Sci-Fi Starship Troopers Remake Is in the Works

MessiahDecoy123 said:
The movie was one of the better action sci-fi movies of the past 20 years.
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Really? The action was terrible CGI and hammy, wooden acting. In the last 20 years we've seen T2, Jurassic Park, The Matrix, Serenity, District 9, Inception, etc. I wouldn't put that in the same league much less same ballpark as those films.

And it did have big ideas it just didn't take itself too seriously. It used complex ideas like jingoism and fascism and played with them in a futuristic 90210 universe. It's basically a propoganda piece played for laughs and spectacle andit works as satire.
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A very bad satire whose ideas seem almost by accident.
 
No, the fact that history repeats itself isn't an accident. Timing might have been accidental, but Vorhoeven's military propaganda satire was spot on with history. We just didn't realize that we haven't really evolved.

I understand the idea about an adaptation truer to Heinlein's novel being worthwhile, but nothing in the article leads me to believe that will be the case. Admittedly, there's almost nothing in the article, but the fact that Heinlein is never mentioned speaks loudly.

I'd be more optimisitic is someone was saying they were taking a crack at The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
 
Jeez, there are plenty of books out there that have never been adapted and are quite worthy of one. Why go back to this?

And I liked Vehoven's film purely on a hard R-rated action-comedy level. I never read the book.
 
I never liked the first movie and I am a huge fan of Robocop and Total Recall. Troopers just always seemed so desperate to me, a last gasp from irrelevant writers and a director.

I'm not against the remake for this anymore than I'd be against a Hollow Man remake.

DACrowe said:
Really? The action was terrible CGI and hammy, wooden acting. In the last 20 years we've seen T2, Jurassic Park, The Matrix, Serenity, District 9, Inception, etc. I wouldn't put that in the same league much less same ballpark as those films.



A very bad satire whose ideas seem almost by accident.
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:up:

Robocop and Recall were satirical in nature and none of them featured the terrible acting present in Troopers. Troopers is a bad movie that a few people have convinced themselves is good and holds a deeper message.
 
Evil Twin said:
No, the fact that history repeats itself isn't an accident. Timing might have been accidental, but Vorhoeven's military propaganda satire was spot on with history. We just didn't realize that we haven't really evolved.
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I'm not disagreeing with the message and I see the similarities with the Bush era ( was opposed to Iraq from the beginning). But that doesn't make it a good movie.
 
Evil Twin said:
No, the fact that history repeats itself isn't an accident. Timing might have been accidental, but Vorhoeven's military propaganda satire was spot on with history. We just didn't realize that we haven't really evolved.
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I'm not disagreeing with the message and I see the similarities with the Bush era ( was opposed to Iraq from the beginning). But that doesn't make it a good movie.
 
I always thought Starship Troopers belonged in the "so bad it's good" category. It was just a lot of fun and in the top ten of my guilt pleasure list.
 
It sort of is, but when I read the book after seeing the movie first...i really bean to despise the movie...

I'd like to see a lot of Heinlein's stuff done....a better film to reboot IMO is his take oon The Puppet Masters, which was done as a invasion of the body snatchers clone with Donald Sutherland, but it really was nothing like the book.

Heinleins was very noir and comedic. It could be done well.
 
Evil Twin said:
No, the fact that history repeats itself isn't an accident. Timing might have been accidental, but Vorhoeven's military propaganda satire was spot on with history. We just didn't realize that we haven't really evolved.
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Well said.

and basically he's saying if people like Heinlein have their way we'll keep making these mistakes forever.

Too bad people didn't catch the message. We're still in Iraq and dealing with the Patriot Act. They even tried to sneak through a bill this week that would allow the military to detain Americans without trail. All because of 9-11.

Just because the movie is silly doesn't mean you should ignore the message. The movie is actually too smart for most of the general audience who rather drink mountain dew and watch Bayformers.

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i say cast tatum and megan fox both are comparable to Casper Van Dean an Denise Richards
 
Satire dude.

The 90210 looking actors were part of it.
 
The movie itself was supposed to be a parody of military propoganda to entice young people to join.
 
THANOSRULES said:
It sort of is, but when I read the book after seeing the movie first...i really bean to despise the movie...

I'd like to see a lot of Heinlein's stuff done....a better film to reboot IMO is his take oon The Puppet Masters, which was done as a invasion of the body snatchers clone with Donald Sutherland, but it really was nothing like the book.

Heinleins was very noir and comedic. It could be done well.
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To me, Stranger in a Strange Land is just aching for a movie treatment. That would be Heinlein's best book-to-movie by far.
 
MessiahDecoy123 said:
The movie itself was supposed to be a parody of military propoganda to entice young people to join.
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Yeah but you have to understand, that message does not just differ or twist the original source material...it actually spits in the face of Heinlein's work.

We have great examples on these boards of fanboys griping about how Howard's Conan and Fleming's bond "missed the mark" of the source...but few dare to be this bold to call themselves the original and essentially spoof a book.
 
THANOSRULES said:
Yeah but you have to understand, that message does not just differ or twist the original source material...it actually spits in the face of Heinlein's worK.

We have great examples on these boards of fanboys griping about how Howard's Conan and Fleming's bond "missed the mark" of the source...but few dare to be this bold to call themselves the original and essentially spoof a book.
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It would be funny if they did a loyal adaptation to Heinlein's book and for it to turn out like the latest Conan movie.

Forgettable and disposable.
 
MessiahDecoy123 said:
It would be funny if they did a loyal adaptation to Heinlein's book and for it to turn out like the latest Conan movie.

Forgettable and disposable.
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It would be forgettable and disposable, no question. For those who haven't read it, it actually features very little real combat in it and is instead set mainly in classrooms and barracks, where soldiers debate civics and military service.

Yippee.
 
Some of you make it sound like Verhoeven's movie had some deep message. No, it was simple, war and patriotism are bad. Which is fine. But let's not pretend it conveyed that message with any subtlety or intelligence.

That, so-so CGI, and bad acting do not make for a good movie, period. He didn't like the book, the movie reflects that.

Also, the tactics in that movie. Who wrote those scenes? You can only hope that was some kind of "satire" on military tactics.
 
Matt said:
Ok, first I am entirely against this. But if it must happen, I have three words:

CVD FOR ZIM!!!!
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Is ZIM the bald headed guy...from Total Recall? Also, CVD will go to the studio and BEG to be in reboot. Man needs it. Like we both need CVD on the big screen. He may not be the best actor, but he is suited for this franchise.
 
It's probably gonna be more like a remboot...kinda like with Halloween. Not as much a straight remake as much it is with starting fresh with a new spin, staying closer with the book, making a lot of new liberties and probably new characters and alternate settings...
 
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The sheer fact that people haven't got the satiricial message of ST leaves me like that: :|
 
I read this book when I was in 7th grade and surprisingly still loved it despite having so little action actually in it.

I think I shall have to re-read it now
 
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