The Brave and the Bold News and Discussion Thread

[Eddie Dean]

Who mentioned Ethan Hawke?

 

[Lily Adler]

Who mentioned Ethan Hawke?

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

Someone brought up Dan Trachtenberg to direct and yeah I’d let him direct whatever he wants after Predator: Badlands.

Best sci-fi movie I’ve seen in the last 15 years. No joke. Wow.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Someone brought up Dan Trachtenberg to direct and yeah I’d let him direct whatever he wants after Predator: Badlands.

Best sci-fi movie I’ve seen in the last 15 years. No joke. Wow.

He's also specifically a great choice for the Al Ghul stuff. He's clearly the man for shirtless (but cowled) Batman vs equally shirtless Ras swordfighting.

 

[flickchick85]

Dan’s been sitting at the top of my list for several projects for a while now. Including Superman and Batman. There are so many DC characters I feel like he could absolutely kill it on, as I think he’s one of the most well-rounded and audience-friendly storytellers in genre filmmaking today.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

This sounds like a backhanded compliment but Dan makes what just a normal genre adventure movie should be. Something like Badlands should be the baseline for IP movies, which isn’t an insult to Badlands (which rules) - just a condemnation of how rough the IP space has gotten.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Dan’s been sitting at the top of my list for several projects for a while now. Including Superman and Batman. There are so many DC characters I feel like he could absolutely kill it on, as I think he’s one of the most well-rounded and audience-friendly storytellers in genre filmmaking today.

Hear me out:

Imagine if Dan does the magic he did with Prey, but does it for Wondy next time.

That would totally get me fired up for a Wonder Woman movie.

 

[flickchick85]

Hear me out:

Imagine if Dan does the magic he did with Prey, but does it for Wondy next time.

That would totally get me fired up for a Wonder Woman movie.

One of the few male filmmakers I would fully trust with Diana. He’s like my Greg Rucka of movies lol.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I straight up won’t watch Supergirl because it has a male director but even I’d make an exception for Dan on WW.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

I straight up won’t watch Supergirl because it has a male director but even I’d make an exception for Dan on WW.

If you’re serious, that’s your prerogative, but I personally think this take is so dumb that I can’t take anything you say seriously. Yikes, glad you have zero power at DC. You’re a staff member here entrusted to help guide the conversation and these are the kinds of opinions you’re sharing. It’s ruinous to this site’s reputation to have someone like you in power here saying such stupid things. This site is ****ed.

Wanting female directors to tell female stories is a valid concern but not seeing the movie just because it’s a male director, when you don’t even have any idea how they’re going to approach the story or anything is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen here.

 

[Boom]

 

[C. Lee]

It's important to discuss things civilly. You can disagree with someone's opinion without resorting to calling them names.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If you’re serious, that’s your prerogative, but I personally think this take is so dumb that I can’t take anything you say seriously. Yikes, glad you have zero power at DC. You’re a staff member here entrusted to help guide the conversation and these are the kinds of opinions you’re sharing. It’s ruinous to this site’s reputation to have someone like you in power here saying such stupid things. This site is ****ed.

Wanting female directors to tell female stories is a valid concern but not seeing the movie just because it’s a male director, when you don’t even have any idea how they’re going to approach the story or anything is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen here.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Is that Gojira’s roar I hear in the distance?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Is that Gojira’s roar I hear in the distance?

Gojira's not on the staff anymore. He apparently refused to watch any movies not made by kaiju with the exception of the films of Guillermo del Toro. Really hurt the rep of the site, so the others had to kick him.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Idk man, this is super off-topic so this is my last word on the subject but I don't think being uninterested in what a male director who I find extremely mediocre does with Supergirl is some crazed wokeness run amok take.

These movies aren't super personal works of art, its not like Supergirl is a vision created whole cloth by Craig Gillespie. Directors like him get hired as journeymen for calculated, strategic reasons that in this case feels cynical to me. Especially with how weird the industry got about female CBMs and the idea of women directing them post-The Marvels.

Not some rallying cry. No one has to agree with me. I just can't imagine a world where I give a **** what the director of Cruella does with Supergirl.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Idk man, this is super off-topic so this is my last word on the subject but I don't think being uninterested in what a male director who I find extremely mediocre does with Supergirl is some crazed wokeness run amok take.

These movies aren't super personal works of art, its not like Supergirl is a vision created whole cloth by Craig Gillespie. Directors like him get hired as journeymen for calculated, strategic reasons that in this case feels cynical to me. Especially with how weird the industry got about female CBMs and the idea of women directing them post-The Marvels.

Not some rallying cry. No one has to agree with me. I just can't imagine a world where I give a **** what the director of Cruella does with Supergirl.

You are SO much better than me because you don’t have to explain yourself.

You don’t want to watch the movie, it’s your prerogative to not watch the damn movie.

Even though I felt the shade toward Cruella. LOL.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Idk man, this is super off-topic so this is my last word on the subject but I don't think being uninterested in what a male director who I find extremely mediocre does with Supergirl is some crazed wokeness run amok take.

These movies aren't super personal works of art, its not like Supergirl is a vision created whole cloth by Craig Gillespie. Directors like him get hired as journeymen for calculated, strategic reasons that in this case feels cynical to me. Especially with how weird the industry got about female CBMs and the idea of women directing them post-The Marvels.

Not some rallying cry. No one has to agree with me. I just can't imagine a world where I give a **** what the director of Cruella does with Supergirl.

They hired who they hired to mimic Gunn. Which itself is a big ole warning sign. I'm told the original graphic novel is great but my only real care for the movie is Milly. Outside of that, I'd probably skip it completely.

Overall, the recent gross treatment towards women, POC and members of the LGBTQIA+ in the genre, both in front of and behind the camera, is super apparent. It's not subtle.

With Marvel, they tell us one of their issues is they had too much stuff. What they meant was they hand too many girls.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You are SO much better than me because you don’t have to explain yourself.

You don’t want to watch the movie, it’s your prerogative to not watch the damn movie.

Even though I felt the shade toward Cruella. LOL.

Cruella has the soundtrack and of course Emma. But boy does it feel like a music video without a story.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

An ugly music video!

(Sorry Shinobi)

 

[DarthSkywalker]

An ugly music video!

(Sorry Shinobi)

You know what isn't that? Nia DeCosta's Hedda. Real good. Someone should hire her to make a superhero movie and trust her clearly amazing instincts and unique perspective.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

You know what isn't that? Nia DeCosta's Hedda. Real good. Someone should hire her to make a superhero movie and trust her clearly amazing instincts and unique perspective.

I gotta watch that. Big Ibsen guy.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

So male directors are only allowed to work on male superhero movies and female directors are only allowed to direct female lead superhero movies? Do I got this right?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So male directors are only allowed to work on male superhero movies and female directors are only allowed to direct female lead superhero movies? Do I got this right?

How many women get to direct superhero movies at all? How many black people? brown people? East Asian people? Members of the LGBTQIA+ community?

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Yes, me thinking a job directing a major female lead superhero movie in an industry/genre where female filmmakers are massively underrepresented should probably have gone to a woman is me advocating for strict gender segregation in filmmaking. You can tell this from my post by the part where I say there actually is a male director who'd be good for Wonder Woman (a character where its far, far more important to have a woman make it than Supergirl for a variety of reasons) and the part where I cleverly never said female directors can only director girly movies but hid it in some sort of evil Zodiac code that can be discovered if you decipher my fiendish post correctly.