The Hobbit, Star Wars I-III, or T.L.J.?

[a user]

People complained that “The Hobbit” was a dumpster fire.

People complained that the “Star Wars” prequel trilogy ruined their childhoods.

People are still complaining that “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” ruined their childhoods and the whole sequel trilogy.

How do you enjoy them?

 

[jolldan]

The Last Jedi was the worst of the bunch for me.

The Hobbit trilogy would have been ok if it hadn't followed LOTR, it just didn't have the same feel, the effects felt weaker (despite being 10 years newer) and personally I think it should have never been stretched in to a trilogy.

Love the prequels Jar-Jar and all lol, possibly because that's the Star Wars of my childhood or possibly because they introduced and showed for the first time so many cool new things like Droidekas, Super Battle Droids, the N-1 Starfighter, Yoda having a lightsabre duel, Jango Fett, Darth Maul, Order 66, the final battles between Obi Wan/Anakin & Yoda/Sidious and so much more.

 

[sueb1863]

I thought TLJ had problems but I didn't hate it. My biggest issue with it was that they completely wasted Poe and Finn, who got no character development and basically spent two hours spinning their wheels on pointless subplots.

The Hobbit was just a mess. They took a nice simple little adventure story and turned it into a bloated nine-hour CGI monstrosity. The cast was great but only a handful of them got anything to do and the rest were nothing but window dressing who barely registered. One dwarf didn't have a single line in nine hours. The studio wanted another LotR and ignored the fact that the Hobbit isn't that sort of story.

The prequels were OK to me but they made Anakin too easily manipulated and just plain stupid. George Lucas' direction was terrible and I never bought into the romance for a second, and that's what Anakin's entire turn is based around. They should have written Anakin as a lot more ruthless and ambitious, someone who became evil because he wanted the power and made a conscious choice. The way it was written, he was basically tricked into becoming evil and that just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[DeadPresident]

The Hobbit trilogy wasn’t memorable for me at all. SW Prequel trilogy was decent and nowhere near as bad as people love to meme about, they’re good movies. I thought TFA was a really good re-iteration of ANH and hit some great notes, but TLJ was really mediocre to me and all the social commentary fell flat. We’ll have to see about ROS but so far it looks like as a whole the sequel trilogy and prequel trilogy will end up being roughly at the same level for different reasons.

 

[Neno_Kos]

the Hobbit. if you edit 3 movies into one and cut all filler you actually get amazing movie. there are enough fan edits which do that.

 

[jolldan]

the Hobbit. if you edit 3 movies into one and cut all filler you actually get amazing movie. there are enough fan edits which do that.

Yeah I read the Hobbit as a kid and I remember when I heard that it was being split in to a trilogy I thought straight away that seemed like they were really stretching it.

 

[THORin]

I have to go with The Last Jedi, since I feel very strongly that it’s the best movie in the Star Wars franchise. But The Hobbit will always have a special place in my heart, because it’s still Middle-earth. And while it may not be as grand as LOTR, it’s still got a very compelling story - plus Benedict Cumberbatch as Smaug.

 

[Fincher]

I haven't seen the third Hobbit movie despite enjoying the first two, but it's safe to say I like the Star Wars prequels more. The Last Jedi was the worst Star Wars movie by far.

 

[shinlyle]

I have to go with The Last Jedi. I enjoyed it a lot at the time, and it's still pretty good to me...but I still say that it has the potential to be made better or worse by Rise of Skywalker. If 9 sucks, then 8 sucks by proxy. Aside from the casino planet and Rose (the stalker), I have no problem with the movie. Honestly, Luke's demise after running and hiding from his problems is kind of fitting with Jedi tradition (Yoda and Obi-Wan did the same thing for twice as long).

The Hobbit trilogy isn't a dumpster fire, I just felt like it was a stretched thin story...especially since you can read the 80 book in about a third of the time it takes to watch the three movies.

The prequels are just as bad as I remember them, though. With the exception of Darth Maul in Phantom Menace, The troopers in Clones, and 60% of Sith, they are trash.

 

[Deck Rickard]

The prequels were by far the worst, just from a movie-making standpoint. Bad writing, bad dialogue, bad acting, CGI that wasn't advanced enough for what they wanted to do, and of course ALL THE WIPES. Those are three of the worst movies I've ever seen, maybe THE worst if you consider the expectations and the resources they had. Oh, and Hayden Christiansen should never act again. Though to be fair, George Lucas also found ways to make top talents like Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman and the great CHRISTOPHER LEE suck. And please, anyone who tries to tell me that the George Lucas "redeemed" himself with the third movie has fanboy blinders on. It was just as awful as the other ones.

The Hobbit movies I'd say were second worst; the LOTR trilogy is so great and and Hobbit prequel could have been amazing... IF it was kept as one movie. But hey, the LOTR movies made a ton of money, so let's milk the hell out of it and make the SHORTEST book into three LONG movies. I think maybe you could have stretched it to two films since they wanted to include the Dol Guldur stuff (which were probably the best parts of the films). But THREE films? Holy hell. Though I will say that the films mostly look good and Holmes and Watson as Smaug and Bilbo are pretty great.

TLJ gets a lot of hate, and I feel like some of it is undeserved. I feel like some of the criticisms were due to the movie going in directions that people didn't want it to, but I don't think that makes the movie bad. For example, I wasn't crazy about some of the choices that Luke made, but I don't know that any of it ruined the movie or Star Wars in general, at least not for me. That said, I do think the movie had script problems. The whole flight to Space Vegas was ultimately a waste of time. The movie also felt like it should have ended a half hour before it did. And Rey's "training" as a Jedi was practically nothing. But overall I still think it's a better movie than any of the prequels or the Hobbit films.

 

[Enriquespy]

I really like TLJ. I do think it's a great film. To the point that I was mind boggled when so many people disliked it.

The discussion about it was never very productive, But I do wish people could see in TLJ what I saw that make me like it so much.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I really like TLJ. I do think it's a great film. To the point that I was mind boggled when so many people disliked it.

The discussion about it was never very productive, But I do wish people could see in TLJ what I saw that make me like it so much.

Yeah, it's a flawed movie but not a bad one, IMO. Some things really work and some don't but overall I think it's a good movie. I also wonder how much of the controversy around it was being driven by incel trolls who wanted to sabotage the movie because it had strong female characters in it or whatever. I'm not at all saying that ALL of the people who didn't like it are incels but those a**holes spend roughly about 100% of their time trashing things online and review-bombing movies they don't like so I wonder if all that trolling has skewed the public perception of the movie, making people think it's hated a lot more than it actually is. I mean, it made $1.3 billion, so it can't be THAT unpopular.

 

[Boom]

The Prequel Trilogy is the worst, with the Hobbit Trilogy literally right behind it.

I quite enjoy The Last Jedi and it is nowhere near these two as far as awfulness is concerned.

 

[shinlyle]

Yeah, it's a flawed movie but not a bad one, IMO. Some things really work and some don't but overall I think it's a good movie. I also wonder how much of the controversy around it was being driven by incel trolls who wanted to sabotage the movie because it had strong female characters in it or whatever. I'm not at all saying that ALL of the people who didn't like it are incels but those a**holes spend roughly about 100% of their time trashing things online and review-bombing movies they don't like so I wonder if all that trolling has skewed the public perception of the movie, making people think it's hated a lot more than it actually is. I mean, it made $1.3 billion, so it can't be THAT unpopular.

I think it's more than trolls...I think it's the Star Wars "die-hards" who weren't going to pleased by anything short of Luke pulling star destroyers out of the air and force-walking through entire legions of stormtroopers. SW fans, and I am one of them, are the hardest fans to satisfy.

"It's not like the original trilogy! I don't like it!"
"It's too much like the original Star Wars! I don't like it!"
"Luke ran and hid from his problems only to die to save his friends/allies! That's not Star Wars!"
"They're killing the characters played by 60 year-old actors to replace them with new characters!"

They honestly get quite pathetic. When you look at how much hate TLJ got after positive reviews and one of the best lightsaber duels in SW history, it tells you who the problem is. Not saying TLJ is the best of the saga (since Empire holds that crown), but it's not the "Saga-ruining travesty" that the Lucas-lovers proclaim it to be.

 

[Iceman]

Star Wars prequels are the worst. I prefer the Hobbit films to TLJ.

 

[Enriquespy]

The Hobbit films are ok. Their biggest problem was that everyone, including the director expected them to be The Lord Of The Rings 2. Which they shouldn't have been.

 

[Da-Scribe]

TLJ ain’t that bad. Maybe not the best follow up narrative, but on its own it’s largely a competently to well made flick. Prequels legit make me cringe.

“You are so beautiful.”
”It’s only because I’m so in love.”
“No, it’s because I’m so in love with you!”

Tf? Who talks like that?

Cant remember a damn thing that happened in the Hobbit trilogy other than some mountains slapping the **** outta each other. The most forgettable film series ever. I remember more from the Resident Evil flicks and I’ve only see 1.5 of them.

 

[shinlyle]

TLJ ain’t that bad. Maybe not the best follow up narrative, but on its own it’s largely a competently to well made flick. Prequels legit make me cringe.

“You are so beautiful.”
”It’s only because I’m so in love.”
“No, it’s because I’m so in love with you!”

Tf? Who talks like that?

I...still don't know. There isn't a single scene in the prequel trilogy that makes me feel like Anakin and Padme are right for each other. They have zero chemistry, and honestly, I find it hard that a high-ranking political official (who was clearly wealthy) from a beautiful planet full of lush greenery and warm beaches had to settle for basically a mall cop (Jedi) intern (Padawan) who was about 7 years her junior.

 

[DarkKnight88]

“You are so beautiful.”
”It’s only because I’m so in love.”
“No, it’s because I’m so in love with you!”

Tf? Who talks like that?

An 18 year old former virgin who’s only had a single romantic relationship in his life and hangs out with a bunch of monks.

 

[Da-Scribe]

An 18 year old former virgin who’s only had a single romantic relationship in his life and hangs out with a bunch of monks.

Eh, there were better ways to articulate that. The dialogue they went with just ends up being incredibly distracting in what is clearly meant to be a very tender scene.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

TLJ is a dumpster fire

Definitely worst of the bunch for me

 

[Deck Rickard]

I think it's more than trolls...I think it's the Star Wars "die-hards" who weren't going to pleased by anything short of Luke pulling star destroyers out of the air and force-walking through entire legions of stormtroopers. SW fans, and I am one of them, are the hardest fans to satisfy.

"It's not like the original trilogy! I don't like it!"
"It's too much like the original Star Wars! I don't like it!"
"Luke ran and hid from his problems only to die to save his friends/allies! That's not Star Wars!"
"They're killing the characters played by 60 year-old actors to replace them with new characters!"

They honestly get quite pathetic. When you look at how much hate TLJ got after positive reviews and one of the best lightsaber duels in SW history, it tells you who the problem is. Not saying TLJ is the best of the saga (since Empire holds that crown), but it's not the "Saga-ruining travesty" that the Lucas-lovers proclaim it to be.

Yeah, I don't know why exactly but SW fans DO seem to be impossible to please. And don't get me wrong, I LOVE the original trilogy, but I'm also not blind to its flaws. What I find weird about a lot of the diehards though is that a lot of them seem to act like these new films are SO much worse than the prequels. And look, people can like what they like, but just speaking objectively (if that's possible, and admittedly, it might not be) the prequels are just straight-up BAD movies. They might have some good moments here and there like the lightsaber duels and all that but if ANYTHING sucked the life out of Star Wars, it was those movies. But I guess since George Lucas made them, those people have been duped into thinking they're not that bad? I don't know.

 

[Deck Rickard]

TLJ ain’t that bad. Maybe not the best follow up narrative, but on its own it’s largely a competently to well made flick. Prequels legit make me cringe.

“You are so beautiful.”
”It’s only because I’m so in love.”
“No, it’s because I’m so in love with you!”

Tf? Who talks like that?

Cant remember a damn thing that happened in the Hobbit trilogy other than some mountains slapping the **** outta each other. The most forgettable film series ever. I remember more from the Resident Evil flicks and I’ve only see 1.5 of them.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Poor guy is actually a much better actor than this. Would love to see him get some redemption.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Poor guy is actually a much better actor than this. Would love to see him get some redemption.

He was pretty good in Life As a House, but whenever I watch that movie (which I love) I still think it might have been better if Hayden and Somerhalder switched roles. I always thought Somerhalder was a better actor than him and wished he had a better career.