Terror attack in Copenhagen

To be fair, isn't that what most protest is?

Certainly seems like it to me. When they protested Piss Christ, the attempt was to have it removed from the exhibit. Is that not attempting to suppress someone else's expression?

Pretty much. Just means I don't agree with the majority of protests as they usually try their hand at that kind of leverage.

Instead of offering their own message they try to snuff out messages they don't like.

I find it misguided for the most part.
 
There's Christian terrorists. Jewish terrorists. Hindu terrorists. Hell, even Buddhist terrorists in Myanmar (that surprised me!).


The world needs agnostic terrorists. Their chief weapon is confusion.
 
Agnostic terrorists are political terrorists. Or commies. :o


To be an agnostic terrorist, you have to commit violence in the name of agnosticism. To attack anybody who is sure about the existence of or non-existence of a god.

"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty." :argh:
 
I guess the closest thing would be the nihilists from 'The Big Lebowski.' They terrorized the dude.

EDIT: Oops, I guess that doesn't really pertain to your example. Sorry, I'm multi-tasking. :o
 
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Pretty much. Just means I don't agree with the majority of protests as they usually try their hand at that kind of leverage.

Instead of offering their own message they try to snuff out messages they don't like.

I find it misguided for the most part.

Exactly. Moderate protesters just present a message and encourage debate to change points of view. Its the nutty element who insist that others be silenced on the grounds that their views are offensive.
 
And there was the foiled plot in Belgium. And let's not forget London and Madrid in years past. Be warned, I'm about to go on a bit of a rant….

America doesn't have an extremist Islamic problem (or at least not anymore; we did a good job cleaning house after 9/11). But Europe certainly does. This isn't about ordinary Muslims, but the unassimilated, radicalized Wahhabists in their midst. The radicalized extremists are a minority, and of course no one should blame ordinary Muslims for the attacks like those extremist-right parties do in Germany; but on the other hand, I also get sick of the false equivalences some on the left use to try to deny this problem exists by bringing up the fact that Christian shooters also exist. Yes, but they're lone nuts who are shunned by everyone, even fellow political/religious extremists; the problem with radical Islamic terror acts is they are condoned by fellow extremists and seen as justified, such as attacking cartoonists for depicting Muhammed. After the terror attack in Paris, they were discussing on the news about there being 8,000 people on a terror watch-list in France. The thing was there wasn't enough police presence to monitor all of them, so the brothers in that attack slipped through the net. So if you can't monitor them all, why not just deport those on the list back to their native countries (or if they're second-generation/naturalized, place them under house arrest)? I'm sorry but if you're on a terror watch-list, you did something to get on there. I think Europe has to get tougher with its immigration and national security, I think good, law-abiding Muslims (the vast majority) have to confront and report those they suspect of radicalization in their community, and I think people need to be more honest about the cause of all this instead of dismissing them as isolated criminal incidents and getting defensive and evasive when others point out the obvious. Or else nothing will change.
We have human rights conventions and laws that mean you can't just lock up someone under house arrest unless they have committed a crime.

The British Government tried to deport a extremist back to the middle east and it turned into a legal mine field. It took a years and some international political deals just to extradite his ass out of the country.

Getting Europeans to deal with immigration and border control is a non-starter also.

We have open movement policy for EU citizens which makes it easy for anyone with a EU passport to travel unchecked across the continent.

Parts of the Turkish border are open. Turkey is the gateway between Europe and the Middle East which is why so many terrorists are going though Turkey to join ISIL.

I really think this is just the tip of the iceberg.

I grew up in Europe, and America, and the difference is quite stark. Most Muslims in America openly embrace the culture. But in Europe, it's a different story. In some places it's like a parallel society coexisting in the state.

The stuff on Fox News about "no go zones" was obviously an exaggeration, but not without some truth. Take the sex gang rings in Oxford, Rotherham, Rochdale, Derby, etc. For those not familiar with those controversies, they were sex slavery rings operated in Muslim communities in said English cities, and largely ignored by police because they were in Muslim communities.

I think a lot of it has to do with socioeconomics too.

A lot of went down in The Rochadale, Rotherham, ect was allowed to happen partly because the authorities were afraid of ruffling some feathers in the Muslim community. The other part was the the all too common disbelief of rape victims with troubled backgrounds culture we have in society.

I also feel Americans are far more up front about the indoctrination of people into their culture. This in part has too do with being a nation made up of immigrants making it historical a necessity.
 
I also feel Americans are far more up front about the indoctrination of people into their culture. This in part has too do with being a nation made up of immigrants making it historical a necessity.


Americans also have a stronger argument backing them up.

Welcome to the United States of America!

I will never assimilate into your culture!

Please accept this complimentary chicken-fried steak, Maxim magazine and Walking Dead Blu-ray set. Also, the Superbowl comes on in an hour.

Uh, "we the people ..."
 
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Americans also have a stronger argument backing them up.

Welcome to the United States of America!

I will never assimilate into your culture!

Please accept this complementary chicken-fried steak, Maxim magazine and Walking Dead Blu-ray set. Also, the Superbowl comes on in an hour.

Uh, "we the people ..."

I would take everything except for the Superbowl. Try as I might I just can't get into armored catch
 
Only a bunch of sickos kill people because they don't enjoy satire. I feel if you don't like satire, you don't read it. Even if it's disgusting and bigoted you don't kill people over it. I'm not going even begin to defend such people.
 
My thoughts and prayers are with the two victims and their families :csad::hrt:


In Memory of Dan Uzan - He was a volunteer guard outside the Copenhagen Synagogue. He was 37 years old.

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In Memory of Finn Noergaard- He was a 55 year old filmmaker who was the second one to die from the attack.

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