The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones

[SpideyFan866]

I wonder if Divergent will suffer a similar fate.

Definitely.

People are starting to grow sick of these "Twilight-esque" adaptations. At least, the ones with no real effort put into them to make them stand out.

The only reason people were receptive to The Hunger Games was because.... well.... it was good. And you could see that, at least SOME, effort was put into it. And it didn't reek of studio cash in.

Also, the actors in The Hunger Games, especially the "name" actors, were, at least, trying to give good performances. In films like The Host, and Mortal Instruments in a way, it just felt like they didn't really want to be there.

 

[SpideyFan866]

And even then Narnia didn't keep up that steam at all.

So I just found out the author of this series is a popular fan fiction writer as well. So did this start as another 50 Shades of Grey thing?

Not really true. The franchise was, and sorta is, still popular. However, when the franchise bounced from Disney to Fox after the second film, it began to suffer. And mainly due to a lackluster 3rd film.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Not really true. The franchise was, and sorta is, still popular. However, when the franchise bounced from Disney to Fox after the second film, it began to suffer. And mainly due to a lackluster 3rd film.

True but I never really saw anyone clamoring for more Narnia. Prince Caspian was a step up, but the third one was not very good imo. Just never seemed to really have the hype I think they were expecting.

 

[kvz5]

I've never read this book nor do I know the author so I was surprised when I read how this author is a huge plagiarizer. Yikes.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^That's another reason why I'm glad this movie didn't do well. In a way I'm always rooting on female led films to do well but I had trouble rooting on The Mortal Instruments because of what I read about the Author. Only after she was caught did she admit to using others work for her Harry Potter fan fiction. The Mortal Instruments is just a re-worked version of her Potter fan fiction.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I'm rooting for female led films as well but they need to do more to reel in a male audience audience with a female lead. Not too read like mansplanation of what's wrong, but I think they're targeting the female youth audience too much in these books, adaptations, and marketing. The Hunger Games movie was a big success because it minimized things that would turn-off men from seeing the movie and was more of a product for a general mass audience. The Twilight film saga may have succeeded only targeting girls and women but it's a rarity.

 

[kvz5]

^That's another reason why I'm glad this movie didn't do well. In a way I'm always rooting on female led films to do well but I had trouble rooting on The Mortal Instruments because of what I read about the Author. Only after she was caught did she admit to using others work for her Harry Potter fan fiction. The Mortal Instruments is just a re-worked version of her Potter fan fiction.

The stuff I've read about her just made me sick so yeah I can't get myself to root for her success.

http://swingsetindecember.tumblr.co...n-you-explain-the-cassandra-claire-plagiarism
https://www.google.com/#fp=15d3c796e742e0ac&q=mortal+instruments+plagiarism

 

[dark_b]

hollywood still doesnt get why twilight was big. a young vampire and a young girl trying to become a vampire.

when will they understand that it that it was about sex.

 

[dark_b]

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Lol.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I saw this because I can't be the decider as to what movies we get to see every time! And of course this time it just so happened to be this one...

Lily Collins was a more invested performer than I remember Kristen Stewart ever being in what I remember of the first Twilight, so that was a plus. There were a lot of jump scares and more violence than I anticipated. It of course had the very cliched love triangle crap going on with angry men-boys pining after the girl [blackout]and incest overtones. But maybe it all isn't as it seems from what someone told me who's familiar with the series.[/blackout] There was WAY too much exposition and I got lost understanding what the purpose of the macguffin was or why certain characters do what they did, possibly because it's buried under a mountain of rubble. There were too many characters and the movie was too long anyway. Nothing memorable about the music and the CG was mostly crap. Somehow I've seen worse and at least I didn't fall asleep, unlike Twilight (the sudden jump scare sound cues would have woken me up possibly anyway.) Jonathan Rhys Meyers [blackout]is the villain and DADDY and he did all right[/blackout].

A soft 4 (3.75) out of 10

 

[DigificWriter]

Feels like anything "young adult" these days is trying to be either the new Harry Potter or the new Twilight

How is an Urban Fantasy series (TMI) in any way comparable to a Paranormal Romance (Twilight) and a High/Epic Fantasy series (Harry Potter)?

Just because TMI, HP, and Twilight are geared towards Young Adult readers doesn't in any way make them similar.

I've been wanting to read the series for a while, but haven't had a chance yet.

I did go see the movie, though, and thought it was pretty good.

I've never read this book nor do I know the author so I was surprised when I read how this author is a huge plagiarizer. Yikes.

Two things:
1) The only person she's guilty of plagiarizing with The Mortal Instruments as published is herself. She might not have owned the copyrights for the fandoms she wrote for, but TMI as published has absolutely nothing in common with those fandoms, and the specific material she repurposed was her own intellectual property

2) I find it silly and ironic that she was accused of plagiarism - by fans - in the course of writing fanfiction

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Oh yeah, I also recently got to see The Host. It got awful reviews but I liked it more than TMI and Twilight (it's from the same author). The cinematography was better, the acting was better, it wasn't packed with violence at all so I can see how some could hate it for "lack of action". It also could have benefited from being shorter. But I liked the simplicity of it compared to the drowning, confusing exposition of TMI.

 

[Ultimatehero]

I just saw it and I liked it. 7 out of 10. It had an interesting world, interesting characters, and combined elements of the horror genre. I would have given it higher than a 7, but the beginning hour or thirty minutes is weak. I also loved how this was the first mainstream movie that had a LGBT dude that wasn't presented in the cliche, for mainstream films in America that's a giant leap forward. I should say Twilight never interested me -- too much focus on romance, Beautiful Creatures didn't do anything for me, I couldn't get through the first half hour of The Host. I did like 'I Am Number Four,' 'Roswell' (old WB), and 'Smallville' which in tone I'd say this is more like those. Not so much romance that it becomes a chick flick, but just the right amount of fantasy and action that it balances out.

 

[slumcat]

Lol this is what happens when you green light the sequel of a young adult film without the first film having come out.

The second film was green lit and the entire cast was ready and their schedules were locked and the script was ready, they were basically going on the floors in a few months and the film was already in pre-production but now it has been "delayed".

"Delayed" in this case means shelved in a few months. This film got bull **** reviews and just bombed at the box office right out of the gate. So yeah, good bye to sequels.

 

[slumcat]

http://collider.com/mortal-instruments-sequel-city-of-ashes-delayed/

 

[Teelie]

If that didn't bite them in the ass...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I was shocked that they had greenlit the sequel before the first film came out. Everyone was skeptical that the first movie would be a hit, except the delusional production company and fans. I didn't dislike the trailer but it wasn't special enough for me to actually go out and see the film.

This whole thing is embarrassing. I was always cringing when the director and actors were talking like the sequel was a done deal and the media tried to make Camilla Belle 2.0 the new hot actress.

The studio was being incredibly arrogant in every possible way so I'm pleased that it failed. The ridiculous thing is that they will string fans along for the next year or so. Also there would be no public shame if the studio hadn't foolishly greenlit a sequel to a film that hadn't even come out and was always tracking poorly. I still can't wrap my mind around why the studio thought they had the next big YA movie series?

 

[dark_b]

they dont think. they just do things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWeh4A600E0

 

[Jordacar]

True but I never really saw anyone clamoring for more Narnia. Prince Caspian was a step up, but the third one was not very good imo. Just never seemed to really have the hype I think they were expecting.

That's because the first one is really the only one you need, while everything after that is a bunch of unnecessary sequels. So even though there are fun adventures to be had in the later books, it's not like Harry Potter where right from the beginning there was a larger saga waiting to be completed.

 

[dark_b]

people are not searching for a bigger story in sequels that is connected. the public was just not interested in the Narnia franchise IMO.

 

[slumcat]

Dunno if there are fans of the books here but when the first one came out, I tried reading the books. They really are for kids. Like literally below 12. They wouldn't appeal to anyone else. I read the first one and then absolutely gave up. And I gave up the first film in the middle knowing that it wasn't for me at all.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

After the failure of The Host, Beautiful Creatures (which I like) and The Mortal Instruments can the vapid entertainment media stop trying to treat every young actress as if they are the next big actress? Pretty please with cherries on top.

BTW: I think S. Ronan is terrific young actress who will have a long career and I liked Woodley in The Descendants but I'm skeptical of Divergent. Ronan deserved a better looking (I haven't seen The Host so I can't truly call it good or bad) star vehicle than The Host that's forsure.

 

[slumcat]

I think all these girlly teen franchises are ****. Twilight was successful because it was first out of the gate.

Hunger Games was successful because the lead just happened to be a girl, in the sense the lead was a person without their gender being paramount, it was actually an action film and the lead female was extremely un-girly, in the sense she was not consumed by matters of love but was a person with normal and rational concerns.

 

[Octoberist]

Constantin Films isn't the greatest, and I would consider to be completely out of touch.