The Che Guevara Thread

[moraldeficiency]

There you go again throwing around the word mass murderer. Che overthrew a real mass murderer, Batista. A fact those who want to vilify him choose to conveniently ignore.

Just as some innocent people are executed in our country due to an imperfect justice system I'm sure some innocent people got caught up in the war crime allegations since they were far-reaching but to say Che is a mass murderer is a gross exaggeration that is an effort to demonize him and anyone like him.

I acknowledge that there were very possibly some innocent people caught up in the mob mentality following the immediate overthrow of Batista because 93% of the public wanted blood. However you act as if Che personally killed hundreds of people who had nothing to do with Batista's death squads. The truth is you don't care because you've been conditioned to hate the man regardless of the unknowns such as how many purely innocent civilians he's responsible for killing.

Let's play a fun little word game, shall we?

There you go again throwing around the word mass murderer. Bush overthrew a real mass murderer, Saddam. A fact those who want to vilify him choose to conveniently ignore.

Just as some innocent people are executed in our country due to an imperfect justice system I'm sure some innocent people got caught up in the war crime allegations since they were far-reaching but to say Bush is a mass murderer is a gross exaggeration that is an effort to demonize him and anyone like him.

I acknowledge that there were very possibly some innocent people caught up in the mob mentality following the immediate overthrow of Saddam because 93% of the public wanted blood. However you act as if Bush personally killed hundreds of people who had nothing to do with Saddam's death squads. The truth is you don't care because you've been conditioned to hate the man regardless of the unknowns such as how many purely innocent civilians he's responsible for killing.

I'm assuming you're a republican cause you use their same arguments. The only difference being that Saddam was a far worse dictator and mass murderer than Batista could ever hope to be. So you have the same views on the Iraq War right? Perhaps Bush t-shirts are coming next?

 

[MissHades]

Here an interview with benicio Del Toro, another 'great' example of actor who only knows the "good side" of his character (even if claims the ALL might so good and deep research) and gets ****ed by an intelligent and very well informed journalist who isn't afraid to tell the TRUTH and not only what liberals and artists want to hear. The clip is a must see, Marlen Gonzalez makes Del Toro awkward in his own ignorance about Guevara.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZGTV6FbBXM[/YT]

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I am not see anything but a blank screen.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Word is the movie is good.

I'll head into the movie with no mind made up. I'm pretty new to the wole Che Guevara story.

 

[The Chairman]

Someone at school came wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt yesterday. I was tempted to ask her about some of the points brought up in this thread, but abstained.

 

[CaptainClown]

I really don't care as long as they can defend the reason they wear the shirt, like oh gee lemme think, know some damn information about che.

 

[Addendum]

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

You think someone should know the information before they wear the shirt?

I mean...I think that's asking alot of us Americans.

Seriously. That's asking alot.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Btw..anybody thinks his popularity will start to spark again with the shirts, and the movie....and the knock on capatalism these days?

Especially with the right ring claiming we're already living in Russia (only 3 weeks after Obama came into office....lol)?

Espeically since so many have been claiming the death of capatalism lately.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Well anyone renting the movie will probably be pissed off like me that the end is on another movie sold seperately, a very capitalist move and probably not want to bother.

 

[Malice]

I am going to be honest...
No idea who Che Guevara is

 

[Paradoxium]

If I am reading and hearing stories correctly, this is the same guy that lined homosexuals face front against the wall and shot them point blank in the back of their heads... All because of their sexual orientation.

Can't say I like him too much.

 

[moraldeficiency]

If I am reading and hearing stories correctly, this is the same guy that lined homosexuals face front against the wall and shot them point blank in the back of their heads... All because of their sexual orientation.

Can't say I like him too much.

You're right, but most supporters of his don't really care about such things. He's a revolutionary, man, a revolutionary!

 

[StorminNorman]

I am going to be honest...
No idea who Che Guevara is

He's a minor league second baseman.

 

[rdh007]

From ytmnd's heyday (such as it was):

 

[Schlosser85]

No idea who Che Guevara is

Don't worry, he doesn't merit much remembrance anyway.

How come it's "cool" to wear Che Guevara shirts, but not, say Heinrich Himmler or Reinhard Heydrich shirts?

 

[Malice]

Don't worry, he doesn't merit much remembrance anyway.

How come it's "cool" to wear Che Guevara shirts, but not, say Heinrich Himmler or Reinhard Heydrich shirts?

Nicely put...
Heinrich Himmler

the question is...how many people would know that name...
or how about
Joseph Goebbels