Terminator: Genisys

[The Shape]

Yeah put me in the Salvation is better than T3 camp

Are there really many people who feel differently?

 

[Kane52630]

Apparently. If you look at the previous threads and whatnot, there's a few.

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah put me in the Salvation is better than T3 camp, at least with Salvation it tried to do something new and not repeat the same scenes from the previous films.

Gods honest truth, T3 was just a remake of Judgement Day, only with a s***ty sense of humor and slapstick-y, overly CG'd action sequences.

Salvation really wasn't anything special, but at least it wasn't that.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I think T3 and Salvation are both fairly bad films, but I'll give Salvation credit for at least trying to do something different instead of going the "send Arnie back in time again" route.

 

[MrMaooz]

T3>Salvation.

 

[DarKush]

I don't think it was his absence that doomed Salvation. It could have worked without him but they made a mess of the script so even his inclusion wouldn't save it.

I mostly agree with this. I don't think the problem with Salvation was the lack of Arnold. I think the problem was they didn't follow through with the original story they had once the spoilers got out and they caught some heat. And they did a shoddy job of redoing the story instead of just starting from scratch with something new, IMO.

I thought the time frame was cool for Salvation and would finally give the fans the Future War we had been teased with for three films. I also thought Christian Bale was good casting for John Connor. Finally a Connor I could see leading humanity in its fight against the machines. Of course that was until I actually saw the film and what a poor job Bale did with the character. I don't know if it was him or the direction, but he was way too remote, from what I remember. Plus they had him too far down on the totem pole. And the film wasn't really about him anyway, it was about Sam Worthington's character, which probably was a mistake. The focus should've been more on John and Kyle.

 

[DarKush]

T3>Salvation.

Terminator 3 vs. Salvation? This is a hard one, but I'm going with Terminator 3. That ending was awesome. It totally sold me on the movie.

 

[Sawyer]

T3>Salvation.

Get back to us once you've gotten out of the sixth grade.

 

[MrMaooz]

Terminator 3 vs. Salvation? This is a hard one, but I'm going with Terminator 3. That ending was awesome. It totally sold me on the movie.

I loved the car chase. So destructive and awesome.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

As a film eventhough it was just a much worst version of T2 I found T3 to be better than Salvation. And I hate saying that because I would have liked an actual good future set film over a T2 ripoff.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I mostly agree with this. I don't think the problem with Salvation was the lack of Arnold. I think the problem was they didn't follow through with the original story they had once the spoilers got out and they caught some heat. And they did a shoddy job of redoing the story instead of just starting from scratch with something new, IMO.

I thought the time frame was cool for Salvation and would finally give the fans the Future War we had been teased with for three films. I also thought Christian Bale was good casting for John Connor. Finally a Connor I could see leading humanity in its fight against the machines. Of course that was until I actually saw the film and what a poor job Bale did with the character. I don't know if it was him or the direction, but he was way too remote, from what I remember. Plus they had him too far down on the totem pole. And the film wasn't really about him anyway, it was about Sam Worthington's character, which probably was a mistake. The focus should've been more on John and Kyle.

Yeah, I don't think it was Bale himself; it was the fact that the movie wasn't really about him, and it should have been. I didn't give a crap about Marcus Wright before, during or after the movie. I don't understand when they decided to make that character the focal point of the story and relegated Connor to just being a guy listening to tapes of his mother and stating the obvious, "If my father dies, I won't exist" or some other crap. Terrible writing, piss-poor direction, etc.

That said, I still hated T3 more. Nick Stahl was AWFUL as John Connor. Good God, I think bloated and repulsive adult Eddie Furlong would have been better than him. Who in their right mind would ever follow that guy into battle?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I thought Stahl was quite bad and wildly miscast. That was Shia in Transformers ******** not John Connor.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, he really was terrible. Hopefully Jason Clarke finally gives us a John Connor we can believe in, but I have my doubts after two misfires in a row.

 

[dark_b]

if i understand Cameron he advised them to make the movie more about Arnold than Sarah and John ?

 

[Doc Ock]

While I thought Salvation was alright and something I enjoy watching (forget T3) it sure wasn't as good as what came in the beginning but for some reason I have a lot of faith and excitement in this "reboot". I'm not sure why but I feel this could end up being as good as the original two films. Maybe it's the cast, or my love with time travel stories but I think this at worst will end up being okay.

 

[GothamAlleys]

I think Salvation's problem was that it was too far removed from what we thought Terminator would be (the desert-only setting, the evened out forces), and it felt, along with the storyline, direction and score, a bit like a comic book superhero flick. Its watchable as that, but just shouldnt bear that title

T3 on the other hand was just a goofy spoofy inconsistent mess, but , without the brain on, as a pure comedy-action it was watchable too

 

[Zantera]

I'm not a fan of either T3 or Salvation, but I would vote T3 every day of the week for Arnold alone.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Also Salvation should have kept Brad Fidel's Terminator theme music as the film wasn't a reboot. If it's connected to the old series keep the damn original music.

 

[Tanin]

a rating

Umm..
Terminator>T2: DC>T2>T3>Salvation

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I think Arnold looks good. Is there an official plot synopsis out yet?

 

[Brian Braddock]

I may be in the minority, but I think Arnold looks pretty sharp.

I agree. He looks better than he has in years.

 

[GothamAlleys]

I think Arnold looks good. Is there an official plot synopsis out yet?

Its gonna be like Back To The future, with the characters seeing the events of the first two movies happening, plus some subplot in the future

 

[Octoberist]

I enjoyed T3 more than Salvation, but that's like comparing a polish piece of poo to a unpolished piece of poo. The saving grace of T3 is the ending but the movie looks like a 90's TV film, Nick Stahl was not a good John Connor, the TX fails to be as menacing as the T-1000; the score is generic, and the list goes on.

 

[Hurm...]

I'm not quite sure I've seen a polished piece of poo.

 

[Octoberist]

Try it out, and then you'll end up with a copy of a T3 Blu-Ray.