X-Men The Official MCU X-Men News and Discussion Thread

[SumT]

I'll never understand fans preffering not to have huge/exciting X-Men news, after 5 years with zero movement since Disney bought Fox.
To each its own, I guess.

 

[Bayne]

I mean, I kind of have to agree that unveiling a logo that probably won't even turn out to be final would hardly qualify as huge or exciting news to me.

Even a director announcement - while interesting - wouldn't be that amazing unless it actually was someone hugely popular like Peele, Coogler, etc. Which it probably isn't.

 

[SumT]

I mean... Marvel movies use to be announced at fans events around 3-4 years before its premiere, its a part of their brand/strategy, their way to connect with the fanbase and build the hype online.

so when do you guys exactly expect Feige to announce the X-Men movie? just 1 year before its premiere or something?

If they already have the release year in mind, and a writer signed.... this is just the right time. No need to wait to 2025 if they already greenlighted the movie. We deserve that cool Comic Con or D23 moment, with all the outlets and movie sites posting the news, the logo and all the fans around the world finally excited.
If a few fans dont want to get excited, its cool, they have their right, but the rest of the world and huge x-men fanbase deserve this moment after sooooo many years of wait.
Its about celebration and having fun together as a community, if some of you dont want to have fun or that special day/feeling, cool, but let us have a celebration after so many dissapointments and frustrations over the years at Fox.
Thank you.

 

[JP]

They're moving relatively quickly on X-Men if they are already meeting with directors. Production Weekly reported that its filming in 2025. That means a 2026 release is likely.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'll never understand fans preffering not to have huge/exciting X-Men news, after 5 years with zero movement since Disney bought Fox.
To each its own, I guess.

There were X-Men news this year.

They don't just need to present something in Hall H when the film is literally years away...

And isn't like Marvel Studios don't have a couple of movies that they need to release first before X-Men.

 

[psylockolussus]

I mean... Marvel movies use to be announced at fans events around 3-4 years before its premiere, its a part of their brand/strategy, their way to connect with the fanbase and build the hype online.

so when do you guys exactly expect Feige to announce the X-Men movie? just 1 year before its premiere or something?

If they already have the release year in mind, and a writer signed.... this is just the right time. No need to wait to 2025 if they already greenlighted the movie. We deserve that cool Comic Con or D23 moment, with all the outlets and movie sites posting the news, the logo and all the fans around the world finally excited.
If a few fans dont want to get excited, its cool, they have their right, but the rest of the world and huge x-men fanbase deserve this moment after sooooo many years of wait.
Its about celebration and having fun together as a community, if some of you dont want to have fun or that special day/feeling, cool, but let us have a celebration after so many dissapointments and frustrations over the years at Fox.
Thank you.

Did you forget that they presented the entire phase 4and 5 line up in 2022,and some of phase 6 projects and look at how those projects turned out. Plenty of those projects moved, changed titles/logos and some still don't have a director/full cast, etc.

Also them announcing things way ahead of time, won't solve their other problems. The Marvels still flopped, the quality of shows are all over the place. Announcing projects 5 years in advance to the public, won't guarantee success.

I'd rather see them showcase their three 2025 movies this July, instead of overwhelm people by announcing 20 projects in 1 sitting, that would be just delayed eventually.

But good luck getting that X-Men logo next month, that might not even be the final logo anyway.

 

[psylockolussus]

They're moving relatively quickly on X-Men if they are already meeting with directors. Production Weekly reported that its filming in 2025. That means a 2026 release is likely.

And how many times Fantastic 4 and Blade got a director and reports that they were gonna film soon and yet, both have yet to film anything by June 2024?

These things aren't finalized yet, with Avengers slated for 2026, what are the odds that the X-Men reboot would come out in the same year as Avengers 5? Its just not realistic.

And maybe they could release it in 2026... there would still be a San Diego comic con next year anyway.

 

[psylockolussus]

But good luck getting that X-Men logo next month, that might not even be the final logo anyway.

I can't wait for the new logo for Avengers 5 and 6.

 

[JP]

Just for giggles, here's a timeline of all the X-Men-related news we've gotten from Marvel Studios.

2017 - Disney acquires Fox
2019 - Kevin Feige ends the SDCC panel by listing future projects: Black Panther 2, Guardians 3, Fantastic Four, and "mutants."
2021 - Marvel Studios announces X-Men '97
2022 - Professor Charles Xavier makes his first MCU appearance in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
2022 - Ryan Reynolds Announces Hugh Jackman will return as Wolverine in Deadpool 3
2022 - Kamala Kahn is revealed to be a mutant in Ms Marvel
2023 - Monica Rambeau wakes up in an alternate universe where the X-Men exist. Beast makes his MCU debut.
2023 - Deadline reports that Marvel is taking pitch meetings for X-Men
2024 - X-Men '97 debuts on Disney+
2024 - Michael Lesslie is hired as writer for Marvel Studios X-Men
2024 - Marvel Studios Deadpool & Wolverine arrives in theaters

 

[SumT]

There were X-Men news this year.

They don't just need to present something in Hall H when the film is literally years away...

And isn't like Marvel Studios don't have a couple of movies that they need to release first before X-Men.

Seems like you dont really know how Marvel Studios work, then.

 

[JP]

 

[SumT]

dont remember reading that rumor, and I use to be updated almost on a daily basis.....
I think they are making it up, but we'll see

 

[Sithborg]

Lets be honest here, Feige is desperate. He desperately needs the hype that will come with an X-men announcement.

 

[SumT]

more than Feige, the actual Disney CEOs. They said they want to focus now on the biggest IPs, so thats why F4 and X-Men will be the new priorities.
Common sense too.

 

[psylockolussus]

Seems like you dont really know how Marvel Studios work, then.

How do they work then?

You want them to rush by announcing Marvel Studios' X-Men when there's a big possibility of it being delayed, and not making it to the release date that they will give?

I've followed them pretty closely and as you can see I saved the logos when they announced projects in SDCC. They delay their films all the time more so, in the past few years.

The fact they announced Blade in 2019 and still no film in sight is pretty embarrassing.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Lets be honest here, Feige is desperate. He desperately needs the hype that will come with an X-men announcement.

Sith, humor me for 2 minutes.

If you were given full creative control of MCU X-Men, who would you select for the roster?

 

[psylockolussus]

more than Feige, the actual Disney CEOs. They said they want to focus now on the biggest IPs, so thats why F4 and X-Men will be the new priorities.
Common sense too.

F4 as one of the biggest ips... if this is a Marvel fan talking, okay. I will agree that Fantastic 4 is one of the more important ips in the Marvel Universe. But one of the biggest... Fantastic 4 isn't in the same level as Spider-Man, X-Men, Batman, Superman and Avengers yet. Lets be real. None of the Fantastic 4 are as popular as Spider-Man, Hulk, the Wolverine, Iron Man and Captain America.

Also Marvel Studios made a film for Shang-Chi, Eternals, Sam Wilson and Thunderbolts, before the Fantastic 4 first? At one point, the Fantastic 4 reboot was supposed to come out before Thunderbolts/Brave New World/Deadpool&Wolverine since it was announced first before those three? But that isn't the case anymore which imo is a sign, that Disney might not be treating it as one of their biggest.

I would like to be as optimistic as you when it comes to the F4 but we haven't any seen anything that Disney is really treating F4 like some big IP. We need to see the finished product imo or at least a trailer. The Fantastic 4 would also have be great to really make an impression at the box office.

As for the X-Men, who knows what took them so long to finally focus on a X-Men movie. Marvel Studios is in a crucial state right now, and "desperately" using the X-Men to turn the tide might not exactly help the X-Men reboot. Either they could be rushing it, or its going to take a long time to finally get the cameras rolling like what is happening with Blade/Fantastic 4. Its why i am opposed to announcing it this year. Avengers 5 and 6 will also need a lot of attention and I don't think developing those movies alongside the X-Men and releasing them so closely would be wise.

Also how are they going to do a X-Men reboot when the Fox cast just came back? And will probably appear in Secret Wars? So are we going to have two actors again playing the Professor, Storm, Jean, Cyclops?

 

[Sithborg]

F4 is not one of their biggest IPs. And to be frank, neither is the X-men. Avengers is their money IP.

 

[SumT]

I wasnt meaning biggest movie IPs, but characters in general (Marvel history wise).

X-Men, Fantastic 4, Avengers and now Guardians are Marvel most known teams.
And in terms of solo heroes: Ironman, Spiderman, Thor, Captain America, Wolverine and Deadpool.
So thats what Bob Iger likely meant. To focus on the most important characters overall moving forward.
And there is when X-Men and F4 enter: they will be key players of Marvel Studios future and they know it.

 

[psylockolussus]

The more I think about Avengers 5 and 6... I really doubt Marvel is really going to fast track a X-Men movie for 2026. Those Avengers movies need to come out first and those Avengers movies are potential billion dollar grossing films - which unfortunately we can't say for sure for the X-Men, as of the moment, as we don't know yet what the reboot is going to look like.

And the box office performance of Brave New World, Thunderbolts and Fantastic 4 next year would be crucial to the future of these films. One or two more flops would really cause a reaction to Disney.

 

[Venom 1988]

Also Marvel Studios made a film for Shang-Chi, Eternals, Sam Wilson and Thunderbolts, before the Fantastic 4 first? At one point, the Fantastic 4 reboot was supposed to come out before Thunderbolts/Brave New World/Deadpool&Wolverine since it was announced first before those three? But that isn't the case anymore which imo is a sign, that Disney might not be treating it as one of their biggest.

This is incorrect. Just because it was announced first, doesn't mean it was supposed to come out first. From all reports Chapek made Feige announce a bunch of projects way sooner than the originally intended, which is why they announced Fantastic Four when they did. They knew talking about Fantastic Four, even if briefly, was gonna play well for their invenstor day.

You're not taking into account that those projects were in development long before they were ever officially announced announced. The earliest reports of a Thunderbolts movie being in production was 2018. They didn't officially announced it until 4 years later at SDCC 2022 for a 2024 release date. Even with it getting delayed a year, a 3 year turn around from announcement to release is normal (the same for most phase 2/3 movies)

Heck even logo changes were a thing back then lol. Go back to SDCC 2012 and look at the phase 2 slate. Half of those movies had logo changes. The reason why you didn't complain about that stuff back then was because Marvel was on top of it (for the most part anyway). Phase 1-3 Marvel didn't have to deal with Iger and Chapek telling them to increase output, COVID (both the effects on production as well as audience theater trends), or 6 months of strikes.

Now obviously they are trying to turn things around now and doing some rejiggering. Will it work? Maybe, they got a lot working agaist them but we'll see. But trying to get an X-Men movie out in 2026 isn't that unrealistic. Spider-Man Homecoming started development 2 1/2 years before it released.

 

[psylockolussus]

Just for giggles, here's a timeline of all the X-Men-related news we've gotten from Marvel Studios.

2017 - Disney acquires Fox
2019 - Kevin Feige ends the SDCC panel by listing future projects: Black Panther 2, Guardians 3, Fantastic Four, and "mutants."
2021 - Marvel Studios announces X-Men '97
2022 - Professor Charles Xavier makes his first MCU appearance in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
2022 - Ryan Reynolds Announces Hugh Jackman will return as Wolverine in Deadpool 3
2022 - Kamala Kahn is revealed to be a mutant in Ms Marvel
2023 - Monica Rambeau wakes up in an alternate universe where the X-Men exist. Beast makes his MCU debut.
2023 - Deadline reports that Marvel is taking pitch meetings for X-Men
2024 - X-Men '97 debuts on Disney+
2024 - Michael Lesslie is hired as writer for Marvel Studios X-Men
2024 - Marvel Studios Deadpool & Wolverine arrives in theaters

With that timeline, I really don't see Marvel Studios' X-Men being released in 2026. While 2027 sounds a bit too optimistic for me as well.

In hindsight, they really should have ditched Thunderbolts*, Eternals and this upcoming Captain America movie without Steve Rogers. Instead started developing X-Men and the Fantastic 4 and other films like Captain Marvel 2 much earlier.

I really hope they learned something from the last four years and their missteps won't continue on Fantastic 4/X-Men. Its weird how those two are being discussed as "big ips" in this thread, when the last film for those two ips, completely flopped at the box office. The success of those reboots would be achievable if they get everything right which I'm doubtful with Marvel's current workload...

 

[Iceman]

I really hope they learned something from the last four years and their missteps won't continue on Fantastic 4/X-Men. Its weird how those two are being discussed as "big ips" in this thread, when the last film for those two ips, completely flopped at the box office. The success of those reboots would be achievable if they get everything right which I'm doubtful with Marvel's current workload...

They're big comic IPs, not yet fully proven on film.

 

[Venom 1988]

2017 - Disney acquires Fox

Small correction, they started the process to aquire Fox in 2017. The deal wasn't finalized and completed until March 2019. Prior to that, they wouldn't have been able to do anything with them.

In hindsight, they really should have ditched Thunderbolts*, Eternals and this upcoming Captain America movie without Steve Rogers. Instead started developing X-Men and the Fantastic 4 and other films like Captain Marvel 2 much earlier.

So they should have cancelled movies that were already in development or pre-production? By the time they could officially use the FF, Eternals was 3 months away from filming. I do think yea they probably should have priortized them more but I wouldn't have done it at the expense of other things getting cancelled. Though I do think there's some truth about the contract rumors with 20 century fox and the X-men (less so on actors, more on the producers side).
As far as Captain Marvel is concerned, The Marvels started development not long after the first and was originally set for 2022. Covid delayed that. So not sure how much faster they could have started developing that one.

Now yeah, with hindsight being 20/20, obviously they would have done a lot of things differently and maybe would have fastracked FF and X-Men to release sooner. But it also makes sense they wanted intially give space between the Fox versions and their own. Part of the problem was in their effort to ramp up content, they still decided to leave FF and X-Men off the table. Though I guess in retrospect maybe that was also a blessing in disguise. Had they chucked out a half-hearted version of FF or X-Men, along with everything else, it would have probably been worse.

 

[JP]

You are correct! My mistake.