The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 4

[Tony Stark]

WB's not going to reboot Lantern this fast. It's either nothing or moving forward with a sequel.

They're to invested in the DC properties taking the place of Potter for the duration for them to reboot Lantern.

If that's the reasoning then it's DOA. And they're really not vested in the DC properties and never have been. Before the failed Superman Returns it was years and years of failed Superman scripts, and attached writers/directors.

WB is a badly managed company.

 

[The Sage]

If that's the reasoning then it's DOA. And they're really not vested in the DC properties and never have been. Before the failed Superman Returns it was years and years of failed Superman scripts, and attached writers/directors.

WB is a badly managed company.

At least when it comes to their comic book film properties.

 

[EML420]

Burton was what Nolan is now to DC more or less I rember that he was suppose to direct a superman film but that never happened Nolan isnt directing but hes behind the scenes of the next superman film. WB gotta get it together I mean Jack Black was almost Green Lantern.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

The 1st Punisher couldn't get the location, characters, story, or even the violence right. While the 2nd one was overly cheesy and almost a parody of itself, it got the violence, tone, and attitude of the main character pretty good.

Punisher: War Zone was the perfect cinematic representation of Garth Ennis' Punisher, IMO. The problem is that what works in the comic doesn't necessarily translate to the bigger audience of cinema. Which makes me concerned about the attempts to put Preacher into live action, because that's even more ridiculous and absurd.

 

[Sam Fisher]

IMO Punisher 04 is a much better movie than P:WZ. War Zone is one of the worst movies I've ever seen, probably Batman and Robin level.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Sounds more to me like many on here are looking for any reason to not like it.

Is it a perfect movie....nope, I haven't seen one yet. Seen many that are darn great and moving and touch me deeply......and I've seen many that are crap. Green Lantern is neiter the bestest or the worstest. To me it was a fun romp that kept me entertained. If it didn't entertain some of the rest of you...well, that's what free will and opinions are about. It just really seems to me that people are eager to put it down...and to put down those that liked it.

I just saw it again but in 3D this time and I was listening to people all around me as the credits rolled. At least where I was sitting the response to the other person saying "what did you think?" or something similar was ..." I really liked it!" and "I want to be a Green Lantern" and so on. So it would seem that it is primarily fanboys and Critics doing the bulk of the whining not the GA.

Is it a perfect movie? No, but it is perfect for 2hrs of Summer fun. I just wished JNH had come up with a better theme, which seemed like he wanted to do something Supermanish but couldn't come close. Green Lantern: First Flight had a much better theme. Other than that though, I liked it it was fun and that is all I wanted so it delivered for me.

 

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Punisher: War Zone was the perfect cinematic representation of Garth Ennis' Punisher, IMO. The problem is that what works in the comic doesn't necessarily translate to the bigger audience of cinema. Which makes me concerned about the attempts to put Preacher into live action, because that's even more ridiculous and absurd.

I somewhat agree with you. I do think that Ray Stevenson makes a better Punisher than Thomas Jane, but some of the dialogue and action sequences (shooting that guy with a rocket launcher) were beyond ridiculous, even in the realm of comics. I enjoyed it. Own the blu ray.

 

[CelticPredator]

IMO Punisher 04 is a much better movie than P:WZ. War Zone is one of the worst movies I've ever seen, probably Batman and Robin level.

Pfft. War Zone was better. Everyone's heads explode, and it has extreme violence. That makes it a better.

 

[jacobed]

I just saw it again but in 3D this time and I was listening to people all around me as the credits rolled. At least where I was sitting the response to the other person saying "what did you think?" or something similar was ..." I really liked it!" and "I want to be a Green Lantern" and so on. So it would seem that it is primarily fanboys and Critics doing the bulk of the whining not the GA.

Is it a perfect movie? No, but it is perfect for 2hrs of Summer fun. I just wished JNH had come up with a better theme, which seemed like he wanted to do something Supermanish but couldn't come close. Green Lantern: First Flight had a much better theme. Other than that though, I liked it it was fun and that is all I wanted so it delivered for me.

Not in my theatre. Few people walked out around halfway through and when it was done there were a lot of that sucked and I heard a guy say he wanted his money back. I don't think its that bad but my audience did not enjoy it.

 

[The Morningstar]

In my audience people laughed during the flashback scene.

When people are laughing at the most emotional scene in the whole movie? Uh oh.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Pfft. War Zone was better. Everyone's heads explode, and it has extreme violence. That makes it a better.

Yes, and one of the worst scripts to ever grace the screen

 

[piccolo]

Maybe the expectation that this movie was going to be horrible helped me appreciate it more, but I didn't think it was that bad at all. Genuinely funny moments, fun CGI Lantern fights, yeah the story was rushed and not very strong but it was fun and entertaining. About as good as the Incredible Hulk movie. Solid B- or C+ for me.

 

[akfj]

At least when it comes to their comic book film properties.

Yeah, for the first half of this year WB is #3 in studio market share, so they are doing some things right: http://boxofficemojo.com/studio/

Before this year, they were #1 three years in a row.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Pfft. War Zone was better. Everyone's heads explode, and it has extreme violence. That makes it a better.

 

[EML420]

I saw the movie Friday the at the earliest showing the early bird its cheaper lol when I went to see it was packed I had some stranger sit next to that rarley happens when I go to early bird showings. After words I didnt hear anybody say anything about it being good or not.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

The Punisher (2004) came close but not close enough.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yes, and one of the worst scripts to ever grace the screen

Heads explodin >>>> Script.

 

[Rowsdower!]

That is one of the sad things about modern comic fans. Negativity rules and rudeness is a way of life. When I was a kid....we hoped prayed and wished for a movie or TV show to be made from a comic book. It seems the **cough** fans of today....hope pray and wish for all comic based movies to fail so that they can say I TOLD YOU SO or so that they can then very lengthly explain how they would have done it better.

I miss the days when being a comic fan meant you were a geek, nerd, bokworm.....not a meanspirited rude crude pessimist.

I feel the exact same way, man. Unfortunately, I think the Internet has ruined the fun that comic book movies used to be. Even in the 90s, when CBMs tended to be lower-quality and even less faithful to the source material, I think the general response to them was more positive overall because fans didn't have an outlet to reduce everything until it barely even exists.

I guess I could understand some of the criticisms of GL if I thought fans and critics held ALL comic book movies to the same standards. Bad dialogue? Excuse me, but that line at the end of TDK where Batman says something like "this city showed you that it's filled with people who believe in good" is one of the worst lines in any movie I've ever heard. Mary Jane's confession that she loves Peter in Spider-Man is so out-of-the-blue that it left me thinking, "Huh? Did I miss something?" Bad dialogue exists in every single comic book movie somewhere. But for the life of me, I can't remember one line in GL that made me cringe, other than maybe Hector screaming like a girl.

But so what? They're just movies, and movies aren't perfect, like you said. CBMs have the difficult task of encompassing decades of stories into 2 hours of so. I've been really pleased with all of our movie superheroes this summer, and it's a shame that people aren't digging Green Lantern. I really do think that the bad reviews made some people walk into this movie determined to hate it. Maybe not, but it's certainly a possibility.

 

[Lighthouse]

I'm getting a little tired of the "It's not perfect defense". No one is expecting perfection, or even greatness. People who like the movie shouldn't get pigeonholed, but people who don't, including the critics, should also not be pigeonholed into lunatic haters or elitist a-holes. It's not fair.

 

[Spider-Fan]

That is one of the sad things about modern comic fans. Negativity rules and rudeness is a way of life. When I was a kid....we hoped prayed and wished for a movie or TV show to be made from a comic book. It seems the **cough** fans of today....hope pray and wish for all comic based movies to fail so that they can say I TOLD YOU SO or so that they can then very lengthly explain how they would have done it better.

I miss the days when being a comic fan meant you were a geek, nerd, bokworm.....not a meanspirited rude crude pessimist.

I agree with this. Everyone has to make this about DC vs Marvel whine fests anymore, and gloat when something fails. I have no problems critiquing this movie or discussing if it was a financial disappointment, but I have tried remaining respectful while doing so. I wanted this film to succeed as much as anyone. I'm sad it looks like it won't.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm getting a little tired of the "It's not perfect defense". No one is expecting perfection, or even greatness. People who like the movie shouldn't get pigeonholed, but people who don't, including the critics, should also not be pigeonholed into lunatic haters or elitist a-holes. It's not fair.

I agree that it's not perfect is not really a defense, and respectful criticism should be welcome.

 

[Arach Knight]

Hammond shouldn't have been in this movie. Take him out and have the advance of Parallax on Oa be the overarching tension leading to the climactic battle. Lengthen Hal's training (not necessarily by showing more training, but by hinting that more time passed) and have his failure come on a mission with Sinestro. Hal would go back to Earth, where he regains his confidence, and then shows up for the battle of Oa.

This would have really saved the movie. Because the Corps does not have the most well known rogues gallery, I imagine they threw Hector into this for the sake of having someone "familiar enough." I don't think they needed to get rid of Hector altogether, but what bothered me was the presumptuous portrayal of his relationship to Hal and Carol. This film could have been used to show how the character has a past relationship with the character, further motivating him in a sequel to be a villain. That is one of the things that worked so well with Harry's slow turn in Spider-Man 2. Here, it is literally foisted upon the audience during the contract celebration. I felt that Hector was well written, but ultimately ill-placed in this film. To that end, he was as distracting as The Sandman was in Spider-Man 3.

With that said, I agree with the rest of your suggestions. It would have made for a stronger film if more attention was brought to Parallax and a battle with the entire Corps. Also, giving Hal a genuine failure would have made his subsequent return to earth seem far more understandable. Quitting because people are giving you a hard time during BT, makes Hal seem less like he is afraid, and more like he is a quitter and a coward regardless of the circumstance. I would have much rather seen Hal deal with a genuine disappointment.

 

[CelticPredator]

I thought Ang's Hulk delivered on the action scenes. That 20 minute romp through the desert was better than anything in the new Hulk movie.

I disagree so ****ing much. That desert thing was boring. He's just running...STOP RUNNING AND BREAK ****.

Incredible Hulk was awesome.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

I feel the exact same way, man. Unfortunately, I think the Internet has ruined the fun that comic book movies used to be. Even in the 90s, when CBMs tended to be lower-quality and even less faithful to the source material, I think the general response to them was more positive overall because fans didn't have an outlet to reduce everything until it barely even exists.

I guess I could understand some of the criticisms of GL if I thought fans and critics held ALL comic book movies to the same standards. Bad dialogue? Excuse me, but that line at the end of TDK where Batman says something like "this city showed you that it's filled with people who believe in good" is one of the worst lines in any movie I've ever heard. Mary Jane's confession that she loves Peter in Spider-Man is so out-of-the-blue that it left me thinking, "Huh? Did I miss something?" Bad dialogue exists in every single comic book movie somewhere. But for the life of me, I can't remember one line in GL that made me cringe, other than maybe Hector screaming like a girl.

But so what? They're just movies, and movies aren't perfect, like you said. CBMs have the difficult task of encompassing decades of stories into 2 hours of so. I've been really pleased with all of our movie superheroes this summer, and it's a shame that people aren't digging Green Lantern. I really do think that the bad reviews made some people walk into this movie determined to hate it. Maybe not, but it's certainly a possibility.

A lot people expect high quality CBM's because it's been shown again and again that CBM's can turn out amazing. Why settle for medicore, when great movies can be produced?

 

[Doctor Jones]

I haven't seen anyone yet saying, "I told you so" and wishing this movie to fail from the beginning. Unless they try to turn it into a stupid Marvel vs DC thing, that's about it. When a superhero film succeeds in both aspects, all comic book fans should be grateful. Kevin Fiege put it perfectly: "Their success is our success."

Sure we hope for a movie, but when it finally comes along and sucks, that doesn't make people ungrateful. If the movie sucks at the end of the day, that really doesn't matter to the person anymore. I'm grateful a GL movie was even made, but this was a waste of a film. I can't ask what the point was to making this. There was a point. A strong potential one. It just failed miserably. A damn shame. Because I was excited about this from when I read the first draft nearly three years ago.