State of Emergency: Baltimore Edition

[The Question]

Ok, so here we have two stories.

1. That says it had nothing to do with the riots, it was miles away.
2. That says it was sparked by a tear gas canister thrown by police.

My question is, why was a tea gas canister being thrown miles away from the riots?

The fire at the senior center had nothing to do with the riots and was miles way.

The fire at the library was right in the thick of things and was caused by a teargas canister thrown by the police.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

It would be a logical response to me, if it was cars on the street, police cars especially, throwing things at the cops, etc.

What makes me stop and think...."really, your motive for doing all of this is that you are SO ANGRY at the way cops in your area are treating the citizens"...so you go and burn down a old folks community center, and break the windows of the liquor store, or head for the CVS pharmacy...because your mad, or because you see an opportunity to get the good stuff?.....and then you cut the hose as they are trying to put out the fire that you "in a fit of anger" started? I'm sorry, but I do not get that...and I find it very hard to have sympathy for the people doing that. I have an ENORMOUS AMOUNT of sympathy for the family of the man who died, because they have lost someone they loved. It has nothing to do with the circumstances RIGHT NOW, once I know all of the details, then I will pass judgment in the way I see fit, and give my opinion. I have sympathy for the store owners that had absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Right now that is as far as my sympathy goes.

Still logical, though.

When violence breaks out with masses, and no direction with it (ie: a leader, or a mission, etc.) then things like the destruction of a small business is going to happen. You're going to have anarchists as well, and people who don't care who gets hurt by what they're doing.

I'm not saying that it's like a plan that goes off. I just think that's it's logical that this stuff happens. Anti-government sentiments, when it becomes violent, is like a wildfire. It can be chaos in and of itself when you consider that it's going against the establishment.

 

[Asgard]

Wow. This man is the truth.

Guess how fox news and Rivera portrayed this young man?

They called him a vandal, obstructionist, annoying and exhibiting "exactly that kind of youthful anarchy that led to the destruction and pain in that community."

They also dont air the video of the guy confronting Rivera and fox news about their coverage of the riots.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Geraldo was ready to fight over the guy blocking his camera shot

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Bill O'reilly went harsh today. He said the reason these segments protest is because they don't have jobs, can't speak well, and are uneducated.

They have no skills. You have to have a skill to compete in the market place.

Oh man. I thought the reason they were protesting was a combination of Freddie Gray and overall poor relationship of black people with law enforcement

 

[Victarion]

Hannity will be beside himself, I'm sure.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Hannity will be beside himself, I'm sure.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Wow. This man is the truth.

Guess how fox news and Rivera portrayed this young man?

They called him a vandal, obstructionist, annoying and exhibiting "exactly that kind of youthful anarchy that led to the destruction and pain in that community."

They also dont air the video of the guy confronting Rivera and fox news about their coverage of the riots.

Geraldo was ready to fight over the guy blocking his camera shot

Wow. There was a lot of truth in what he said.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Why don't people just do protest based on the state of the community, without need of an incident to propel it?

Some of these incidents have had rushes to judgment with changing evidence as time passes, that question the validity of that protest being based off of that specific incident.

 

[Breogan]

Wow. This man is the truth.

Guess how fox news and Rivera portrayed this young man?

They called him a vandal, obstructionist, annoying and exhibiting "exactly that kind of youthful anarchy that led to the destruction and pain in that community."

They also dont air the video of the guy confronting Rivera and fox news about their coverage of the riots.

LOL he used to be more with it, now the best interview he ever did = the one where he is completely voiceless and silenced by truth.
The corporate media is a parasite and this guy called it.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

A fox reporter followed a black guy around asking him questions, and then walked towards the police line. The black guy then got arrested, and the reporter walked on his merry way. Sure he was yelling at cops voicing his opinion past curfew, but the reporter was following him asking questions past curfew

 

[Kelly]

A fox reporter followed a black guy around asking him questions, and then walked towards the police line. The black guy then got arrested, and the reporter walked on his merry way. Sure he was yelling at cops voicing his opinion past curfew, but the reporter was following him asking questions past curfew

Actually the reporter told the guy since it was past curfew that he would walk him home to keep him out of trouble and from getting hurt. I watched it as it happened on TV. The guy then walked away from him and started walking towards the police and hollering at them and they had to take him down.

So, no....it really didn't happen the way you just described. And as the reporter stated, they probably did not actually arrest him, they probably simply escorted him home...which is what they were doing with the majority that lived in that area. The ones getting arrested are those from out of town.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Actually the reporter told the guy since it was past curfew that he would walk him home to keep him out of trouble and from getting hurt. I watched it as it happened on TV. The guy then walked away from him and started walking towards the police and hollering at them and they had to take him down.

So, no....it really didn't happen the way you just described. And as the reporter stated, they probably did not actually arrest him, they probably simply escorted him home...which is what they were doing with the majority that lived in that area. The ones getting arrested are those from out of town.

Ah that makes more sense in full context.

 

[The Question]

Actually the reporter told the guy since it was past curfew that he would walk him home to keep him out of trouble and from getting hurt. I watched it as it happened on TV. The guy then walked away from him and started walking towards the police and hollering at them and they had to take him down.

I'm not seeing had to.

So, no....it really didn't happen the way you just described. And as the reporter stated, they probably did not actually arrest him, they probably simply escorted him home...which is what they were doing with the majority that lived in that area. The ones getting arrested are those from out of town.

But we don't know.

Also, that was a pretty forceful escort.

 

[vothisau]

You all are more mad at the people for destroying public property than you all are mad at the police for killing civilians.

Cops kill an unarmed person (I want to say black, but I'm just gonna say "person" to spare myself the "what about other races that are killed by the police?" questions) and all over the board its "eh,
it was an accident" "its not a race thing" "moving on" but the minute a store gets looted now everyone wants to speak up.

 

[chamber-music]

They probably thought about it, and then figured that it didn't matter. This is the United States, and not Mega-City One after all.

Does it matter, if in the end the death was fishy? Freddie Gray's death is seeming more and more like a cover up, but should people ignore it because of his drug crime past? Does it matter if his criminal past is drug related...or does it have to be murder for us to ignore it?

It sounds like a really detailed approach you want to how we should feel about possible wrongful deaths based on the deceased's past. The logic with this just seems like it's on a slippery slope that ultimately leads to Judge Dredd or something.

It isn't worth wasting your energy.

I get the general vibe with some sections of the population that it doesn't matter what a person did or didn't do, what that person's person background or history is or where they come from, if they died at the hands of the police it is always justified.

I think a black kid could get shot in the head in front of the entire world's assembled media and people would still say he did something that meant he deserved to die.

The fact that you hear people saying fleeing from the police should justifiably met with their execution tells you all you need to know. Theses are the type of things you expect to be heard from a third world police state or dictatorship and not a first world democracy that prides its self on innocent until proven guilt and every man deserves the right to plead his case in a court of law.

Anyway on a lighter not because I come to Hype for fun here is a man dancing to Michael Jacksons 'beat it' in the middle of the riots
[YT]/w-lrnKOpsuo[/YT]

 

[Victarion]

I got a chuckle out of that guy standing in front of the fires, doing his arms like he was conducting an orchestra.

 

[PacificBoy]

Baltimore police officers to face murder charges in Freddie Gray case

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/01/us-usa-police-baltimore-idUSKBN0NL1GO20150501

Pretty incredible to see these charges up so fast.

 

[chaseter]

#onlyblacklivesmatterapparently

 

[Kar]

Edit

 

[Victarion]

Baltimore police officers to face murder charges in Freddie Gray case

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/01/us-usa-police-baltimore-idUSKBN0NL1GO20150501

Pretty incredible to see these charges up so fast.

How long do they usually take to decide on the charges?

 

[PacificBoy]

How long do they usually take to decide on the charges?

I'm not familiar with US law but charges of this nature seem to take months to make.

 

[Victarion]

I'd be interested in that unauthorized stop they made. The one caught on a surveillance camera.

 

[PacificBoy]

And Gray's arrest is allegedly illegal in the first place. Wow.

 

[The Question]

#onlyblacklivesmatterapparently

What exactly is that supposed to mean?