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This generation's Star Wars

What is for you this generations Star Wars?

  • Star Wars Prequel Trilogy

  • The Matrix Trilogy

  • Halo Trilogy

  • Avatar

  • The Lord of the Rings

  • Iron Man

  • Sam Raimi's Spider-Man Trilogy

  • X-Men

  • Harry Potter

  • Twilight Saga

  • Nolan's Batman Trilogy

  • The whole Marvel Cinematic Universe

  • Pirates of the Caribbean

  • Green Lantern

  • Other (State in coment)


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So what do I think is the next Star Wars? To my dismay, it may be a little thing called World of Warcraft - and it's not a movie. Thankfully, there is still a chance that, like The Matrix, it to is a bit ahead of it's time. Could it be the the sole purpose of The Matrix coming into existence was/is to keep World of Warcraft down? This world may never know.
I doubt it. It's revolutionized online gaming, but it's made very little difference on pop culture as a whole. I mean, what's it got to show for it? A (very clever) South Park episode based on it, but that's about it.
 
I doubt it. It's revolutionized online gaming, but it's made very little difference on pop culture as a whole. I mean, what's it got to show for it? A (very clever) South Park episode based on it, but that's about it.

I think the potential is there but... it would still need to do something to even have a chance at being 'the next Star Wars' that I can't pinpoint.
 
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I remember when Pirates 2 - 3 were released and people were like "this" is our Star Wars. I felt so bad for them. :(

Honestly, I kinda understand it I suppose. :p Everyone's "Star Wars" will be different.
 
I think something really has to be pretty spectacular to be a "new Star Wars". While cable tv was around in the 70s, the first Star Wars wasn't even released on VHS until 1982. Not to mention only really CBS, NBC and ABC being the "major networks". Add, movies were #1 at the box office for months.

Now, we have hundreds of channels, the internet, streaming videos being released months after a movie comes out and now you're lucky if a movie is #1 at the box office for 2 weeks at the most.

Like I said, a movie is going to have to be pretty special to change an industry the way Star Wars did in the 1970s.
 
Honestly, I kinda understand it I suppose. :p Everyone's "Star Wars" will be different.
There reasons amused me. It's an epic movie. How is it epic? You know, because it has deep meanings.

Or, where I work all the kids are into Pirates.

Because me and my group of friends are all into it.

I said the same line as I did here. Wait a few years.

Granted there is a new one coming out but I didn't see a barrage of Pirates in our popular culture in the 4 years in between.
 
I think something really has to be pretty spectacular to be a "new Star Wars". While cable tv was around in the 70s, the first Star Wars wasn't even released on VHS until 1982. Not to mention only really CBS, NBC and ABC being the "major networks". Add, movies were #1 at the box office for months.

Now, we have hundreds of channels, the internet, streaming videos being released months after a movie comes out and now you're lucky if a movie is #1 at the box office for 2 weeks at the most.

Like I said, a movie is going to have to be pretty special to change an industry the way Star Wars did in the 1970s.

The main problem with there ever being 'another Star Wars' phenomenon is that it primarily deals with what we would deem as the future. While Pirates of the Caribbean, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and all the Superhero trilogies deal with what we would deem as the past.

In that dealing with what we deem as a future it pretty much covered everything except - time travel.

The Matrix really did have the best chance but, like I said, it may have been ahead of it's time. Star Wars wasn't because it took place - A long time ago...

All that said, a superb time travel movie series may be the only thing left.

Wheel of Time anyone? I haven't read it but it seems to kinda fit the bill.
 
If Matrix was released later it wouldn't have such an impact, movies like Inception would have made the idea of a virtual world less inovative.
 
If Matrix was released later it wouldn't have such an impact, movies like Inception would have made the idea of a virtual world less inovative.

What The Matrix did that Inception did not is essentially create an entirely new universe. It was still Earth in 'The Matrix' but it was an Earth that very easily could have been a foreign world, almost seeming like one for much of it. It may have lost an edge if it was a foreign world, but maybe it's that 'edge' that makes it what it is. That 'edge' being the fact that the internet is pretty much a reality and great deal closer to people than the worlds portrayed in Star Wars.

If something is to ever be 'the next Star Wars' it's going to have to deal with futuristic topics and possibly even be in lands far, far away. The Matrix doesn't exactly involve lands that are far, far away but it's 'Cyber Space' kinda does serve as the opposite end of the spectrum from 'Outer Space.'
 
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12 million paying subscribers say otherwise, and this is WITHOUT as many people having computer access as do to movie theater's.

That said, a World of Warcraft movie would have to be pretty revolutionary, if it is to have any chance, given that:

A. it would be another video game adaptation to most and we know how that has gone so far.

B. we've already seen a Lord of the Rings trilogy and soon The Hobbit.

I've soured on the game play, but I will say this... it's story is fantastic and I haven't even read it. Very expansive and very in-depth and there are few holes from what I see.


And in terms of cultural impact in terms of things like Star Wars, that's child's play.

Harry Potter had sold 400 Million copies of it's books in 2008. And that's just the books. The movies have all been financially successful, it's currently the top grossing movie series EVER, and it has it's own theme park.

WoW isn't even in the same league.
 
And in terms of cultural impact in terms of things like Star Wars, that's child's play.

Harry Potter had sold 400 Million copies of it's books in 2008. And that's just the books. The movies have all been financially successful, it's currently the top grossing movie series EVER, and it has it's own theme park.

WoW isn't even in the same league.

Impressive number but with 7 books in the series that is roughly 57.5 million sets - 18% of the U.S. population(which is a very unusually large number for a demographic of this sort) or less than 1% of the global population. The best I could tell, there are 70+ Star Wars books with one claim of nearly 800 books.

WITH INFLATION, the Harry Potter series does not even crack the top 60 and is outdone by movies like Beverly Hills Cop, Blazing Saddles, Animal House, Independence Day, and Forrest Gump.

Pirates of the Caribbean also has an amusement park, as well as some other very strange themes.

Although it's impact is significant enough to mention, I wouldn't blow it out of proportion. Wizard and Warrior stories(i.e. King Arthur and Camelot and such) have been around for centuries whereas Star Wars was an extremely new medium at the time, and The Matrix medium may have been completely new.

Harry Potter also takes place in a time that many would view as the present or even the past, thus keeping it from being 'the next Star Wars' which would most likely need to take place in what seems like the future.
 
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Impressive number but with 7 books in the series that is roughly 57.5 million sets - 18% of the U.S. population or less than 1% of the global population. The best I could tell, there are 70+ Star Wars books with one claim of nearly 800 books.

WITH INFLATION, the Harry Potter series does not even crack the top 60 and is outdone by movies like Beverly Hills Cop, Blazing Saddles, Animal House, Independence Day, and Forrest Gump.

Pirates of the Caribbean also has an amusement park as well as some other very strange themes.

Although it's impact is significant enough to mention, I wouldn't blow it out of proportion. Wizard and Warrior stories(i.e. King Arthur and Camelot and such) have been around for centuries whereas Star Wars was an extremely new medium at the time, and The Matrix medium may have been completely new.

Harry Potter also takes place in a time that many would view as the present or even the past, thus keeping it from being 'the next Star Wars' which would most likely need to take place in what seems like the future.

The topic isn't what the "next" Star Wars is, it's "This Generation's Star Wars."

Of this past generation, Harry Potter is really the only thing that comes close, and even then, it's still not star wars. Mainly because Star Wars achieved two huge landmarks.
1.) It revolutionized the film industry.
2.) It was a pop-culture event. Hell, it was an explosion.

Harry Potter only achieved one of the two, being a pop-culture event. The movies, while solid, did not (and unless the 8th pulls something crazy) will not revolutionize the film industry.

And yes, with Inflation the Harry Potter movies would rank lower, but with inflation, Gone With the Wind is the number one movie of all time. What we also have to keep in mind with inflation is that the movie industry has changed. Films don't stay in the theatres as long for a variety of reasons. The internet, the fact that companies can make more money from DVD sales etc. etc. Regardless, the movies have been very successful, there is no doubting that, and a significant number of people watch them.

And you can break down the number of the percentage of the world that Harry Potter is influencing, but it's largely moot. When we discuss "pop culture" we're largely discussing a select few countries that have the means to indulge in pop culture, thus excluding a huge number of the world population. Not to mention the fact that your numbers aren't completley accurate, considering those books aren't being utilized by just one person. Families usually only buy one (maybe two) copies of the same book depending on size. So one book could easily represent two to three people.

Either way, the point I was making is that Harry Potter has reached a far greater number of people then WoW has.

And that's not a knock on WoW. I like the game, but the fact is that it's nowhere near most of these movies in terms of culture impact. It's a video-game, and a highly specialized video game that caters to a select group of people. Namely, males in the tween to late twenties/early thirties subgroup. So it's not going to have as far reaching of an impact simply because it doesn't appeal to as many people.

In terms of Matrix, I would say it get's points for, if not revolutionizing the film industry, having a very large impact in terms of style, at least in action. However, what hurt Matrix was not that it was ahead of it's time, but that the two sequels where just...not very good. Which was disappointing, because I loved the first.
 
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Yeah, WoW isn't too ingrained into the pop culture of the mainstream. It's more of a geek thing.
 
Yeah, WoW isn't too ingrained into the pop culture of the mainstream. It's more of a geek thing.

Agree on both previous points in regards to World of Warcraft but the story had the potential at one time to compete with these other series. I say 'had' because that window may slowly be closing now.
 
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Agree on both previous points in regards to World of Warcraft but the story had the potential at one time. I say 'had' because that window may slowly be closing now.

I have heard that it has some very engaging stories.

I actually think that, in terms of a future franchise pulling a Star Wars-like event, your hunch on something like Matrix isn't a bad one.

I mean, when we look at Star Wars, it was really a new twist on already established fictional constructs. It drew strongly from the classic "heroes journey" template, had elements of the classic American gunslinging Western, had a bit of a war-movie element going on, and drew many influences from Lord of the Rings, but set it in space. Matrix did the same thing. It drew on some very old concepts that have existed for a while. One of the influences for the movie was Plato's Allegory of the Cave. But it floundered after it's first movie.

The thing I think that would make it hard for WoW or any high-fantasy type story, is the fact that LOTR has already been done, and it's pretty hard to beat. I'm not saying it couldn't, but it will be damn hard. Because, let's be honest, nearly every fantasy book every written post-LOTR was influenced by LOTR. Tolkien revolutionized the fantasy genre.

Heck, Star Wars would be different had LOTR not come around.

So I find it hard to see any high-fantasy story coming along and being a bigger hit then Star Wars or LOTR, because LOTR is pretty much the Alpha of high fantasy. So it would be a tough one to beat.
 
I have heard that it has some very engaging stories.
I never read any of the books but just in skimming over it - it looks to be have some very solid depth and detail.

I actually think that, in terms of a future franchise pulling a Star Wars-like event, your hunch on something like Matrix isn't a bad one.

I mean, when we look at Star Wars, it was really a new twist on already established fictional constructs. It drew strongly from the classic "heroes journey" template, had elements of the classic American gunslinging Western, had a bit of a war-movie element going on, and drew many influences from Lord of the Rings, but set it in space. Matrix did the same thing. It drew on some very old concepts that have existed for a while. One of the influences for the movie was Plato's Allegory of the Cave. But it floundered after it's first movie.
I think 'time travel' would be the only logical next step but that's a kinda difficult concept to put down and forward as the next leap for storytelling that could attempt to surpass the Star Wars phenomena.

Star Wars, ultimately, is that which all sci-fi and war stories to a lesser degree answers to. It is my belief that in order to find the next thing... science, war, fiction, and basic storytelling all need to be dissected and reassembled and that is just for starters.

One series that pulled off the 'time travel' concept successfully was Back to the Future but I'm sure no one will seriously argue against it not being in Star Wars league. That is more humanities error in regard to the concept of 'time travel' rather than that series though.

The thing I think that would make it hard for WoW or any high-fantasy type story, is the fact that LOTR has already been done, and it's pretty hard to beat. I'm not saying it couldn't, but it will be damn hard. Because, let's be honest, nearly every fantasy book every written post-LOTR was influenced by LOTR. Tolkien revolutionized the fantasy genre.

Heck, Star Wars would be different had LOTR not come around.

So I find it hard to see any high-fantasy story coming along and being a bigger hit then Star Wars or LOTR, because LOTR is pretty much the Alpha of high fantasy. So it would be a tough one to beat.
I agree 100% on the fantasy genre having a difficult obstacle to hurdle in Lord of the Rings. One thing the World of Warcraft does have to combat that is, unlike other stories of it's genre, it does implement machining and technology to a fairly good level.
 
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A new Dune movie could have been as inovative as Avatar.
And it would give a twist to what many see as the future.
 
Yeah, WoW isn't too ingrained into the pop culture of the mainstream. It's more of a geek thing.

Yea and even then not every "nerd" plays WoW anyway... but almost every "nerd" has watched Star Wars
 
I forgot to put the original animated series Avatar: The Last Airbender
 
^^ No, though, I wasn't alive when the originals were released. However, I saw the original tirlogy long before I saw the prequels and I will say that the orginals have had MUCH more of an impact on me, but I don't hate the prequels. Revenge Of The Sith kicks ass, IMO.
 
^^ No, though, I wasn't alive when the originals were released. However, I saw the original tirlogy long before I saw the prequels and I will say that the orginals have had MUCH more of an impact on me, but I don't hate the prequels. Revenge Of The Sith kicks ass, IMO.
Me neither, but the first star wars film i watched was episode II but because i was too young i didn't remember much until i watched again, and the first star wars i watched properly and that made me get into the universe was Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. I watched the plinklet reviews but i still like the prequels because how many error they may have, every single film has too, in fact if you see things in his exact same perspective you can see the same errors in great movies.
 
^^ The prequels weren't out yet when I saw the original trilogy. I, for one, thought Phantom Menace was decent when it came out. Not great, but decent. The final battle was incredible.
 
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