Sequels Superman Villain in Sequel

[Dangerous]

Its gotta be Braniac.

 

[Superman \S/]

Brainiac and Luthor team up.

 

[The Overlord]

He doesn't.

Thank you for stating the obvious. Again, one of the many aspects of adaptations is taking creative liberties. Seeing as how I think that both Brainiac and the Eradicator should be in a movie, I thought of a way to mix both together.


Nope. It really isn't that Convoluded. Detailed? Sure! The problem is that you assume that for some reason that all of that backstory is going to be jammed into one movie along with a billion other plot points. The First Rule of having detailed plotlines and backstories is to have the Characters explain them at approapriate Times. It's that simple. You are just making things sound more complicated than they really are.



Who hasn't. However, it works in varying degrees. In Action Movies and Comedies, it works to a small degree if you want cheap thrills, lots of action and laughs. Sci-Fi, Fantasy (esp Superhero movies) need more.


Says you?? What the hell do you know about what an audience wants. For starters, you are definately not giving the General Audience much credit at all with you incorrect, uneducated assumption. Second, Predicting the GA tastes as far as I know is an inexact science to begin with. The GA is very unpredictable on many occasions.

The last point: Again, you go with your foolish assumptions.
What sane person would literally throw in a huge backstory and actually showcase on screen?? Are you really that dense?? The whole notion of that backstory is to show some depth for the Villain. The back story would be explained (in part) by him selectively. The rest would be reveal in approapriate times as things progress. That's how you handle detail.

Really?? Care to explain. All of your points are based on really bad assumptions, so I'd like to see a list.

Again that angle is in the works. The fact that you seem to site it as a "Hole" is ludicrous. Your looking at an incomplete work (I haven't even written anything down) as a script draft. I find your logic quite juvenile.
Really?? Personally, I could care less whether you like my concept or not, if that's what you are getting at. That's how the world works. If anything I'm just baffled by how you debate. For someone who is so passionately against my Idea, I would have expected more detail in why you dislike my idea. Then you judge an incomplete concept like a complete one. You recycle point after point again and again. It get's annoying. That combined with your ignorant assumptions gets old. Again, I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, but be on topic when you do.

However, I will say one thing. My Brainiac concept is a bit Much. I know that.
I think that with Movies, risks should be taken. Sticking to a certain status quo makes things get stale. I think that with some refinement that My concept, albeit risky, is a good calculated risk. It's a good mixing of Pre and Post Crisis w/o just cutting and pasting the stories from the comics on film.
Now for STAS, I just didn't like any of it at all for so many reasons. I've posted on it here many a time. It's juvenile writing, full of plot holes, Plot inconsistencies, lousy Villain Portrayals. (Save Luthor and Darkseid) and many other problems I can list on another thread. To me this is the last resource that we should be looking for inspiration for Superman movie storylines. (There is 60 years worth of comics for that)

I'm sick of this, you think your ideaszare so clear and well thought out, I dare you give them their own thread and see how everyone on this board reacts.

 

[newmexneon]

I would like to see Metallo in the sequel and a setup for braniac in the third film.

 

[krisl]

Does anyone know what the clues are in SR that hint at villains in the sequel. This in reference to the producers comments on IESB.

 

[Steelsheen]

Brainiac and Luthor team up.

hell yeah

 

[_Qwerty_]

Braniac and Luthor team up with Metallo as a henchman.

 

[EXCELSIOR]

Braniac and Luthor team up with Metallo as a henchman.

Hey SAPH!

 

[The Kid]

what the hell? no doomsday? I love doomsday.

 

[The Kid]

Returns 2 - Darksied with Metallo sidestory

Reurns 3 - Brainiac summons Doomsday

that's why you're cool sometimes.

 

[Sub-Zero]

if those toys are any indication of the next villain(s) i would'nt mind seeing mongul and or metallo. but i see those two as henchmen not as main villains. darksied and brainiac are far better but i bet we'll end up seeing zod again. how can one man revitalize comic book movies with x-men and single handedly destroy the superman legacy all in a matter of 6 years?

 

[Artistsean]

Heres my idea for the Superman sequal, or somewhere down the line. Maybe the third movie.

Darkseid invades. I think it should include lots of pera demons, and lots of his minions (or at least a few like Kalaback)
I see the city being taken over and Superman actually being completely outmatched (or so it seems).

To get the full Darkseid, they could use the methods they used in Lord of the Rings:
the one used to make Gandolf seem so much bigger than all the other actors.
They could also use a wrestler's body and super impose a great actors head like they did with Gimly.
They could also use the same type of makeup used on Marv in Sin City, and then add in lots of CG and special effects.

He should seem very large, tall and bulky, very massive but not giant. His voice, while being the actor's voice, should be altered a little to give it more other worldyness.

So when Superman finally beats him, after a long battle that makes you think he might actually loose, everyone is so happy that he won and survived.

 

[h0metwnhero]

well
i think braniac is the best route to go. or possibly the eradicator. i dont think doomsday should be used. i mean cmon he was a tool. when he first came out it was to get dc sales out of the crapper. he had no back story or anything. he literally crawled out of a hole and killed superman. worst character intro i have EVER seen. then they tried to clean it up with a kryptonian story.....ugh its garbage. whoever said jason should be engineered into doomsday shouldnt be allowed to post. i mean your taking a character that killed the character....and making him his son? its an idea pulled out of your ass without taking the character into consideration....almost like what singer did by giving him son.
2nd movie-john corbin...small role....gets hurt...foreshadow of him rolling into a super villain.
luthor....not big....plays behind the scenes
braniac via new krypton tech
huge battle
maybe even throw a few punches this time
a probe from a little planet called apokolips passes by
takes notice...lights the way for numero tres
third movie
boom tubes
parademons
kalibak
darkseid
metropolis is taking as a base of operations, lois is taken captive due to her closeness with the man of steel. if hes seen in metropolis...its curtains for her. it would give him a chance to work with the people of metropolis, jimmy olsen and the scu. just something id like to see.
though if warner bros doesnt give them the budget id say hell no. go smaller and just give a damn good story.

 

[larryfilmmaker]

a story with villains teaming up... where say one is a god like Braniac or Darkseid, and his lesser partner is Lex Luthor, might be awesome. Of course, Lex would have to be the master manipulator of it, even over his god-like partner in the end... as that's what Superman stories are about... the limitless potential of even the common man. It'd be a nice, dark spin on that theme to have Lex manipulating things thought to be way beyond man's control.

 

[larryfilmmaker]

I'm all for Darkseid or Bizarro by the way, as I think they best represent stories that need to be told. Braniac is interesting, sure, but he has the worst name ever.


edit: Also, the boy dies and the torch is NOT passed as it should have naturally been. How better to make SUperman relatable to the common man (who loses loved ones and even children to war everyday) than to have him lose a son and fall into a downward spiral. How could Superman handle that? Would he still be there to stop the bank robbers and murderers every day, and would he still be able to live up to his code of honor?

 

[420KIDD]

How About Isiah Washington From "gray's Anatomy"

 

[Super Kal]

please God... BRAINIAC AND LEX

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Braniac and Lex.

 

[GreenKToo]

I dont know guys.I was wanting Brainiac as well,but mild over at the planet pointed something out.The article says superman will face the ultimate villian from the D.C. universe.It said nothing about it being just from superman's rogue,like Brainiac,or Zod.Now who comes to mind as the ultimate villian from D.C.??? unless the writer really knows nothing of superman,I think he is saying Darkseid.

http://iesb.net/index.php?option=co...age=1&category=featured&article=581&Itemid=27

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

Personally, I really don't care to see and hope to God that Brainiac (if introduced in a later movie) is not like the one used in S:TAS or Smallville. I think there are other Villains out there with a Krypton Origin that can be used. I think that Superman Returns can set up the Eradicator. Brainiac should be more faithful to the comic Origins but be a mix of both PreCrisis Brainiac and Post Crisis.

But both PreCrisis and Post Crisis brainaic are a convoluted mess

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

You say that I took the Eradicator and made him Brainiac. The reasons why you are dead wrong are: (from my concept)
1. Brainiac was from Colu and he was from peacful civilization.
2. He wasn't a machine created to preserve His race and destroy others.
He Tries to save his own from an agressive outside force. He's more akin to Jor-El than anyone else.
3. Coluans are Generally Xenophobic, but nonagressive.

Yeah, but comic Brainaic has changed and evolved so many times it's hard to keep up. The STAS didn't create the robotic Brainaic. Remember in the 80's before the Crisis, Brainaic was some robot looking guy flying around in a big robot looking skull ship.

Or that mentalist that was possessed by the spirit of the Colu Alien.

Or the alien computer virus from the future that tries to evolve Metropolis into the world of Tommorrow.

I can go on and on....there's just so many versions of the character.

And in my opinion, I found the whole Colu angle to be the weakest. I find the alien computer Brainaic to be the more realistic creeper versions. More cold and emotionless. You might find that boring, but I find that more chilling. You can't reason with a computer.