Animation The Adventures of Tintin - Part 1

[JAK®]

That does not change the nature of the stories. Tintin is intended to appeal to an age group younger then that of the original Indy series. Raiders and Temple have some seriously gruesome stuff.

I just don't think it's fair to describe Tintin as 'lite' anything.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You mo-cap standard/normal movements and animate the rest. What exactly is so difficult?

In the case of Dragon Ball, you mo-cap nothing then.

I'm really having trouble understanding your issue here. This newfound method that Spielberg has utilized is a literal living cartoon. If you were pleased with the animated incarnations, I'm utterly confused at your disdain towards what is essentially an extended evolution of that medium. There is nothing in the shows that cannot be achieved in this format. This is any animated fan's dream technology.

Cartoons are living and in many cases full of more life then their live action counterparts. That is what makes them so enjoyable and endearing.

I see no point in this animation style with something like DB, the Simpsons or Spongebob. Why would I want something more akin to "real life"?

In that the art style is the same, except added dimension with a tangibility that gives it life. It most certainly doesn't detract from it.

What life needs to be added to Dragon Ball?

I may be confused here but if the art style is exactly the same, why would they use this tech? What in the world would be added?

 

[spidey-dude]

okay here my non linked review of the film:

Tintin is Spielberg’s latest action packed romp fit for all the family. The film has been in development for a good many years using motion capture technology made famous by Robert Zemericks, but Tintin is a long way off the glassy-eyed uncanny valley efforts seen previously. Many people have perhaps wondered why Spielberg and Jackson chose to use motion capture ahead of live action and the reason is simple, not only are they able to present stylised characters true to Hergé's original designs but also feature fun over the top action which would simply come across as cheesy in a live action affair. The film is quite simply stunning to look at and the 3D never felt tacky and was there to supplement the superb CGI. There’s a playful humour littered throughout the film, which treads the line between serious and fun perfectly without feeling too forced or ridiculous.

Combining the stories of The Crab with the Golden Claws, The Secret of the Unicorn and Red Rackham's Treasure, the film depicts Tintin's (Jamie Bell) first encounter with Captain Haddock (Andy Serkis) as they race against the dastardly Sakharine (Daniel Craig) to discover the truth behind Sir Francis Haddoque and the legend of The Unicorn.

The film quickly kicks into high gear and rarely lets up, it truly is an adventure film from the get go, with not a dull moment in sight. The only problem I had with this was that I felt it perhaps caused some characterisation to suffer a bit, with Tintin’s motivations perhaps lacking at times. Despite this the protagonists have a charm and likeability which has you rooting for them the whole way through, and I am glad that they avoided the origin root so many films go for with Tintin’s backstory being told quickly and succinctly through framed newspaper articles.

As for the voice cast, Jamie Bell puts in a great performance as Tintin, whilst Nick Frost and Simon peg bring their comedic A-game to bumbling detectives Thompson and Thomson. However it is Andy Serkis’ turn as the drunkard Sea Captain Haddock who really steals the show with a truly inspired performance.

The real star of the film is Snowy, Tintin’s canine companion, who not only bails our heroes out of trouble (and near death) on several occasions but also puts Batman’s detective skills to shame more than once. The film doesn’t end on a quiff hanger as such (I am so terribly sorry but I couldn’t resist one hair related pun) but sets the scene for Jackson’s sequel and definitely leaves you wanting more.

It might not be Spielberg’s greatest piece of cinematic work (I’m not even going to begin to think about what is) but once again he has brought something new to the cinematic table and shown why he is arguably the greatest director of the last 30 years. Will the film win any Oscars? Probably not (well maybe for visual effects) but it is a great fun action film for all the family with more than a twang of classic Indiana Jones in there, it really is a true comic book movie, and dare I say it possibly my CBM of the year (sorry Matthew Vaughn).

4.5 (out of 5)

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I just don't think it's fair to describe Tintin as 'lite' anything.

This film's has encouraged me to the pick up the original work. I have enjoyed it quite a bit. The lite comment wasn't meant to degrade the work at all.

 

[Crockett]

so I wrote a proper review of Tintin if you want to read it click HERE
I'm happy to answer any questions too


EDIT: okay I cannot link to it because the forum seems to have a vendetta against CBM's website

Darth i think the style would work well for a big screen dragonball adventure (and I agree dragonball not Z is definitely the story worth telling on the big screen)

I've read your review, real good and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've got no choice but to watch it in 3D when it comes out here but since you mentioned that it doesn't feel tacky it left me being optimistic watching it in 3D. How was the score by the way, was it Indiana Jones-esque?

 

[KRIM]

In the case of Dragon Ball, you mo-cap nothing then.

It's not just motion, the whole point with this new tech is that it captures emotion of the actor as well. Voice acting has as its own perks, but I will always appreciate full performances as it the actor is more involved with their character.

Cartoons are living and in many cases full of more life then their live action counterparts. That is what makes them so enjoyable and endearing.

I see no point in this animation style with something like DB, the Simpsons or Spongebob. Why would I want something more akin to "real life"?

Completely subjective question. I'm sure there are readers out there who prefer their comic book characters to remain on the page. I can't apply my own desires to them.

What life needs to be added to Dragon Ball?

I may be confused here but if the art style is exactly the same, why would they use this tech? What in the world would be added?

I just told you. Dimension and tangibility. The nature of photography alone is exponentially strengthened when imagery pops with life. Again, this movie is full of those examples. Compare any of the directly translated panels and you can clearly see the benefits.

The more potent question would be what is taken away? Is it distracting? Is it an inferior means of realizing the art?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's not just motion, the whole point with this new tech is that it captures emotion of the actor as well. Voice acting has as its own perks, but I will always appreciate full performances as it the actor is more involved with their character.

That is the thing, the character of Goku has never been down to the performance of an actor. Goku's character and emotion has already been created by the animation and voice acting.

It is the same for the likes of Spongebob, Wall-E, Homer, and countless others.

Completely subjective question. I'm sure there are readers out there who prefer their comic book characters to remain on the page. I can't apply my own desires to them.

But we are talking about a property with a long history of being on film. Most of the world knows DBZ in its animated form first and foremost.

I just told you. Dimension and tangibility. The nature of photography alone is exponentially strengthened when imagery pops with life. Again, this movie is full of those examples. Compare any of the directly translated panels and you can clearly see the benefits.

And I don't see how that would help a Dragon Ball film.

 

[KRIM]

That is the thing, the character of Goku has never been down to the performance of an actor. Goku's character and emotion has already been created by the animation and voice acting.

It is the same for the likes of Spongebob, Wall-E, Homer, and countless others.

But we are talking about a property with a long history of being on film. Most of the world knows DBZ in its animated form first and foremost.

These don't seem like very convincing counterpoints. All I'm seeing is "this is what's been done, what's worked, and that's that". Preference for a particular medium and method is your right, but they're not valid arguments against pushing the boundaries.

And I don't see how that would help a Dragon Ball film.

Aesthetics have no role whatsoever? Perhaps DB works better in a novella format. Nothing can beat a reader's own imagination, after all.

 

[spidey-dude]

I've read your review, real good and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've got no choice but to watch it in 3D when it comes out here but since you mentioned that it doesn't feel tacky it left me being optimistic watching it in 3D. How was the score by the way, was it Indiana Jones-esque?

The score was good, no memorable tune to hum, and I was a bit dissapointed that the theme wasnt incorporated from the old tv show (especially in the opening credits which themselves really reminded me of catch me if you can's opening)

 

[Crockett]

The score was good, no memorable tune to hum, and I was a bit dissapointed that the theme wasnt incorporated from the old tv show (especially in the opening credits which themselves really reminded me of catch me if you can's opening)

Loved the theme for the 90's cartoon, sucks it's not in the movie but it's understandable. Was there any cameos from any other characters in the comics, like Castafiore for an example and just to clarify, does Craig voiced both Sakharine and Red Rackham?

 

[Secret Fawful]

Dragonball in it's entirety is every Hong Kong wuxia martial arts film from the beginning to the present condensed into one compact story. If you employed wuxia techniques and choreography and martial arts and such corresponding to each proper section of the manga, it might be possible to do it with motion capture. But to be honest, I don't see why it should be done. What makes Dragonball great and meaningful is that it is all of these important genres condensed into manga/animated form.

Motion capture works best when it's used to bring characters to the screen who are themselves only slight exaggerations of reality. Examples of what would work best: Tintin, Scooby Doo, The Jetsons, The Flintstones, Popeye, Batman, and maybe Futurama-

Examples of what wouldn't work well: Merrie Melodies, Mickey Mouse, Adventure Time, Tom and Jerry, Animaniacs, and anything else that would cause uncanny valley through its extremely exaggerated features.

 

[spidey-dude]

Loved the theme for the 90's cartoon, sucks it's not in the movie but it's understandable. Was there any cameos from any other characters in the comics, like Castafiore for an example and just to clarify, does Craig voiced both Sakharine and Red Rackham?

craig definitely voiced Sakharine, and sounded like he voiced Red Rackham too

Herge has a nice cameo at the very begining (at least I assume its Herge, I dont know what he looked like) and I think that there are some chracter cameos in that scene - but its been so long since I have watched tintin (I have the boxset so will prob rewatch them soon)

 

[obin_gam]

Hows the end credits? Or rather, is it worth sitting through them?

 

[spidey-dude]

Hows the end credits? Or rather, is it worth sitting through them?

I didnt sit through them

 

[obin_gam]

hehe, I always do, but my friends tend to nag everytime I go with them. If there are stuff during or after I dont get as much of naggin against me :P

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Has anyone seen this awesome fan-made opening credits for The Adventures of Tintin?

I loved that it includes the theme from tv-series and elements from all 24 books.

 

[terry78]

So the consensus is that this thing is pretty good then?

 

[BestGirl]

Has this 15 minute behind-the-scenes vid been posted yet? A nice evolution from what Avatar innovated. Really can't wait for this film. Spielberg and Jackson may have found a medium in which big-budget tales can be told, without having to worry about live action logistics.

That video was incredible. I've never seen mocap being made before. I always figured the actors just stood in a booth and recorded their lines. Acting using stripped down sets like that must be tough.

 

[spidey-dude]

Has anyone seen this awesome fan-made opening credits for The Adventures of Tintin?

I loved that it includes the theme from tv-series and elements from all 24 books.

not as good as the actual animated credits imo although I do like the use of the 90's theme wish it had been used in the movie

 

[spidey-dude]

hehe, I always do, but my friends tend to nag everytime I go with them. If there are stuff during or after I dont get as much of naggin against me :P

I was with a friend but also as it was the first multimedia screening worldwide the theatre was PACKED and its an old theatre converted to a cinema so easily had over 1000 people in there

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

not as good as the actual animated credits imo although I do like the use of the 90's theme wish it had been used in the movie

I've heard that the opening credit sequence is very Saul Bass-esque. Is that true? If not, how would you best describe it?

 

[spidey-dude]

I've heard that the opening credit sequence is very Saul Bass-esque. Is that true? If not, how would you best describe it?

yeah it is, a bit smoother and less jaggedy than Bass but an animated Saul Bass is a good description, quite similar to catch me if you can's intro but with a broader colour scheme

it's very cool

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Thanks, it sounds great.

 

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[dark_b]

2 weeks. i am shaking