State you Opinion on a Marvel Event Thread

[IronGirl299]

Title says all! This is the thread where we(dis)gracefully bash/rave about/exalt all the crazy things that have happened to our heroes, from shocking events such as the Secret Invasion to battles of apocalyptic proportions like Fear Itself. We'll start off with--the Heroes Reborn period! Because I downloaded a couple comics from that era on the Marvel Comics app and...
well, what do you guys think?

 

[DACrowe]

I'll start:

One More Day still sucks. I haven't looked back at the character since that story.

 

[DACrowe]

I'll start:

One More Day still sucks. I haven't looked back at the character since that story.

 

[venom892]

Same for me as far as OMD is concerned. I've ignored all major marvel events since Secret Invasion. Don't regret it at all.

 

[runawayboulder]

So are we talking about Heroes Reborn or OMD?

 

[Franklin Richards]

Sorry.. was derailing.

 

[The Morningstar]

Annihilation is the best event to come out of Marvel. Maybe even the best event to come out of all comics, ever.

 

[random_havoc]

IronGirl, yeah Heroes Reborn was an all around bad idea.

DACrowe, yeah I've abandoned the spidey books since OMD as well.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Annihilation is the best event to come out of Marvel. Maybe even the best event to come out of all comics, ever.

 

[runawayboulder]

Well, if we're talking about Heroes Reborn, I'll admit that I was kinda excited by it at first. 2 of the Image founders were coming back to Marvel after leaving 5 or so years prior so it was a pretty big deal. I was upset that the Waid/Garney magic on Cap was being dumped in favor of Liefeld but I was excited to see Jim Lee on FF. It's important to remember that when Heroes Reborn was announced, Thor, Iron Man, The Avengers and FF were stalling creatively.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I was excited by Heroes Reborn: The Return. Still got a poster for it on my wall in my old room. (Salvador Larroca didn't suck back then.)

But yeah, Thor pre-HR was really nothing to crow about. Especially after Deodato debuted that horrible belly-shirt costume.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Annihilation is the best event to come out of Marvel. Maybe even the best event to come out of all comics, ever.

I agree 100 percent

 

[runawayboulder]

The best event ever done was Infinity Gauntlet. Annihilation is up there...just not at the top.

 

[DACrowe]

Does the Galactus saga from the 1960s count? That was a pretty amazing event.

Civil War was a great premise but the execution was mediocre. I actually hope we see that in Avengers 2 or 3 in the MCU....though it may feel small considering they can't throw in Spidey, the Fantastic Four, etc.

I just read Ultimate Doomsday and it was probably the best Marvel event I've read in a long time. Then again I really haven't read Marvel/DC much in the last five years.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Siege was actually an alright event.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The best event ever done was Infinity Gauntlet. Annihilation is up there...just not at the top.

You're silly. Look at this guy. He's silly.

 

[Splat]

Civil War is what got me back into comics after a long time away. I noticed Annihilation at the shop and picked it up as well. I liked both but I agree Annihilation was better, and it was on time, I think.

And on a side note when I picked up that 1st issue of Civil War the paper it was printed on blew me away. I was used to the old newspaper style of pages so the new pages were a big surprise. That was honestly a big reason I started collecting again, the books just look so much better printed on the new paper.

 

[The Morningstar]

The problem with Infinity Gauntlet is the ending was kinda, anti-climatic. It's like they ran out of ideas on how to finished and was just like "We'll have Thanos defeat himself because he's dumb and arrogant... even though he's the master of prep time and is one of the most intelligent beings in the universe". It just stank of "plot induced stupidity". Same as having Cap be the last man standing. I mean, i get the symbolism and all, but it seemed contrived. Overall though it was still awesome. I mean, it had Thanos and a couple of Celestials playing ping pong... with ****ing planets!

Annihilation didn't really have that anti-climatic ending. In fact, the ending was one of the most awesome things ever. Nova ripping out Annihilus insides? Galactus letting off a 4 solar system destroying blast? The showdown between Drax and Thanos? It also had a really great and meaningful death of a superhero in Quasar, which as we all know is a rarity in comics. There was just so many cool, memorable moments. Like Surfer's battles with Ravenous. The heralds fighting the fleet. The destruction of Xandar. Annihilus speed blitzing his own fleet, destroying about a thousand ships in the blink of an eye. Galactus getting captured?!?!?!

Annihilation was just chock full of awesome set pieces and brilliant characterisation that didn't have a hint of "plot induced stupidity". It all just made sense. For me it is the level of which all writers should aspire to when doing big events. Thrills, characterisation and solid story telling.

Civil War was great in concept. But the execution was poor. Changing characters to fit your story, instead of writing the story to fit the characters, giving them NATURAL developments and characterisations.

I mean, the shocking treatment of the New Warriors was... shocking. Making them into inexperienced, arrogant and idiotic idiots just to kick start the story? Well done Mark. And don't get me started on Reed basically telling Sue and Ben to **** off, and Reed, Tony and Hank creating Clor. Tony becoming a borderline facist and full on Emperor Palpatine style manipulator when it came to Peter. Just so much fundamentally bad writing it's not even funny.

 

[runawayboulder]

^^^ What's with all these spammers lately?

Anyway, I would also put Acts of Vengeance and Inferno up there too. They were both personal faves of mine and every tie in was a great read.

 

[random_havoc]

The best event ever done was Infinity Gauntlet. Annihilation is up there...just not at the top.

Agreed. Infinity Gauntlet is the event I measure other events by.

Someone mentioned the ending being anticlimactic but I found it satisfying. Want to talk anticlimactic, I'd point to Civil War personally.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

Agreed. Infinity Gauntlet is the event I measure other events by.

Someone mentioned the ending being anticlimactic but I found it satisfying. Want to talk anticlimactic, I'd point to Civil War personally.

agreed. After reading CW . I was like huh? What the hell just happenend?!?Infinity G was the $%^#! Of course villains defeat themselves! Throughout history mother^%$$ who thought they were invincible have fell. Arrogance is a B&%$!and really Thanos didn't defeat Himself . It was Warlock planting the seeds of doubt in his mind which was freakin hella cool. Just like Iago in Othello. That. &^ $#was awesome!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Fall of the Mutants was interesting, although I only read parts of it.

Acts of Vengeance was awesome. Great concept, solid execution.

Civil War was a good idea done very badly.

Infinity Gauntlet was a fun story, but I think I may have read it too long after it originally ran. I only read IG after Infinity War and Infinity Crusade, so it didn't seem as special to me, I guess.

Agreed. Infinity Gauntlet is the event I measure other events by.

Someone mentioned the ending being anticlimactic but I found it satisfying. Want to talk anticlimactic, I'd point to Civil War personally.

I thought the ending was one of the few good parts of Civil War. Cap laying down his shield when he finally realized the cost his personal war with Iron Man was exacting on the very people they were both ostensibly fighting for showed that Cap was the true hero with the winning argument while allowing the Marvel universe to spiral down into chaos under Iron Man's totalitarian fist, just as Cap feared it would. A true-to-character ending that results in truly significant change for the Marvel universe. Isn't that kind of the point of all these events?

 

[runawayboulder]

Fall of the Mutants was interesting, although I only read parts of it.

Acts of Vengeance was awesome. Great concept, solid execution.

Fall of the Mutants was pretty solid. It was more of an X-Men event that had slight tie-ins to other books. There was a Cap tie-in that had nothing to do with the main story except for Cap running into the Horsemen of the Apocalypse in a mid-western cornfield.

Acts of Vengeance was a pretty simple concept of heroes fighting bad guys outside of their normal rogues gallery. Back then that was rarer than it is now. It was an alliance of villains led by Loki (in disguise) way before anybody ever heard of Norman Osborn and his "Cabal".

When Marvel executed the actual event, it was pure gold. You can go through any comic rack in any LCS on the planet and I guarantee you if it has "Acts of Vengeance" on the cover - it's a tremendous story.

Inferno was almost the big brother of 'Acts'. It was a large scale event that tied into all Marvel titles and every story rocked. But it was an X-Men centric event so the Avengers, Spidey and DD fought hordes of demons not knowing what was really going on. 'Acts' was the opposite, it was Avengers-centric and The X-Men were doing their thing.

 

[THANOSRULES]

The problem with Infinity Gauntlet is the ending was kinda, anti-climatic. It's like they ran out of ideas on how to finished and was just like "We'll have Thanos defeat himself because he's dumb and arrogant... even though he's the master of prep time and is one of the most intelligent beings in the universe". It just stank of "plot induced stupidity". Same as having Cap be the last man standing. I mean, i get the symbolism and all, but it seemed contrived. Overall though it was still awesome. I mean, it had Thanos and a couple of Celestials playing ping pong... with ****ing planets!

Annihilation didn't really have that anti-climatic ending. In fact, the ending was one of the most awesome things ever. Nova ripping out Annihilus insides? Galactus letting off a 4 solar system destroying blast? The showdown between Drax and Thanos? It also had a really great and meaningful death of a superhero in Quasar, which as we all know is a rarity in comics. There was just so many cool, memorable moments. Like Surfer's battles with Ravenous. The heralds fighting the fleet. The destruction of Xandar. Annihilus speed blitzing his own fleet, destroying about a thousand ships in the blink of an eye. Galactus getting captured?!?!?!

Annihilation was just chock full of awesome set pieces and brilliant characterisation that didn't have a hint of "plot induced stupidity". It all just made sense. For me it is the level of which all writers should aspire to when doing big events. Thrills, characterisation and solid story telling.

Civil War was great in concept. But the execution was poor. Changing characters to fit your story, instead of writing the story to fit the characters, giving them NATURAL developments and characterisations.

I mean, the shocking treatment of the New Warriors was... shocking. Making them into inexperienced, arrogant and idiotic idiots just to kick start the story? Well done Mark. And don't get me started on Reed basically telling Sue and Ben to **** off, and Reed, Tony and Hank creating Clor. Tony becoming a borderline facist and full on Emperor Palpatine style manipulator when it came to Peter. Just so much fundamentally bad writing it's not even funny.

your right on

The thing that gets IG more points, is Starlin and Perez....the lead up was also great in SS with Ron Lim art...that's iconic cosmic stuff right there.

But Annihilation was just so bold and reeking of awesomeness.

Anny is tops, but it's not like IG is that far behind.

I also give a bit of mention of INFERNO , which was a well executed cross title event many forget about.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Fall of the Mutants was pretty solid. It was more of an X-Men event that had slight tie-ins to other books. There was a Cap tie-in that had nothing to do with the main story except for Cap running into the Horsemen of the Apocalypse in a mid-western cornfield.

Acts of Vengeance was a pretty simple concept of heroes fighting bad guys outside of their normal rogues gallery. Back then that was rarer than it is now. It was an alliance of villains led by Loki (in disguise) way before anybody ever heard of Norman Osborn and his "Cabal".

When Marvel executed the actual event, it was pure gold. You can go through any comic rack in any LCS on the planet and I guarantee you if it has "Acts of Vengeance" on the cover - it's a tremendous story.

Inferno was almost the big brother of 'Acts'. It was a large scale event that tied into all Marvel titles and every story rocked. But it was an X-Men centric event so the Avengers, Spidey and DD fought hordes of demons not knowing what was really going on. 'Acts' was the opposite, it was Avengers-centric and The X-Men were doing their thing.

I don't know the DD and Spidey tie ins to INFERNO were cool.

In fact if i remember it was an important arc in sidey as Hobgoblin got turned into a real demon.