The Winter Soldier The Action Sequences Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[nocomics]

Had to go with the Tanker-Hostage rescue it was well done, and a showdown with GSP(George St. Pierre for all you non-UFC peeps)!

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Hard to say which action sequence was my favorite since they were all pretty well done. I think it's probably a tie between the opening tanker scene and the causeway scene.

 

[the dmg]

The shield in general was utilized greatly in the film. It had a lot of people talking about how awesome the shield was after the movie ended.

 

[storyteller]

First and foremost. I wish this thread was half "Batman sucks". That being said, Batman fighting style is far less flash in general. He's a brawler and uses stealth.

Much better then Cap 1 though. This is a super soldier.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I have to disagree with the many that say the second and last Cap/WS fight is underwhelming. I thought, choreography wise it was just as stunning as the first, not to mention the emotionality of what the fight represented coming to a climax just added to it.

 

[The Endless]

Their final fight wasn't edited as well though, in my view. A bit more choppy.

I think i'm kinda leaning towards the elevator fight now. That is how you choreography chaos. Beautifully brutal. And the way it builds, cranking up that tension. Yes, this is how you do action scenes.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

First and foremost. I wish this thread was half "Batman sucks". That being said, Batman fighting style is far less flash in general. He's a brawler and uses stealth.

Much better then Cap 1 though. This is a super soldier.

Yeah but if Batman fought how he was supposed to fight in the movies, we'd see something amazing. Like what we saw from Cap in TWS. God, that was beautiful.

I have a feeling we'll see that badass Batman in 2016, and people will finally see and love the ideal version just like what we got from Cap.

 

[ThreadPool]

I gotta say, this had the best mix of well done action for me.
Usually I say Nolan's chases can't be touched, but these were very close. Maybe just not having as big a scale. And the shaky cam was barely there. Always a plus.
Hand to hand "street level" stuff was great. Also, barely any shaky cam.
To me it's great that we've been able to see nearly perfect large scale one to one superpowered fights in MoS, amazingly staged and shot vehicular action in the TDK trilogy, and now, the best mix of hand to hand and vehicle chases I've seen with TWS. Can't wait to see this again. Then I might be able to choose.
Especially since some of the opening action was obscured by the dark 3D.

 

[yllum]

I have to disagree with the many that say the second and last Cap/WS fight is underwhelming. I thought, choreography wise it was just as stunning as the first, not to mention the emotionality of what the fight represented coming to a climax just added to it.

I think the last fight wasn't that amazing..but the emotionality conjured was off the roof..when steve said " I not going to fight u, you are my friend " love it..and of course the " till end of the line "

 

[peterparker0077]

Hey all, I'm trying to find the short clip or giff that showed Cap doing that back flip kick on Batroc... I've been looking for over an hour but no luck. Anyone have it handy? Thanks!

 

[TalismanRing]

I'll say the freeway chase because it's inventive, filled with tension & thrills and has several different encounters and peaks. But if you combined the elevator brawl with the escape and take down of the jet that might be my favorite.

I don't think there was an action scene that fell flat or disappointed, or more importantly dragged on too long which is what many wind up doing. Even the big action at the end didn't feel bloated to me since it was interspersed with the Pierce take-down and the more emotional and intimate fight/encounter with Steve and WS.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I loved every action sequence

1. Cap vs. The Winter Solider round 1
2. Stealth Cap & Widow aboard the ''Lemurian Star'', / Cap vs. Batroc
3. Battle on the triple Insight carriers / Cap vs. Winter Soldier round 2
4. Elevator fight Cap vs. Strike unit
5. Cap vs. Quinjet
6. Fury's car chase

 

[hafizbat]

I loved every action sequence

1. Cap vs. The Winter Solider round 1
2. Stealth Cap & Widow aboard the ''Lemurian Star'', / Cap vs. Batroc
3. Battle on the triple Insight carriers / Cap vs. Winter Soldier round 2
4. Elevator fight Cap vs. Strike unit
5. Cap vs. Quinjet
6. Fury's car chase

Each one of those sequences have to be considered some of the best action pieces we have seen in ANY comic book film. TWS gave us 6 of them t:.

It's gonna be fascinating to see how they top TWS in Cap 3...if that's even possible.

 

[DN91]

My rankings:

1. Cap vs. Winter Soldier on the freeway
2. STRIKE raid on the ship
3. Cap's elevator fight
4. Final attack on Insight Helicarriers
5. Cap escapes the Triskelion
6. Car chase

 

[Quasimod0]

I loved when Cap did that crazy knee slam on WS when he was against the car.
That gets me every time

 

[seishin87]

I voted for the ending Helicarrier battle, that's my favorite action sequence from the film. I like how they have essentially several battles going on with Cap/Falcon on the Helicarriers, Widow/Fury vs. Pierce, and Winter Soldier making his way into the fight and then final confrontations Fury/Pierce, Cap/WS, and Falcon/Rumlow. I remember I voted the ending battle from TFA as my favorite in final action scene poll in the Marvel Films forum. The setting and some of the action echos the flying wing stuff in TFA, Cap vs. The HYDRA aircrew in TFA and WS vs. The SHIELD groundcrew in TWS (Both scenes even feature a propeller/engine kill) and then the final confrontation vs. Steve/Buckey in the control center of the Helicarrier somewhat parallels the fight between Cap/Red Skull on the flying wing as far as the whole high altitude/top of the world setting. As far as which main event fight was better, Red Skull vs. Winter Soldier, it's no question the fight with WS. Even though we didn't get to see most of the Falcon/Rumlow fight I thought his comeuppance was brutal and satisfying. Over all it felt like a classic action/adventure climatic sequence, something you'd get from the older Bond films, even some of the Brosnan entries that I have a soft spot for.

As far as what was the best self-contained action scene in the movie, I would say The freeway chase, Cap/WS round 1. It's a really well done action sequence. The earlier chase with Fury is another one. Hell the action scenes are well done, The elevator escape and taking down the quinjet. If any action scene was a little underwhelming, it was the conclusion of the opening boat sequence. the fight with Batroc was well done, although it seems like Cap was pulling his punches. The ending was just kinda abrupt and it didn't leave as big an impression that I was expecting. Perhaps that's not such a bad thing. One of the few problems I would say I had with stuff like Skyfall, and other Bond/ or even the new Star Trek's it feels like they put all the big over the top climatic stuff at the beginning or first act so some of the later action kinda feels underwhelming. So I guess in a round about way the opening here is perhaps wisely underplayed a bit.

It's not really an action scene but I liked how the Bunker scene was kinda a throw back to the old school Bond Movie deathtrap troupe. I love pulpy stuff like that. Always happy to see the filmmakers include stuff like that. I wonder what kind of action we could expect from Cap 3? Maybe another propeller/engine/turbine kill at some point for good luck lol. I wouldn't have any complaints about another high altitude/aerial based climax again if they can come up with a good idea(spacecraft?), although maybe for the sake of variety they could have a ground based climax, might limit how much Falcon would be used. Or perhaps rather than an aircraft, a mountain top or tall building? Maybe an underground type base/lair/facility? I wouldn't mind seeing the Omega Base from Marvel Ultimate Alliance adapted, perhaps a shuttered underground SHIELD lab that can go rise up and go mobile on massive tank threads. If you've read the unproduced Indy 3/Monkey king script or are aware of it you'll know about the giant tank that was in that story. Would have been absurd from Indy(it became the tank scene from Last Crusade) but I could something like that working with Cap or Avengers, although Omega Base is even larger than the tank depicted in the Monkey King script. I know Kevin Feige was a producer on MUA so maybe we might see the Omega Base at some point as a nod to that.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'll say the freeway chase because it's inventive, filled with tension & thrills and has several different encounters and peaks. But if you combined the elevator brawl with the escape and take down of the jet that might be my favorite.

I don't think there was an action scene that fell flat or disappointed, or more importantly dragged on too long which is what many wind up doing. Even the big action at the end didn't feel bloated to me since it was interspersed with the Pierce take-down and the more emotional and intimate fight/encounter with Steve and WS.

I thought about combing them in truth, maybe I should have lol, they just seemed to be very distinctly individual in the film as opposed to running directly into one and other.

Agreed, it was cut like the classic big final actions sequences in the Star Wars films, so you were following more than one persona and there was a a variety of action going on.

Each one of those sequences have to be considered some of the best action pieces we have seen in ANY comic book film. TWS gave us 6 of them t:.

It's gonna be fascinating to see how they top TWS in Cap 3...if that's even possible.

That's a great point, usually if you get a couple of action sequences of this caliber per movie it's a win, to get this many was a amazing!