus, also a detraction...

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

I'm a long-time Trekker and I don't care how many years it's been since we've had a ST series, I abso-f***ing-lutely refuse to pay for a streaming service to get it... there are other ways I can get it without paying s**t for it, especially when I may be GETTING a s**t ST series in the long run...

 

[Teelie]

It doesn't matter if the series turns out to be good. It is going to fail because of this stupid CBS streaming restriction and will be found in alternative locations soon after it is released thus making this all the more pointless for CBS to attempt.

 

[Grootster]

I actually thought the trailer looked decent, but everything else I've heard about this show makes it sound like it's not going to be that great. Hopefully they're able to make this good; if it fails, I hope the Star Trek franchise is able to survive this, as well as the nonsense that was the reboot series.

 

[roach]

I'll give it a chance.