X-Men The Official MCU X-Men News and Discussion Thread

[psylockolussus]

I just want a decent movie with my favourite X-men characters, cool fight scenes and power displays, without political lecturing that is so on the nose they might as well have the characters break the fourth wall and say to the audience "Do you understand what we're telling you?"

Trying to make the FOH a swipe at MAGA is only going to date the movie to the "Trump era" and basically just immortalise him in cinematic history. The X-Men should be timeless.

I have faith it would be a decent movie!

 

[Hand Banana]

No. It would be the cowards way out. And no, the Civil Rights movement is not necessarily culturally relevant, given how many white people believe that was the full fight. See one John Roberts.

A reset isn’t cowardly, it’s just business. Thunderbolts got good reviews and word of mouth, but that wasn’t enough to save it from being a Box Office bomb and having low streaming views. The general audiences have clearly grown tired of the 616 MCU.

The Civil Right movement is 100% culturally relevant considering the Trump admin is trying to undo it.

I don’t mean to be rude but fantastic four had, like, an 80% drop after its opening weekend. Marvel aren’t going to try that again.

And as sithborg said, the xmen have never been more relevant or needed. It doesn’t need to be a period piece

Actually, it dropped 66% in its second weekend. Not bad considering the competition it had. It is reportedly getting a sequel too.

Box Office: ‘Fantastic Four’ Craters by 66% in Second Weekend, ‘Naked Gun’ Debuts to $17 Million

"The Fantastic Four: First Steps" is quickly losing steam at the box office in its second weekend.

variety.com

 

[BoredGuy]

I just want a decent movie with my favourite X-men characters, cool fight scenes and power displays, without political lecturing that is so on the nose they might as well have the characters break the fourth wall and say to the audience "Do you understand what we're telling you?"

Trying to make the FOH a swipe at MAGA is only going to date the movie to the "Trump era" and basically just immortalise him in cinematic history. The X-Men should be timeless.

Racism, homophobia, sexism, bigotry and fascism all existed before MAGA
and they'll sadly continue to exist after trump is in the ground

Now, I wouldn't want the FOH to wear Red Hats and shout "Let's go Javier" at Xavier or something, that's for sure... Don't want Senator Kelly to have a god awful combover and a cheap fake tan

but they can certainly make a movie that speaks to both the time we're in, and also remains timeless
Think Star Wars and the post Vietnam era, yet Andor is tragically the most culturally relevant thing that's come out in years...

 

[Still Wynning]

Now, I wouldn't want the FOH to wear Red Hats and shout "Let's go Javier" at Xavier or something, that's for sure... Don't want Senator Kelly to have a god awful combover and a cheap fake tan

but they can certainly make a movie that speaks to both the time we're in, and also remains timeless
Think Star Wars and the post Vietnam era, yet Andor is tragically the most culturally relevant thing that's come out in years...

Yeah, I definitely would want certain things to evoke things that happened or were said in real life without being a direct nod or one-to-one.

Andor worked because Gilroy and crew were pulling from previous history and current events across the world of political and social injustices committed and the pushback and resistance they were met with. It just happened to line up with reality, sadly, due to history repeating itself because humanity is mostly made up of a bunch of morons who don’t learn from our mistakes.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

A reset isn’t cowardly, it’s just business. Thunderbolts got good reviews and word of mouth, but that wasn’t enough to save it from being a Box Office bomb and having low streaming views. The general audiences have clearly grown tired of the 616 MCU.

The Civil Right movement is 100% culturally relevant considering the Trump admin is trying to undo it.

Actually, it dropped 66% in its second weekend. Not bad considering the competition it had. It is reportedly getting a sequel too.

Box Office: ‘Fantastic Four’ Craters by 66% in Second Weekend, ‘Naked Gun’ Debuts to $17 Million

"The Fantastic Four: First Steps" is quickly losing steam at the box office in its second weekend.

variety.com

I get where you're coming from, but at the same time, placing it during the 60s doesn't really make sense when we're facing the same issues on an even grander scale now.

I loved what they did with Earth 828 in The Fantastic Four, but it's apples and oranges with the X-Men. You make a film now in the present day in the Sacred Timeline and hit all the metaphors you can because it applies.

Racism, homophobia, sexism, bigotry and fascism all existed before MAGA
and they'll sadly continue to exist after trump is in the ground

Now, I wouldn't want the FOH to wear Red Hats and shout "Let's go Javier" at Xavier or something, that's for sure... Don't want Senator Kelly to have a god awful combover and a cheap fake tan

but they can certainly make a movie that speaks to both the time we're in, and also remains timeless
Think Star Wars and the post Vietnam era, yet Andor is tragically the most culturally relevant thing that's come out in years...

I respectfully disagree a bit bro. If you're going to make a statement, make the full damn statement and go there to let it resonate.

That's the problem we're facing in art today, nobody wants to take the risks or push the envelope when certain stories desperately need to.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

The 60s setting in First Steps was pointless window dressing anyway. They didn't really delve into the time period or address the issues of the time, and they didn't go full on Stan Lee/Jack Kirby with it either. Like a lot things about the movie, it was mid at everything it tried to do.

They could've set the movie in modern day and it wouldn't be much different, because the 60s setting wasn't really used.

 

[Hand Banana]

I get where you're coming from, but at the same time, placing it during the 60s doesn't really make sense when we're facing the same issues on an even grander scale now.

I loved what they did with Earth 828 in The Fantastic Four, but it's apples and oranges with the X-Men. You make a film now in the present day in the Sacred Timeline and hit all the metaphors you can because it applies.

I’m not sure if it is on a grander scale because the Civil Rights act is still in effect.

And you can’t really have a metaphor of today’s issues in present day 616 MCU because it doesn’t have the set-up for it at all. I mean, mutants are barely even mentioned in the 616 MCU. You can’t tell a story about the government trying to undo a “mutants rights act” or whatever when the public doesn’t know about mutants.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I’m not sure if it is on a grander scale because the Civil Rights act is still in effect.

And you can’t really have a metaphor of today’s issues in present day 616 MCU because it doesn’t have the set-up for it at all. I mean, mutants are barely even mentioned in the 616 MCU. You can’t tell a story about the government trying to undo a “mutants rights act” or whatever when the public doesn’t know about mutants.

We still have people being discriminated against and hated for because of the color of their skin, we still have people banning together in groups to wreak havoc and violence against marginalized groups, and we have the leader of the free world enacting his Fascist agenda.

It's super bad out here and there is more than enough ground for the X-Men to cover in the Sacred Timeline.

If they do this reset which Feige hinted at after Secret Wars, then it could set the stage.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Sentinels = ICE

 

[Sithborg]

I’m not sure if it is on a grander scale because the Civil Rights act is still in effect.

And you can’t really have a metaphor of today’s issues in present day 616 MCU because it doesn’t have the set-up for it at all. I mean, mutants are barely even mentioned in the 616 MCU. You can’t tell a story about the government trying to undo a “mutants rights act” or whatever when the public doesn’t know about mutants.

Technically, it is. But, John Roberts is about to kill the key law that went with it. And lets not forget the twisted version they are enforcing to bring back segregation.

And again, the important thing to remember is that to white people, how they view the civil rights movement of the 60s is not the reality.