The Batman - 408 - Seconds

[November Rain]

well you know what i meant...

 

[jaydawg]

This episode was good, but not that great. I liked Grey and all, but I think everyone is making way to big a deal over the "deaths." Falling to the ground? Thats hardly dark. This was no where even close to "Over the Edge" and the fact that people are comparing this to that is a joke. Gordon literally fell dozens of stories onto a moving car. With her father inside it. That is easily the worst thing anyone will ever see on a saturday morning cartoon.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Well, considering what the show was originally, you gotta give it credit for trying to take things more seriously. It's probably got more restrictions than either Timm Batman series had.

 

[CLARKY]

Well, I've just watched it and I found the episode pretty good. I loved that it was a common guy making things difficult for Batman.
The "major" twist at the end was great!
What I loved the most was at the beginning we DO see the rewind of each scene (a whole episode with this technique could have been quickly boring) and then we see the scenes from Batman's point of view, that gave Francis an unrealistic power on the situations (apparently) yet we understand how he does it. I may not be very clear , anyway what I loved was that different points of view.
Good episode.

 

[Proteus-X312]

This might be the darkest episode yet... and also the most touching.

This episode introduces us to Francis Grey, a loser who gets time-manipulating powers to commit robberies. At first, he seems like a simple criminal, but as the episode continues, he has a much deep motive. Liked how the writers were poking fun of themselves in Francis' quips.

Batgirl got beaten to death a la Jason Todd, Robin got electrocuted until dying, and Batman, Matt Grey, and the rest of the city died from poison. Plus the drama following our villain make the episode very dark, even if Francis fixes all of it. In the end, Francis Grey manages to do what others couldn't: kill The Batman. But he chose to undo all of it.

The only problem in this episode is how Francis got his powers. Don't see how 17 years of an insane obsession over clocks and time can give you powers. Which reminds me, should he be considered The Batman's Clock King?

5/5

NEXT WEEK: Batman confronts The Riddler, and both end up uncovering the biggest riddle of them all: What caused Riddler's obsession with Batman?

I thought it was a pretty good episode.I agree with you about his powers.I hate it when writers take the lazy route and just have the powers appear out of nowhere without any real explanation.

 

[Hellstormer]

I thought it was a pretty good episode.I agree with you about his powers.I hate it when writers take the lazy route and just have the powers appear out of nowhere without any real explanation.

That's what sequal episodes are for.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

i've seen better arcs in x-men evolution, spiderman, hulk and x-men than i have in the last season of justice league.

maybe because it seemed to outshine everything else that was around at the time but the last season of jlu was fairly non-eventful with each ep being a notorious filler or neatly tieing up ends with a very rushed and poorly carried out season finale.

it was nowher near the awesomeness that was season 2, heck not even some first series justice league.

I agree--while the Legion arc was pretty good, Cadmus just kicked it's ass up and down the animation block, definately more interesting and mature. Besides, Cadmus had more of The Question, and you can't go wrong with more of The Question.

Anyway, caught a repeat of the episode today, and I throughly enjoyed it. Also--I hereby award the villian of the piece, Gray, with having the best 70's porn mustache in cartoon history. t: