The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 5

[The Guard]

Wait...now we're *****ing because the will-powered, magic ring that makes giant light constructs isn't scientifically plausible?

30 seconds on Google later...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070506160623.htm

 

[DaveMoral]

I gotta agree the sci-fi in gl was embarrassingly non existent. First off light has no mass so the idea of a construct being built by pure light is retarted. It wouldn't even had taken much to fix it, the power of will should of been out. The green energy could of just been manufactured by some kind of energy source like a crystal like in the Gl animated movie. Then you just throw in something like the ring energy can manipulate gravity now the idea of a construct is possible. This is a real life idea that we see everyday in video games. If you can manipulate gravity there isn't anything the GL do that wouldn't be possible.

Do you give as much scrutiny to Star Wars? Lightsabers? The Force?

Yeesh.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Do you give as much scrutiny to Star Wars? Lightsabers? The Force?

Yeesh.

People like that are the reason they put Midichlorians(sp) in Star Wars.

 

[KalMart]

Do you give as much scrutiny to Star Wars? Lightsabers? The Force?

Yeesh.

For the lousy episodes, yeah.

 

[Paradox1]

Do you give as much scrutiny to Star Wars? Lightsabers? The Force?

Yeesh.

and yes I do, in Star Wars they have clearily demonstrated a their ability to manipulate gravity thats why there cars fly, and in the spaceships they don't float around endlessly. That same manipulation of gravity could be used to focus light into the shape of a sword. The force has Lucas has said is a from from a microscopic organims that live in all living things Jedi don't have any real powers but instead manipulate this microscopic organism.

Wait...now we're *****ing because the will-powered, magic ring that makes giant light constructs isn't scientifically plausible?

30 seconds on Google later...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070506160623.htm

Thats a theory that one day may be proved as science fact, but right what we do know for sure is light has no mass, and the only thing that control a light particle is gravity example look at Blackhole no light passes through it.

 

[KalMart]

and yes I do, in Star Wars they have clearily demonstrated a their ability to manipulate gravity thats why there cars fly, and in the spaceships they don't float around endlessly. That same manipulation of gravity could be used to focus light into the shape of a sword. The force has Lucas has said is a from from a microscopic organims that live in all living things Jedi don't have any real powers but instead manipulate this microscopic organism.

So do those microscopic organisms suddenly leave their host body and lift a big rock, spaceship, lightsaber, or robot....or guide a photon torpedo into a ventilation shaft....or carry a message to another person miles away...or force someone to repeat/think what you're saying/suggesting?

Those are some amazing microscopic organisms. no?

 

[Paradox1]

My point is if GL payed more attention to the details focued more on being a sci-fi epic instead of what it was. The movie would of been awesome and something more people would of felt good about.

 

[KalMart]

My point is if GL payed more attention to the details focued more on being a sci-fi epic instead of what it was. The movie would of been awesome and something more people would of felt good about.

Not if it was made just as badly.

 

[The Sage]

My point is if GL payed more attention to the details focued more on being a sci-fi epic instead of what it was. The movie would of been awesome and something more people would of felt good about.

If Green Lantern had a much stronger script it could've been the epic it should've been. Focusing on those details mean nothing if the story isn't good.

Case in point, the midichlorians' introduction in the prequels didn't stop the movies from being ill-received and considered weaker than the originals. The problems lied with the script.

 

[Paradox1]

Speak for yourself I loved the prequels and they were better recieved than GL. The details aren't just the science, the details could be about parallax, Sinestro, The guardians, OA, Or Abin Sur. .It tends to be symptom of a bigger problem when little details are ignored.

 

[KalMart]

Speak for yourself I loved the prequels and they were better recieved than GL. The details aren't just the science, the details could be about parallax, Sinestro, The guardians, OA, Or Abin Sur. When you ignore the small details you tend to ignore other details as well.

Details add flavor, but if it's a bad script and bad storytelling/filmmaking...it's like putting sprinkles on sh#t.

It's still sh#t.

 

[The Sage]

Speak for yourself I loved the prequels and they were better recieved than GL. The details aren't just the science, the details could be about parallax, Sinestro, The guardians, OA, Or Abin Sur. .It tends to be symptom of a bigger problem when little details are ignored.

I'm not speaking for myself, the prequels are generally considered weaker than the originals by most of the audience.

Details can enhance a story and make it better but the story itself has be good and strong first. That's all I'm saying.

 

[KRIM]

Coming back from TF3, I'm even more disappointed with GL.

Long story short, Bay just s--tted on everyone this summer. There is no chance in hell anyone is topping the massive spectacle and entertainment he just provided. That last hour is easily the single most greatest set of action sequences I've seen in a modern blockbuster.

"EPIC" is exactly what Bay achieved in that film. It's sad even its first hour already a larger scope than the entirety of GL. And guess what? It all took place on Earth.

Good riddance on this production. GL as a brand, and its fanbase deserved so much more.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Long story short, Bay just s--tted on everyone this summer.

At least that part is true, but probably not in the way you meant.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Coming back from TF3, I'm even more disappointed with GL.

Long story short, Bay just s--tted on everyone this summer. There is no chance in hell anyone is topping the massive spectacle and entertainment he just provided. That last hour is easily the single most greatest set of action sequences I've seen in a modern blockbuster.

"EPIC" is exactly what Bay achieved in that film. It's sad even its first hour already a larger scope than the entirety of GL. And guess what? It all took place on Earth.

Good riddance on this production. GL as a brand, and its fanbase deserved so much more.

After watching Transformers 2 I wanted to kill myself. No way in hell am I watching this crap.

 

[KRIM]

After watching Transformers 2 I wanted to kill myself. No way in hell am I watching this crap.

If it's any consolation, I was actually in the same boat. I loved TF1, loathed TF2 with a passion. I was ready to boycott TF3 based on my disappointment with that alone.

But I'm glad I didn't. If you've liked Bay before, this is him at his very best. Bar none. I'm pretty convinced that until Avatar 2 comes along, not a single blockbuster will be released from now that will come close to the level of scale and spectacle that this film reached. I'm not sure how the 2D screenings went, but I'd be surprised if the majority of audiences watching in IMAX 3D, don't come out extremely pleased.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I'm sure Avatar 2 will be edited like a film though. Is Transformers 3 still edited as if the editor guzzled down gallons of sugar?

 

[KRIM]

It's still frenzied, but not anywhere near the dizzying levels in TF2. Bay addressed the erratic camera/editing issues well enough without sacrificing his style. For plenty of the money shots, he took a page out of Snyder's book and employed slow motion.

 

[DaveMoral]

and yes I do, in Star Wars they have clearily demonstrated a their ability to manipulate gravity thats why there cars fly, and in the spaceships they don't float around endlessly. That same manipulation of gravity could be used to focus light into the shape of a sword. The force has Lucas has said is a from from a microscopic organims that live in all living things Jedi don't have any real powers but instead manipulate this microscopic organism.



Thats a theory that one day may be proved as science fact, but right what we do know for sure is light has no mass, and the only thing that control a light particle is gravity example look at Blackhole no light passes through it.

Wow, dude. I don't think you even really understand what's going on with Star Wars. And you certainly don't know what actual Star Wars material says about lightsabers and how they work. You definitely don't know what the Force is or even the midi-chlorians. Midi-chlorians =/= The Force.

Star Wars is space fantasy. GL is space fantasy. There's very little difference between the two.

 

[Iron_Stark]

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[Paradox1]

Wow, dude. I don't think you even really understand what's going on with Star Wars. And you certainly don't know what actual Star Wars material says about lightsabers and how they work. You definitely don't know what the Force is or even the midi-chlorians. Midi-chlorians =/= The Force.

Star Wars is space fantasy. GL is space fantasy. There's very little difference between the two.

Dude almost everything I said in my previous post is based on a special called the science behind star wars where actual scientist speculated how the technology behind star wars could be done. So please look it up but don't accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about.

 

[Raiden]

Coming back from TF3, I'm even more disappointed with GL.

Long story short, Bay just s--tted on everyone this summer. There is no chance in hell anyone is topping the massive spectacle and entertainment he just provided. That last hour is easily the single most greatest set of action sequences I've seen in a modern blockbuster.

"EPIC" is exactly what Bay achieved in that film. It's sad even its first hour already a larger scope than the entirety of GL. And guess what? It all took place on Earth.

Good riddance on this production. GL as a brand, and its fanbase deserved so much more.

I hope the Avengers will achieve the same kind of spectacle that TF3 offers. At least ILM will be doing the effects, and that's a great thing.

 

[JAK®]

I'm sure Avatar 2 will be edited like a film though. Is Transformers 3 still edited as if the editor guzzled down gallons of sugar?

Actually, no. Bay seems to understand that with 3D fast-paced editing simply doesn't work. There were a large number of long tracking shots during the action sequences.

It was nowhere near as stupid as the second. It isn't as emotionally engaging as the first. But as an action movie it is perfectly serviceable and the action scenes and 3D effects are a triumph.

 

[protocida]

I don't think The Avengers will top Transformers: Dark of the Moon in terms of spectacule, because massive action setpieces are Bay's specialty, and being the third movie of the trilogy allows for certains liberties that Marvel Studios can't take. But it'll be pretty big by its own merits.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Actually, no. Bay seems to understand that with 3D fast-paced editing simply doesn't work. There were a large number of long tracking shots during the action sequences.

It was nowhere near as stupid as the second. It isn't as emotionally engaging as the first. But as an action movie it is perfectly serviceable and the action scenes and 3D effects are a triumph.

Fast paced editing never worked. The so called "pulled into the chaos of the moment" intended effect is bulls***. I was "pulled into the chaos" more in Children of Men than I ever was with any rapidly cut action scene.