The Incredible Hulk CGI Thread

[Godman]

I finally got around to watching a bit of Hulk '03 the other night, and the effort they put into the creature really showed. Very subtle things - light playing off the skin, moisture affecting the hair, muscles tensing and flexing, etc. - make for effects that hold up remarkably well. Honestly, among the best CGI of its kind ever put to film. It's amazing (and disappointing) to think what ILM would have done with a sequel. Not only because they are the technically superior company, but also because they would have had that experience and depth of knowledge - combined with advancing technology - to draw upon. Shame.

Finally someone with sense on the matter. I did the same thing the other night and that Hulk was frickin technical, man. The tendons and muscles. he was too buff for my tastes but besides the sizing it was the best thing besides King Kong that we have gotten this millenium so far and actually EVER in the CGI department.

 

[Godman]

if you dont like any aspect of the movie just dont watch it, its simple as that

Ed Norton kicks ass in his roles...I'm getting in free so why not.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Dude the Movie was horrible, i never left a cinema so sad after seeing a movie, it was atrocious, not even a perfect CGI Hulk would have saved that disaster. Maybe we don't have a perfect Hulk (from your point of view) but at least we will have a much better movie

 

[Godman]

Dude the Movie was horrible, i never left a cinema so sad after seeing a movie, it was atrocious, not even a perfect CGI Hulk would have saved that disaster. Maybe we don't have a perfect Hulk (from your point of view) but at least we will have a much better movie

It actually got two thumbs waaaaay up and is actually appreciated by people who are into FILMS not pop corn flicks. I actually like the 2003 Hulk A LOT cause it was a thinkers movie. Like how many hated the matrix 2 and 3. Elevated people LOVED those movie cause of the depth and same as Hulk. Only problem with Hulk was it was a banner movie and not Hulk movie which held it's potential back and also the pacing was very bad which made it drag.

 

[Green eyed Hulk]

Dude the Movie was horrible, i never left a cinema so sad after seeing a movie, it was atrocious, not even a perfect CGI Hulk would have saved that disaster. Maybe we don't have a perfect Hulk (from your point of view) but at least we will have a much better movie

I agree, IMO this movie should deliver what the previous one failed to. People have a different perception of what they want from a hulk movie. But from a selfish point of view this movie looks like its ticking all the boxes:

Banner on the run with worldwide locations
Lots of action with daytime and nightime battles
TV series influence
Full transformation
Worthy foe
Great casting
Straight out of the comic book hulk

 

[Godman]

I agree, IMO this movie should deliver what the previous one failed to. People have a different perception of what they want from a hulk movie. But from a selfish point of view this movie looks like its ticking all the boxes:

Banner on the run with worldwide locations
Lots of action with daytime and nightime battles
TV series influence
Full transformation
Worthy foe
Great casting
Straight out of the comic book hulk

Hulk is based on a comic book and not a TV show
Hulk is n adaptation and NOT a comic book. straight out of the comic book???? not a good idea at all

 

[Green eyed Hulk]

It actually got two thumbs waaaaay up and is actually appreciated by people who are into FILMS not pop corn flicks. I actually like the 2003 Hulk A LOT cause it was a thinkers movie. Like how many hated the matrix 2 and 3. Elevated people LOVED those movie cause of the depth and same as Hulk. Only problem with Hulk was it was a banner movie and not Hulk movie which held it's potential back and also the pacing was very bad which made it drag.

It was a very cerebral and deep film maybe thats why Avi Arad calls this hulk "diet Hulk". The thing was it was maybe too deep, for example the way Ang kept using a door as a kind of metaphor and meaning, like when banner is dreaming and the hulk is at the door and i think it slams, then later on when he is scared to open the door of his old house. People were just expecting raw action especially after the trailer.

 

[Green eyed Hulk]

Hulk is n adaptation and NOT a comic book. straight out of the comic book???? not a good idea at all

Well obviously if we're to have a CGI Hulk he would be an adaptation because this is a movie not a comic book.

 

[joefixit2]

It actually got two thumbs waaaaay up and is actually appreciated by people who are into FILMS not pop corn flicks. I actually like the 2003 Hulk A LOT cause it was a thinkers movie. Like how many hated the matrix 2 and 3. Elevated people LOVED those movie cause of the depth and same as Hulk. Only problem with Hulk was it was a banner movie and not Hulk movie which held it's potential back and also the pacing was very bad which made it drag.

The first Hulk movie would have been great if I wanted to go see a movie they could show on PBS but I didn't. I wanted to see a movie that represented the comic book character I was reading for the past 30 years. And that movie was not it. My kids went in there and were bored the first 45 minutes. Don't spend $100M on a movie that will bore kids. Was it a totally bad movie? No, I did enjoy it somewhat but I left not filling like it hit the target on what a Hulk movie should be.

 

[Chewy]

It actually got two thumbs waaaaay up and is actually appreciated by people who are into FILMS not pop corn flicks. I actually like the 2003 Hulk A LOT cause it was a thinkers movie. Like how many hated the matrix 2 and 3. Elevated people LOVED those movie cause of the depth and same as Hulk. Only problem with Hulk was it was a banner movie and not Hulk movie which held it's potential back and also the pacing was very bad which made it drag.

lol. Personally, I think it's pretty *****ey to group one's self in with a supposedly "higher class" of people who can appreciate "deep" cinema far more than the common man, but to each their own I guess.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

It actually got two thumbs waaaaay up and is actually appreciated by people who are into FILMS not pop corn flicks. I actually like the 2003 Hulk A LOT cause it was a thinkers movie. Like how many hated the matrix 2 and 3. Elevated people LOVED those movie cause of the depth and same as Hulk. Only problem with Hulk was it was a banner movie and not Hulk movie which held it's potential back and also the pacing was very bad which made it drag.

Hey im into films, but because someone is into films doesn't mean you have to enjoy a major bore fest. The film tried to be to serious and dramatic and i failed horribly, the jellyfish images made no sense at all, it tried to be artistic and looked stupid, the ending was probably the worst i have ever seen, Hulk looked great in some scenes but cartoony in others. Its not a good film, its not the worst i have ever seen (i saw AVP 2 the other night and that is a major contender for worst movie ever) but Hulk cant be too serious and slow, i haven't seen the new movie but it has to be horrendous to be even worst than Hulk

 

[FrostBite]

Lol, this topic has become such a joke in a matter of pages.

 

[Chewy]

I hear that. I usually get a good chuckle whenever people start throwing out phrases like "elevated people". I got an especially good chuckle here, since it was related to the Matrix sequels.

 

[hame4479]

You guys suck that was a deep quality film with awesome action. It simply lacked a good serious villian and that was what ultimately destroyed it. If there was a badass ending fight you would all probably be sending a different message. the effects were awesome and I can't help but think that anyone who bashes on that movie must have no real respect for true artistic filmmaking and the genre as a whole. Ang is a talented director who put togethor a good cast, and got alot out of them. You people simply wanted mindless fun and instead were asked to use your brains.

 

[M.O.Steel]

it's so strange. at first i was thinking...wow, this trailer is amazing, the CG actually doesn't look bad, much better than befo...man what the hell was that. hopefully those shots get polished up before the end product.

 

[FrostBite]

lol. Personally, I think it's pretty *****ey to group one's self in with a supposedly "higher class" of people who can appreciate "deep" cinema far more than the common man, but to each their own I guess.

He's a joke. It's like a fat old man that thinks he's better because he plays Golf at a country club.

Ahem, let me get into character and slap my monocle on.

-coughs- I say ol' bean, as it seems "The Incredible Hulk" does seem to be for those only interested in very art that is film. Why you may ask? Because we have a higher standard that that those lower common folk with no appreciation for good action coreography. It is as if are watching the beast and the American infantry dance a sweet tango that could only be delivered to us in such a stylized manner as only, a one: LL can execute.

A kinetic camera, with an extremely visual director? -kisses finger tips- I say, he did seem rather unused for his last two projects, but now the talent, the raw sheer imagination and blatant love for the cinema seems to be simply oozing out of Louis.

It is only to bad these commoners... these... wretches.. cannot appreciate what appears to be simply a masterpiece in adaptation history.







....

 

[ArtTeacher]

Indiana Jones had a black line throughout the entire screening, so we got free passes to anything else we want. Happening is whats happening and I will pay for the likes of that, but Hulk...free pass

Oh, I get it now!
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very special guest with us on SuperHeroHype!
Godman is actually famous director M. Night Shamalamadingdong!
Welcome!

By the way, I'm only going to buy a ticket to the last 60 seconds of "The Happening," since that will be the only part of the movie that even matters a little.

The first Hulk movie would have been great if I wanted to go see a movie they could show on PBS but I didn't. I wanted to see a movie that represented the comic book character I was reading for the past 30 years. And that movie was not it. My kids went in there and were bored the first 45 minutes. Don't spend $100M on a movie that will bore kids. Was it a totally bad movie? No, I did enjoy it somewhat but I left not filling like it hit the target on what a Hulk movie should be.

Great post. Well said. Joe, you're a veritable giant in the "Hulk Community". You've made your presence known world-wide for doing nothing more than what we all do; love the Hulk. Kudos to you, my friend. You have credibility; when you speak, I listen.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

Oh, I get it now!
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very special guest with us on SuperHeroHype!
Godman is actually famous director M. Night Shamalamadingdong!
Welcome!

By the way, I'm only going to buy a ticket to the last 60 seconds of "The Happening," since that will be the only part of the movie that even matters a little.

LOL. You consistently have the wittiest posts Art.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

The first Hulk movie would have been great if I wanted to go see a movie they could show on PBS but I didn't. I wanted to see a movie that represented the comic book character I was reading for the past 30 years. And that movie was not it. My kids went in there and were bored the first 45 minutes. Don't spend $100M on a movie that will bore kids. Was it a totally bad movie? No, I did enjoy it somewhat but I left not filling like it hit the target on what a Hulk movie should be.

Very well put. I felt much the same. Letdown.

 

[Godman]

Hey im into films, but because someone is into films doesn't mean you have to enjoy a major bore fest. The film tried to be to serious and dramatic and i failed horribly, the jellyfish images made no sense at all, it tried to be artistic and looked stupid, the ending was probably the worst i have ever seen, Hulk looked great in some scenes but cartoony in others. Its not a good film, its not the worst i have ever seen (i saw AVP 2 the other night and that is a major contender for worst movie ever) but Hulk cant be too serious and slow, i haven't seen the new movie but it has to be horrendous to be even worst than Hulk

It actually didn't fail at being smart and deep cause MANY appreciated that. It isn't a great repeat viewing, but not bad for those who love intelligent movies.

It actually was VERY artistic and looked great...and u say ur into films. If you were actually a deep thinker and smart enough, you'd understand that Jelly fish have a regeneration, healing factor that the father was splicing into making the Hulk more believable than a gamma bomb which alone would give you some kind of cancer and kill you in a matter of months.

it made sense that he was a mutant and that not any ordinary character could become Hulk and contain the gamma effect like Bruce could. it made more sense than I know this movie will if it truly is going straight off the comic. I know it's a fictional world, but based on our plausibilities and grounded on our science. I agree the ending was terrible which is one of my beefs. The inconsistencies in Hulk did do damage to the realism, but the movie was for an intelligent crowd who actually grew up in that era when he was created and then some.

most adults with hopefully more elevated mind frames appreciated the movie, but not everyone gets movies like Matrix or the deep concepts used in the new Indiana Jones. Some people are just simple minded and live life that way which is ok.

Hulk 2003 was a good movie for what it tried but only an IDIOT would say that the artistic direction failed. Ang Lee is a cinematic mogul who did his part as the director, but made mistakes in approving such a script.

 

[colossal]

Thats the thing Godman, its just your opinion that all the scenes look bad, or look like Van Helsing. It your opinion that Indy 4 will be remembered for years to come, and it will, but some will remember the excessive and unwarranted CGI and often absurd plotlines as opposed to remembering it as one of the better Indy films.

Id like a bit more detail from your opinion though, why is the CGI in every scene so bad for you, anything in particular that makes the quality seem poor? Some examples might help the forum understand your opinion a bit better.

I can give many reasons for while I feel the CGI is great, from the way the muscles tighten and flex, the way the sweat glistens on his textured face, the transformation looking seamless from what we've seen so far - and this is from trailers and clips, not the final movie. It could look better, it could look worse, but I am interested in the opinions of those that think that its far from great.

 

[ArtTeacher]

LOL. You consistently have the wittiest posts Art.

Hey, thanks, man! I try.
You're no slouch, yourself!


Here's some fun summer reading for you all:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=14913690&postcount=41

 

[Mercurius]

The first Hulk movie would have been great if I wanted to go see a movie they could show on PBS but I didn't. I wanted to see a movie that represented the comic book character I was reading for the past 30 years. And that movie was not it. My kids went in there and were bored the first 45 minutes. Don't spend $100M on a movie that will bore kids. Was it a totally bad movie? No, I did enjoy it somewhat but I left not filling like it hit the target on what a Hulk movie should be.

That's just an absurd argument, supposing that grown people will only get interested in something that won't bore kids.

A get really bored with hectic stuff they do in order to keep kids in a frenzy like chimps.

Even more: I'm a moviegoer, not an exec. So I don't give a damn if execs will swim in money after it is released, I want a great movie.

 

[FrostBite]

Godman has got to go on everyones ignore list. I am not sure if this elevated mind thing is a joke or if he really believes it. Hopefully it turns out to be some failed attempt at humor because clearly, with posts written in a way that I can only attach a Seventh Graders voice too, I simply cannot think that this "elevated mind" talk is serious.

Listen Godman, I suggest you take the personal ego stroking elsewhere. I don't think anyone wants to watch you enlarge it here. (Ew... Frostbite you so nasty!)

If you really believe all of this elevated mind dribble then please go ahead, live in a tiny fantasy world where pretentious art makes you better than commoners. Just please do it in the privacy of your sheets where you can get off on this kind of thing, rather in a forum of people where you consistently beat people with it.

Ironically Godman, you are not the almighty God of SHH, you don't choose to get to tell people what to think, what to do, and when to do it. And you living your life one way or thinking a certain freaking media is ace doesn't make you "elevated" it just makes you well... a series of words Frostbite isn't allowed to say on the Hype.

 

[Kirmit]

That's just an absurd argument, supposing that grown people will only get interested in something that won't bore kids.

A get really bored with hectic stuff they do in order to keep kids in a frenzy like chimps.

Even more: I'm a moviegoer, not an exec. So I don't give a damn if execs will swim in money after it is released, I want a great movie.

I don't think that's what he was saying, he's saying Hulk is a universally liked character but people of all ages, you can't make a psychological hulk movie because that excludes alot of his fanbase, kids. Yes you vcan have thought provoking moments and emotional scenes not to the extreme that ang did it, making most of the movie too complex for alot of people to understand. I myself love the film but I can see why alot of people wouldn't.