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[Venom Spectre]

I also thought i'd post some GG manips I did upon the release of TASM2

These are my favorites. Real nice and simple concept.

 

[degraves93]

Anyone willing to do some of the proposed S6 lineup at the TASM2 end credits w/ a female Ock?

 

[harryoscop]

No offense but what reason would they make Doc Ock female? again no offense.

 

[degraves93]

No offense but what reason would they make Doc Ock female? again no offense.

None taken lol. They already went with Harry before Norman as the Goblin, so it's not too far off the mark to make Carolyn Doc Ock before Otto. Plus, the movie will more likely than not have at least one female lead, so why not make the female lead one of the villains? That sounds like a more likely idea than going with someone more obscure like Shathra. Unless they just use someone like Silver Sable or Black Cat who wouldn't make any sense as part of the Six.

 

[harryoscop]

Yeah, I'd stick with Otto..

 

[degraves93]

Yeah, I'd stick with Otto..

That'd be cool too. It'd be nice too see a non sympathetic version of him on screen, though it'll be tough to top Molina.

 

[harryoscop]

I know I'm going to be burned alive

 

[W/ Great Power]

I just hope Ock is a genuine villain with a solid backstory and motive. Hopefully they'll actually go back and understand everything that Molina did right with the character, and realize they can't half-ass the character the way they did with Rhino.

 

[degraves93]

I just hope Ock is a genuine villain with a solid backstory and motive. Hopefully they'll actually go back and understand everything that Molina did right with the character, and realize they can't half-ass the character the way they did with Rhino.

I enjoyed Rhino with the minuscule amount of screen time he had. He served his purpose in the movie, which was to be a nut job who smashed things, and Giamatti clearly relished it. It wouldn't have made sense to add more to him as a character, because he didn't fit into the rest of the movie. Now, if he is indeed included in S6, then they can flesh him out more.

 

[spiderral]

I know I'm going to be burned alive but..... Molina's Ock was overrated IMO..

We can burned alive together man because I feel the exact same way.

He was fine as Ock, nothing special, nothing scary or intimidating. I much preferred him before he turned into a villain; he was too cheesy when he was taken over by the arms (but obviously not cheesier than Max Dillon).
Doc Ock was only good in SM2 for the action scenes, the train scene in particular, and that was it.

 

[degraves93]

We can burned alive together man because I feel the exact same way.

He was fine as Ock, nothing special, nothing scary or intimidating. I much preferred him before he turned into a villain; he was too cheesy when he was taken over by the arms (but obviously not cheesier than Max Dillon).
Doc Ock was only good in SM2 for the action scenes, the train scene in particular, and that was it.

Have to disagree with you there. He was warm and sympathetic as Octavius, and as Ock he was just the right amount of maniacal and understated, probably the least overacted of the Spidey villains with the exception of Sandman. As for Foxx, I was surprised that they decided to make Max unstable from the get-go, rather than a steady loss of sanity. Yeah, it was overacted, but I don't disdain it to the same extent that others do. Foxx has acted his way out of far inferior movies than this, and I enjoyed him as Electro.

 

[W/ Great Power]

I enjoyed Rhino with the minuscule amount of screen time he had. He served his purpose in the movie, which was to be a nut job who smashed things, and Giamatti clearly relished it. It wouldn't have made sense to add more to him as a character, because he didn't fit into the rest of the movie. Now, if he is indeed included in S6, then they can flesh him out more.

What you mentioned last is exactly the problem. He is part of the S6, as was clearly stated by Fiers in TASM2, before Rhino busts out of Oscorp and takes to the streets.

Like you said, I would have no issue with his character if he simply served the purpose of a meathead villain. However, as I've mentioned before, I would hope that the fact that this is the first time the S6 will be shown in a movie causes the producers to approach every villain in the group carefully, especially with the shortcomings of TASM2.

It's unfortunate that Goddard will have to take up a villain that has already partially been wasted, but I'm holding out hope that he can add a spin to the character that makes him at least somewhat more intriguing.

 

[spiderral]

I just hope Ock is a genuine villain with a solid backstory and motive. Hopefully they'll actually go back and understand everything that Molina did right with the character, and realize they can't half-ass the character the way they did with Rhino.

Out of all the villains from the S6, he's the one I'm hoping they nail and work on first which is why I think they should angle the film with Ock being the main character/protagonist.

I enjoyed Rhino with the minuscule amount of screen time he had. He served his purpose in the movie, which was to be a nut job who smashed things, and Giamatti clearly relished it. It wouldn't have made sense to add more to him as a character, because he didn't fit into the rest of the movie. Now, if he is indeed included in S6, then they can flesh him out more.

Well said, man! I don't understand why people aren't grasping the concept that that was Rhino's purpose and they didn't need to do anything else with the character; he was a minor villain that didn't need a backstory or fleshing out, he just had to be crazy and for Spider-Man to make fun of him and have a quick brawl with. Also, welcome to the boards, I've only really started seeing you around here so I thought I'd say "hi". t:

 

[degraves93]

Out of all the villains from the S6, he's the one I'm hoping they nail and work on first which is why I think they should angle the film with Ock being the main character/protagonist.



Well said, man! I don't understand why people aren't grasping the concept that that was Rhino's purpose and they didn't need to do anything else with the character; he was a minor villain that didn't need a backstory or fleshing out, he just had to be crazy and for Spider-Man to make fun of him and have a quick brawl with. Also, welcome to the boards, I've only really started seeing you around here so I thought I'd say "hi". t:

Aw thanks man! Am I the only one who liked Foxx's Electro? Because I really feel that way. I don't think he was miscast at all, he's too skilled of an actor to be completely wrong for a role, and I thought he was damn menacing in certain scenes. The way he says "You better make DAMN sure you kill me this time!" to Dr. Kafka was great.

 

[degraves93]

So, can anyone make something for the proposed S6 lineup?

Green Goblin with tweaked armor, maybe something that combines his suit and look from TASM2 with a cloak and hood.

Doctor Octopus with a suit and tie and the arms from the Shazam thing

Vulture, with black armor and green wings

Kraven with a modified version of his classic look, maybe looking older and more grizzled

Mysterio with the mask from the credits.

Rhino with a modified version of the TASM2 suit

 

[spiderral]

Have to disagree with you there. He was warm and sympathetic as Octavius, and as Ock he was just the right amount of maniacal and understated, probably the least overacted of the Spidey villains with the exception of Sandman. As for Foxx, I was surprised that they decided to make Max unstable from the get-go, rather than a steady loss of sanity. Yeah, it was overacted, but I don't disdain it to the same extent that others do. Foxx has acted his way out of far inferior movies than this, and I enjoyed him as Electro.

I agree with you regarding Octavius but Ock just wasn't menacing enough for me, especially after Dafoe's great performance and role in the first Raimi film. Molina was just the tiniest step down from Dafoe as the villain.

Foxx was great as Electro in the third act, and really badass too, but was just a little too much in parts of the film where he didn't really have much to do and wasn't fleshed out. E.g., I liked how confused and scared he was in Times Square and I can understand him getting angry when Spider-Man suddenly stole his spotlight but when the cheesy one-liners rolled through (especially in the Kafka scenes), it was enough.

Max Dillon, pre-transformation, could have been dialed down a little, especially when they were trying to go for the sympathetic route which didn't come across well at all (mainly because I think they cut that out, especially with the absence of the scene with Max's mother). If they put more emphasis on Max being a little mentally unstable, maybe being seen taking medication at the start of the movie to show him trying to combat that and fit in to the world around him, then that could have worked. Maybe him obsessing over Spider-Man wasn't the best route to have taken either.

Aw thanks man! Am I the only one who liked Foxx's Electro? Because I really feel that way. I don't think he was miscast at all, he's too skilled of an actor to be completely wrong for a role, and I thought he was damn menacing in certain scenes. The way he says "You better make DAMN sure you kill me this time!" to Dr. Kafka was great.

As for that line, I think it would have worked best if Max wasn't portrayed as being too goofy at the start of the film, as I mentioned above. Thinking about it now, Electro was too much of waste in TASM2. If they really wanted to use the villain and not been in a rush to kill Gwen off so soon, then they should have spent more time on Max/Electro and pushed Gwen's death to TASM3 and used 2 and 3 to have built up the Goblin (and had it been Norman as well though I don't mind it being Harry either).

 

[degraves93]

I agree with you regarding Octavius but Ock just wasn't menacing enough for me, especially after Dafoe's great performance and role in the first Raimi film. Molina was just the tiniest step down from Dafoe as the villain.

Foxx was great as Electro in the third act, and really badass too, but was just a little too much in parts of the film where didn't really have much to do and wasn't fleshed out. E.g., I liked how confused and scared he was in Times Square and I can understand him getting angry when Spider-Man suddenly stole his spotlight but when the cheesy one-liners rolled through, it was enough.

Max Dillon, pre-transformation, could have been dialed down a little, especially when they were trying to go for the sympathetic route which didn't come across well at all (mainly because I think they cut that out, especially with the absence of the scene with Max's mother). If they put more emphasis on Max being a little mentally unstable, maybe being seen taking medication at the start of the movie to show him trying to combat that and fit in to the world around him, then that could have worked. Maybe him obsessing over Spider-Man wasn't the best route to have taken either.

Max came across more pathetic than sympathetic if you catch my drift, which was surprising but, again, Foxx managed to make it work well enough. The scene with Max's mother was a bit too comical for me, even if that wasn't the intention; "I should be singin' HOOKS for famous RAPPERS", that cracked me up (I knew they'd sneak a Yeezy reference in somewhere). The one flipout scene with Smythe was enough, having an additional one may have been too much. As for the one-liners, the only one was "Now it's time for me to LIGHT MY CANDLES" was the only one I remember, and I don't hate it as much as when I saw it in theaters. As for his loneliness and friendlessness being a motivator for him, I completely understood it, even if some people don't seem to. When you think you finally found someone who gives a sh•t about you, and then they let you down, the hurt and rage that builds up is so intense that you want more than anything to get back at those who inflicted it upon you. That came across so clearly in the Times Square scene that it was almost uncomfortable.

 

[W/ Great Power]

Out of all the villains from the S6, he's the one I'm hoping they nail and work on first which is why I think they should angle the film with Ock being the main character/protagonist.

Agreed.

In regards to all of the villains, though, what worries me most about this film is that if it isn't executed properly, it will ruin the image for a lot of villains at once.

It will kill a lot of birds with one stone, so to speak.

 

[degraves93]

Agreed.

In regards to all of the villains, though, what worries me most about this film is that if it isn't executed properly, it will ruin the image for a lot of villains at once.

It will kill a lot of birds with one stone, so to speak.

I actually assumed that Harry would be the protagonist for S6, simply based on how TASM2 ended, and I'm also assuming everything that happened in TASM2 will be connected to S6.

 

[W/ Great Power]

I actually assumed that Harry would be the protagonist for S6, simply based on how TASM2 ended, and I'm also assuming everything that happened in TASM2 will be connected to S6.

Here's a snippet of a post I made a couple days ago regarding that topic:

It's enough for them to have to cover the other four villains that haven't been introduced yet. Also, while there should be a power struggle within the group, I believe the eventual leader should be Doc Ock. I'm not all antsy about comic book accuracy for small details here and there, but they're going to be introducing the S6 for the first time onscreen. This is one of the prominent story-lines from Spidey's comics, and they need to do it the right way. Goblin wasn't even part of the original S6 in the first place. Furthermore, I just can't see Harry, at least this version of him, manning a group of badass villains. This could also provide a different arc where the group ousts him as well, and adds to the rage he felt after being cheated by Oscorp.

 

[degraves93]

Here's a snippet of a post I made a couple days ago regarding that topic:

Good point. Ock will be leader of the group with Harry feeling cheated and resentful towards the rest of the group, who are presumably all older and more experienced. Also, what would be the motivation for the rest of the group, since they'll all be coming from Oscorp? Harry and Aleksei have already been introduced and have their vendettas against Spidey, but what about Otto, Adrian, Sergei and Quentin? What would fuel their hatred for Spidey, and how are they going to work that in even with his role being "immaterial" per Garfield?

 

[W/ Great Power]

Good point. Ock will be leader of the group with Harry feeling cheated and resentful towards the rest of the group, who are presumably all older and more experienced. Also, what would be the motivation for the rest of the group, since they'll all be coming from Oscorp? Harry and Aleksei have already been introduced and have their vendettas against Spidey, but what about Otto, Adrian, Sergei and Quentin? What would fuel their hatred for Spidey, and how are they going to work that in even with his role being "immaterial" per Garfield?

That's what I think would work best. It was clear in TASM2 that Harry's character was making a rash decision in an attempt to get Spidey's blood. His impatience was a byproduct of his immaturity. He doesn't have a self-contained, mature personality that could take charge of a group, in my opinion.

The motivations for the rest of the villains boggle my mind. If they're already in Oscorp, why would they bother to help Harry? Instead, maybe their equipment ("Everything we need is already at Oscorp") is what's already at Oscorp, and the characters themselves will be given it in order to carry out their plans. But, again, that's a little weak in terms of thorough story building, and that makes me wonder how they'll carry out Doc Ock in particular.

(Also, sorry if this thread is going off topic. I just realized we're still in the "Fan Art" thread!)

 

[degraves93]

That's what I think would work best. It was clear in TASM2 that Harry's character was making a rash decision in an attempt to get Spidey's blood. His impatience was a byproduct of his immaturity. He doesn't have a self-contained, mature personality that could take charge of a group, in my opinion.

The motivations for the rest of the villains boggle my mind. If they're already in Oscorp, why would they bother to help Harry? Instead, maybe their equipment ("Everything we need is already at Oscorp") is what's already at Oscorp, and the characters themselves will be given it in order to carry out their plans. But, again, that's a little weak in terms of thorough story building, and that makes me wonder how they'll carry out Doc Ock in particular.

(Also, sorry if this thread is going off topic. I just realized we're still in the "Fan Art" thread!)

It's fine, we can carry it on until someone yells at us lol. If Raimi and Co. managed to find a way to make EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN have a personal connection to Peter, then Goddard can make the Oscorp connection work. Each and every one of them has their petty grievances and insecurities, and maybe each of them are screwed over by Oscorp in a separate way, like Max and Harry. Spidey will be included in some respect I imagine, it's just the extent that we don't know. The fact that Garfield knew anything at all about the script clues me into that.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Nice stuff in here.

This is what I'm working on right now.

Spoiler

 

[W/ Great Power]

Nice stuff in here.

This is what I'm working on right now.

Spoiler

Very nice!

I'm guessing Spidey is being chased by the S6?