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From what I understand about this "ending"...
The whole "John Blake finding the Suit" scene is not an indication of his subsequent donning of the cowl, but more of a clarifying realization for Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character.
Someone posted on NolanFans (I think) trying to clarify R2's explanation, which he claimed was horribly written. The guy said that, at the end of the film, John Blake is in a despondent and restless state of wanting to know the real story behind Batman. His finding of the Batsuit RISING through the ground is not supposed to be treated as an indication of John Blake's future, but more of a cathartic moment where he finally comes to terms with the true identity/fate of his hero.
If this is the case, (which I'm starting to become more and more certain it is) I would be more than happy with it.
I'm telling you that's off. Not saying how much of it (if not all), but that's not correct.
From what I understand about this "ending"...
The whole "John Blake finding the Suit" scene is not an indication of his subsequent donning of the cowl, but more of a clarifying realization for Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character.
Someone posted on NolanFans (I think) trying to clarify R2's explanation, which he claimed was horribly written. The guy said that, at the end of the film, John Blake is in a despondent and restless state of wanting to know the real story behind Batman. His finding of the Batsuit RISING through the ground is not supposed to be treated as an indication of John Blake's future, but more of a cathartic moment where he finally comes to terms with the true identity/fate of his hero.
If this is the case, (which I'm starting to become more and more certain it is) I would be more than happy with it.
Someone mentioned...
He throws his badge away once the suit rises from it storage place, if that's so then I'd say that's a pretty good indication of what's to come. But this is just speculation upon a rumour, so please don't bite my head off.
Someone mentioned...
He throws his badge away once the suit rises from it storage place, if that's so then I'd say that's a pretty good indication of what's to come. But this is just speculation upon a rumour, so please don't bite my head off.
If...
R2ind's spoiler's are legit, he also confirmed Selina is the one who ultimately ends Bane. So Selina/Catwoman fans will be happy with that one.
Well he also said this (which I think will make you happy):
Bane is a sympathetic villain and that he was Talia's protector. He was punished viciously because he was Talia's guardian at the prison and he trained her so she can escape.
We did get a (kinda) denial from theShape though when I brought up a speculation of mine (not a spoiler but I'll put in spoiler tag) that
Bane will be a sympathetic villain and while he's ruthless, we'll understand where he's coming from and feel sorry for him.
Here's the problem:
You are linking a possibly tender backstory to Bane being a "sympathetic villain". No one should feel sorry for him. He has his motivations, but he is far from sympathetic. Nothing close to Doc Ock in SM2.
Spoilers forum > TDKR Spoilers (read at your own risk) thread
and you want to use spoiler tags on top of it? If people are THAT stupid, they deserve to get spoiled.
I'm telling you that's off. Not saying how much of it (if not all), but that's not correct.
Well he also said this (which I think will make you happy):
Bane is a sympathetic villain and that he was Talia's protector. He was punished viciously because he was Talia's guardian at the prison and he trained her so she can escape.
We did get a (kinda) denial from theShape though when I brought up a speculation of mine (not a spoiler but I'll put in spoiler tag) that
Bane will be a sympathetic villain and while he's ruthless, we'll understand where he's coming from and feel sorry for him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, (and I'm not sure if this was you, Shape, or if it was Scoop)...
But didn't someone state plainly in their reaction to the film something along the lines of - "John Blake is not Robin, nor does he ever don the Batsuit"?
My exact words were:
"John Blake's name is NOT Dick Grayson". Not sure if I said anything regarding the second part.
I'm afraid...
That Bane will indeed be portrayed as the evil dictator-type (which I'm fine with), but with no real acknowledgement to his past and origin, which going by the source material is a quite tragic and sympathetic one.
As for...
Selina being the one to ultimately end Bane, it all hinges on the execution of it for me.
Ideally I would have preferred for the feud/arc between Bruce/Batman and Bane to have been settled and ended between the two of them.
I just hope it's not going to play out with Selina just bursting onto the scene, putting a bullet in Bane and then following up with some cheesy one-liner. I feel a scenario such as that would be a rather lame and 'let-down' type of ending/closure to the Bruce/Batman and Bane arc given how deep, personal and extreme it is being built up to play out like.
Here's the problem:
You are linking a possibly tender backstory to Bane being a "sympathetic villain". No one should feel sorry for him. He has his motivations, but he is far from sympathetic. Nothing close to Doc Ock in SM2.
I think it's possible to have both.
A tragic backstory but he still ends up being brutal and fearsome.