Sylar == Good Guy?

Morg said:
Oh her, so far I haven't seen any used of her powers so I have no ideal

Molly(the little girl) hasnt been used since Sylar went after her the second time. Maybe she had the power of invisibility.

But ya Sylar is just plain evil and he knows it. He showed his true side last episode when he was talking to Mr.Bennet and he talked about killing Claire.

He isnt after Heroes who havent accepted their powers, he just wants powers that will be able to benefit him, just like he said to Eden how much her power would benefit him and then she killed herself.
 
Abaddon said:
Not Claire, the little girl whose parents he killed.
I was working off only the people who we had information on. We know nothing about the girl or her parents.
Abaddon said:
Claire is not broken.
Much like Brian Davis, she did not want her power and just wanted a normal life.
Primal Slayer said:
Molly(the little girl) hasnt been used since Sylar went after her the second time. Maybe she had the power of invisibility.

But ya Sylar is just plain evil and he knows it. He showed his true side last episode when he was talking to Mr.Bennet and he talked about killing Claire.

He isnt after Heroes who havent accepted their powers, he just wants powers that will be able to benefit him, just like he said to Eden how much her power would benefit him and then she killed herself.
Eccleston will have invisibility. As for talking about killing Claire. What better way to get a rise out of your captor then to talk about a sensitive subject.
 
Mixairian said:
I was working off only the people who we had information on. We know nothing about the girl or her parents.

Much like Brian Davis, she did not want her power and just wanted a normal life.

He didn't know Claire. He thought Jackie was the one he wanted, and that was just from something he read in the paper.
 
I highly boudt Sylar is going after people who don't want their powers. I mean, he didn't even know who "The Cheerleader" really was until he got to the school. I think he just wants greater power. Simple as that.
 
Mixairian said:
Or perhaps he see's the greater need for Heroes to acknowledge their powers and use them for a greater good. By becoming the embodiment of what most simple folks would call evil, he gathers those forces of good to work together and achieve their destiny.




This is the epitome of over thinking it.
 
Heroes is not a simple show guys. There's symbolism and non-coincidence all around... if you think Sylar is a too dimensional power-hungry villain, yoiu're kidding yourself... I'm sure you can enjoy the show like that, but those that want to read deeper into it will come to common conclusions based on what they've seen on the show, because it's there. If you think HRG, of all people, is an expert on Sylar, then you're just looking for easy answers. I'm after the truth. (Y'know, as far as a fictional show goes).

While Sylar may have a motivation and 'power' to fix things, he is, essentially, going off of the list. And besides, just because Claire wasn't broken to you doesn't mean she wasn't "broken" to Sylar, either by wanting to be normal or whatever. There are few other things that explain why Syalr chose Charlie over Hiro except a battle against "Heroes" that want to be normal.

I can't buy that Sylar is conciously trying to gather the heroes though... that just seems a bit too forward thinking for a guy who works alone and is obessesed with being specal.
 
GL1 said:
I can't buy that Sylar is conciously trying to gather the heroes though... that just seems a bit too forward thinking for a guy who works alone and is obessesed with being specal.



Heroes is not a simple show. There's symbolism and non-coincidence all around... if you think Sylar is a too dimensional power-hungry villain, yoiu're kidding yourself... I'm sure you can enjoy the show like that, but those that want to read deeper into it will come to common conclusions based on what they've seen on the show, because it's there. If you think HRG, of all people, is an expert on Sylar, then you're just looking for easy answers. I'm after the truth. (Y'know, as far as a fictional show goes).
 
lars573 said:
Actually Col. Kurtz was firmly off the deep end. He lost the ability to reason normally. That's the reason he seemed sane and insane, good and evil. He'd gone primal. Kurtz had become a jungle beast that loved literature.
not at all. the army sent Willard (Sheen) to kill Kurtz because they said he had gone "totally insane and that [his] methods were unsound." pay attention to Kurtz' words and to Coppola's use of lighting. Kurtz talks about a snail walking along a razor blade. ("I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight... razor... and surviving.") Sometimes his face is half lit and half in shadow. at the end of that monologue, his face fully slips into the shadows. so he's slipped into insane mode. next time you watch the movie, pay particular attention to that monologue and pay extra attention to the lighting. that division of light is the razor blade. sometimes his face will be fully lit, and he's in sane mode. even the words "dream" and "nightmare" is another deliberate example of the dichotomy, of walking in both worlds. (another quote from Hopper's character, talking about the heads on pikes, "The heads. You're looking at the heads. Sometimes he goes too far. He's the first one to admit it."

another Kurtz quote that's relevant comes from (i think) the same monologue. he's talking about the enemy lopping off the arms of children that were inoculated with the polio vaccine: "You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment."
 
That's not it. Kurtz and Willard are reflections of each other. They've both travelled the same roads and seen the same horrors. But Kurtz has lost himself to the darkness, which symbolizes all the primal violence in the human psyche. Wilard hasn't. Kurtz is a shadow of a man. Hence why Coppola puts him in darkness. It's one of the more overt displays from the basis for the story, Heart if Darkness. In that novel Mr. Kurtz is constantly compared to a shadow and mostly though of in terms of his voice.
 
ragdus said:
Heroes is not a simple show. There's symbolism and non-coincidence all around... if you think Sylar is a too dimensional power-hungry villain, yoiu're kidding yourself... I'm sure you can enjoy the show like that, but those that want to read deeper into it will come to common conclusions based on what they've seen on the show, because it's there. If you think HRG, of all people, is an expert on Sylar, then you're just looking for easy answers. I'm after the truth. (Y'know, as far as a fictional show goes).

I'm confused... did I contradict myself? I don't get it. Seriously.

Though, y'know how in real life when someone says something you said it sounds different and you look at it in a different light. I just realized how arrogant that paragraph sounded... I hope I'm not like that all the time.

Oh gosh, I am aren't I? Dangit... I'll work on that.
 
I love how a whacked out idea can get everyone upset. :)
 
Mixairian said:
I love how a whacked out idea can get everyone upset. :)
that's why we should keep majority of our theories to ourselves and let Heroes do the explaining
 
No way Sylar is clearly evil, and if hes not that would be a disappointment.
I had a question about Sylar though, does he practice cannablism??..I know that sounds random but I dont know how else he could get someone elses powers unless he like ate their brain matter -shivers-
 
If you Kill someone, eat there brain and consume what was inherently given to them.. and they don't do something wrong before hand..

and I'm not talking like cut you off at taco bell's drive thru either.. I mean like, the only that is a heroic thing would be if like... I can't even think of a time that would heroic..
 
He absorbs their power by eating it, sick eh? Or in my opinion yum yum.
 
It was weird. I wonder if the others can do that. Or would want to.
 
I think they could.. I think anyone can do it..
Whole new meaning to the saying "Its all in your head."
 
I agree. But who would want to. They aren't power hungry like Sylar.
 
Other Villians who are crazy?
Idk.. Maybe Claire's dad..
But then again, I'm really starting to like that guy.
 
_N0IR_ said:
Then what does he do with the damn things?

He disects them and figures out how they work. That's his power:huh:
 
Abaddon said:
He disects them and figures out how they work. That's his power:huh:


And that helps him steal there power how?
We don't see any scars on him, so he isn't rewiring himself.
 

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