The Adventures of Tintin

[Octoberist]

I seem to remember Avatar mostly being publicized as a "performance capture" movie and don't remember the WETA animators being mentioned that much. Hopefully, the situation here is similar and Spielberg is using the talents of the animators to make the mocap look better.

That's...true.

I don't ever remember Cameron mentioning WETA at all, actually. Which is typical of him. (Talented guy and I love him but Cameron is so..self-centered)

 

[dark_b]

Cameron didnt mention WETA 100 times when talking how they were the ones who made the navi look alive when they moved and talked?

excuse me????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[Timstuff]

For however much ego Cameron has he usually does a good job of giving his effects guys credit. Cameron comes from a design and effects background himself, after all.

 

[redhawk23]

Not in approach though, unfortunately. They are still trying to have performance actors do the job of animators who for many years have been honing their skill in the area of making animated characters move. Mocap will never look as good as hand-done animation, because the only way you can get stylized motion necessary for cartoons is to do it manually. If you have real people trying to move like cartoons, or even worse, just acting as they would in live action, it's always going to look more dull and robotic than real animation. This movie frustrates me because it looks like it could have been something special if they weren't wasting it on motion capture.

we have seen no movement from this film. all we can judge now is purely the image, for which IMHO the tech has improved.

 

[Timstuff]

It's kind of like McDonalds, though... Their technology may keep improving, but that doesn't change that their ingredients still suck.

 

[dark_b]

all the guys at weta said that the avatars results were so good because of the animators job at fixing problems and the RIG. the rig. they rigged those faces for months.
we know that they filmed this movie last year before Avatar. so they had more then 1 year for rigging. this is good.

 

[spider-neil]

Cameron didnt mention WETA 100 times when talking how they were the ones who made the navi look alive when they moved and talked?

excuse me????????????????????????????????????????????

you listen to cameron's interviews and he makes it sound like 100% of the peformance was done by performance capture which is rubbish it's more like 80%,

hands
ears
tails
all hand animated

plus there is motion capture data clean up.

 

[dark_b]

you listen to cameron's interviews and he makes it sound like 100% of the peformance was done by performance capture which is rubbish it's more like 80%,

hands
ears
tails
all hand animated

plus there is motion capture data clean up.

i watched every interview about Avatar that was ever realesed. and i am 100% sure that he always always mentioned how the tails,ears and fingers wre hand animated.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

I read the article in Empire today, a very nice read. Makes me even more excited for this flick.

 

[Darkness Falls]

the pics look good, can't wait for a trailer
this is how a popeye movie should be made

 

[Secret Fawful]

Uh, as far as I read Snowy is being hand animated. He's completely CGI, no motion capture. So it stands to reason hand animation is being used in the film.

 

[Lone]

is this an opinion?

It's a fact.

 

[Timstuff]

I was watching bonus features for Avatar the other day, and it kind of annoyed me how James Cameron kept using the "performance capture" buzzword to describe the mocap in the movie, and how he and the actors emphasized that it was the actors performing through a computer without making much mention of the actual animators who spent months cleaning up and refining the mocap data and rigging the characters to actually move like believable creatures.

But then Joe Letteri showed up and fixed all that, so all's right in the world once again.

 

[matrix_ghost]

I was watching bonus features for Avatar the other day, and it kind of annoyed me how James Cameron kept using the "performance capture" buzzword to describe the mocap in the movie, and how he and the actors emphasized that it was the actors performing through a computer without making much mention of the actual animators who spent months cleaning up and refining the mocap data and rigging the characters to actually move like believable creatures.

But then Joe Letteri showed up and fixed all that, so all's right in the world once again.

Well i guess they both have their people to"give credit to. Not dissing the work of animators , but the director is there with the actors constantly. Whereas Joe is the one working with the animators constantly. ANd i can see why Cameron putting emphasis on what the actors have done because there is still that belief that the actors aren't doing much in mo-cap flicks. Its the animators who bring the characters to life. At least that is the general consensus amongst people who aren't familiar with this type of filmmaking.

I think it was in an previous EMPIRE interview where Spielberg , Cameron and Zemeckis were interviewed . All of them were discussing the pros and cons of performance camptrue pics. If i remember correctly Cameron mentioned that he spoke to Meryl Streep at the Oscars and Streep was under the impression that Avatar was made like Fantastic Mr Fox , which is that the animators do all the work and the actors just come to voice the characters.

 

[Timstuff]

I think that the problem is that people cannot wrap their heads around the idea that actors and animators can work together to make a character look realistic. They are either going to think that the actor just put on a silly outfit and the computer made it look nice, or that the actor just stood in front of a microphone and the animators did the rest.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Tintin is my favorite comic book character and I'm so delighted that Spielberg and Jackson is making the film.
The pictures released so far is amazing and the character looks accurate to their comic counterpart.
I really think that motion-capture is the best way to represent Hergé's art on film. So excited for the movie but a trailer is overdue.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

The previously released images in high-resolution.

Spoiler

 

[CGHulk]

Awesome!

 

[Crockett]

Tintin!

Man does it look good in HQ.

 

[Frosty81]

Yeah this is looking fantastic. I love the desert shot.

 

[O_B_Juan]

I keep seeing this movie being called "Indiania Jones for kids". Help me out, because I don't see it?

 

[Crockett]

Love the first pic, you can even see Silk's shelves of wallets.

 

[Bunker]

I literally know nothing about Tintin, but this is easily my most anticipated movie of next year. The amount of talent involved is insane.

 

[Octoberist]

Think of it as 'Indiana Jones', I suppose.

 

[terry78]

Well, Jackson said they would look like real people, only stylized with Herge's designs. Basically if it was done in live action it would have required makeup.