The Dark Knight TDK too violent says British MP

[TheFuture]

Children under 15 should be barred from cinema screenings of new Batman movie The Dark Knight, a former Home Office minister demanded yesterday.


Labour MP Keith Vaz won't be taking his 11-year-old daughter to see the movie that has a 12A certificate, which means kids under 12 must be with an adult. He said: "There are scenes of gratuitous violence."

In one scene, Batman repeatedly beats the Joker. But the British Board of Film Classification, which has received 80 complaints about the movie, said its 12A decision was justified.

This is ridiculous, jesus, even S-M1 had more risque scenes with violence.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

yea what a jobsworth, i hate um!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kahoot]

80 complaints? That's nothing for the number of folks seeing it.

Also what scenes were more risque in Spider-Man?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

wet t-shirt, bloke getting impaled by 100mph glider,

 

[TheFuture]

wet t-shirt, bloke getting impaled by 100mph glider,

That's it in a nutshell, didn't the mommy's go ape over that one or something?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

silly silly people, i dont understand the fuss. its a friggin movie.

 

["V"]

They have a point. I mean, it's not like there was knife crime in England before The Dark Knight was released; and kids round here never committed violence before. In addition, we need to remove any literature which details violence within its pages. Children should also not be allowed to view the news which often displays graphic and violent scenes twenty-four hours of the day.

 

[Darkfly]

It's not silly, over here Batman '89 & Returns are both 15's, granted Returns has to be a 15 with the whole Penguin biting nose scene since you can't get that in a 12 but '89 when compared to TDK does not deserve its 15 rating. I for one when I saw TDK thought this is the worst (in terms of violence & feel) 12A I've ever seen, & please don't complain if you don't live in the UK or you don't have a good knowledge of the BBFC.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Yeah well not surprising given that they arrest you for verbal threats over there.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

[quote="V";15426946]They have a point. I mean, it's not like there was knife crime in England before The Dark Knight was released; and kids round here never committed violence before. In addition, we need to remove any literature which details violence within its pages. Children should also not be allowed to view the news which often displays graphic and violent scenes twenty-four hours of the day.[/quote]

Are you saying there was no knife crime and youth violence before TDK? you have got to be mad!! this country has been falling apart for a few years now, its nothing to do with movies and games. Its a giant cop out made by the media, its basically shifting blame from the parents to different types of media. Thats why i cant stand all this moaning over it being too violent, it isn't too violent. Its just the media in the UK influences people with a load of BS. Then all these naive parents think "oh no! if our kids play violent games or watch violent films they will be murderers!" what a load of bollox. and this MP has no importance to me, the MPs in England care more about spending money on saving the enviroment than saving its people.

 

[TheFuture]

It's not silly, over here Batman '89 & Returns are both 15's, granted Returns has to be a 15 with the whole Penguin biting nose scene since you can't get that in a 12 but '89 when compared to TDK does not deserve its 15 rating. I for one when I saw TDK thought this is the worst (in terms of violence & feel) 12A I've ever seen, & please don't complain if you don't live in the UK or you don't have a good knowledge of the BBFC.

There is only one "graphic scene" really, Harvey Dent having half of his face set on fire. Batman beating the Joker in the interrogation room was mild, especially considering Spiderman's and the Goblins final fight in S-M1.

The only other scene that I could describe as "too disturbing" for a child's eyes was Two-Face having a gun to a kids head.

 

[TheFuture]

Are you saying there was no knife crime and youth violence before TDK? you have got to be mad!! this country has been falling apart for a few years now, its nothing to do with movies and games. Its a giant cop out made by the media, its basically shifting blame from the parents to different types of media. Thats why i cant stand all this moaning over it being too violent, it isn't too violent. Its just the media in the UK influences people with a load of BS. Then all these naive parents think "oh no! if our kids play violent games or watch violent films they will be murderers!" what a load of bollox. and this MP has no importance to me, the MPs in England care more about spending money on saving the enviroment than saving its people.

I think he was taking the piss man

 

[ord0g]

I can think of a lot of films more violent than TDK that have come out in recent times.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

yea mama mia had scenes of extreme violence, like murdering songs! hoohahahahahahehehehehahahahaheheehehahahahahehehehehahahah

 

[Boba_Fett_123]

Children under 15 should be barred from cinema screenings of new Batman movie The Dark Knight, a former Home Office minister demanded yesterday.


Labour MP Keith Vaz won't be taking his 11-year-old daughter to see the movie that has a 12A certificate, which means kids under 12 must be with an adult. He said: "There are scenes of gratuitous violence."

In one scene, Batman repeatedly beats the Joker. But the British Board of Film Classification, which has received 80 complaints about the movie, said its 12A decision was justified.

This is ridiculous, jesus, even S-M1 had more risque scenes with violence.

I think it's not so much that it's violent, but that, barring one or two small scenes or lines, there's no reprieve from the violence. The movie is brutally intense, and that more than anything I think is the justification. Spider-Man, on the other hand, was much more light-hearted in tone.

 

[TheFuture]

I think it's not so much that it's violent, but that, barring one or two small scenes or lines, there's no reprieve from the violence. The movie is brutally intense, and that more than anything I think is the justification. Spider-Man, on the other hand, was much more light-hearted in tone.

But the MP said the reason he wouldn't bring his daughter is because of scenes of gratuitous violence, not because of the dark tone.

 

[hatebox]

I can think of a lot of films more violent than TDK that have come out in recent times.

Yeah, and were they probably rated 15 or 18.

 

[ForestAflame]

I have no problem with 10 year olds seeing this, let alone 12 or 13. The movie is intense, but kids like intense movies. It's not like it's frightening or graphic.

 

[Batmania]

But the MP said the reason he wouldn't bring his daughter because of scenes of gratuitous violence, not because of the dark tone.

Yeah, did he even watch this film? I didn't see any 'gratuitous' violence. If there was any you can be sure that it wouldn't have gotten that 12A rating. They are pretty strict with the ratings over here. Like someone else said, Batman and Batman Returns were both rated 15 (our equivalent of an R) back in the day. They also gave Sweeney Todd an 18 certificate (our version of an NC-17) recently. I thought that was a pretty harsh rating.

Its funny though... When I went to watch the film this past weekend, at the moment when they reveal Mr. Dent's new face, the girl sat next to me exclaimed loudly, "This is a 12?!" Ha ha.

 

[Two-Face]

TDK should been given 15 rating here.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

I can't recall but were there any instances of people getting head butted in The Dark Knight.

 

[TheFuture]

Yeah, did he even watch this film? I didn't see any 'gratuitous' violence. If there was any you can be sure that it wouldn't have gotten that 12A rating. They are pretty strict with the ratings over here. Like someone else said, Batman and Batman Returns were both rated 15 (our equivalent of an R) back in the day. They also gave Sweeney Todd an 18 certificate (our version of an NC-17) recently. I thought that was a pretty harsh rating.

Its funny though... When I went to watch the film this past weekend, at the moment when they reveal Mr. Dent's new face, the girl sat next to me exclaimed loudly, "This is a 12?!" Ha ha.

Heh heht:

I have seen it twice, and on both occasions there were children there no more than 10. I didn't detect any fear in the air, everybody was just enjoying it for what it was, a fantastic cinematic spectacle.

 

[Eggyman]

You should have to pass a test and have a license to become a parent. 12A

The 'A' is there for a reason.

All this = lazy parenting. They should take a lil responsibility in the matter and take a page from Batman's book: Prep time

 

[hatebox]

It should have been a straight ahead '12' without the A, meaning no-one under 12 could see it at all. It's easy for much older people to say 'oh it's all fine' but there's a reason people are praising Ledger: he's bloody terrifying and the tone of the film is relentlessly menacing.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

AMAZING! This is what I want to hear!