Playstation The Official Playstation 5 Thread

[Mjolnir Reborn]

I preordered my Playstation 5 in early October, and the retailer still can't even comment on when they're getting more of the product. Surely someone knows something? I know there are more pressing matters in life, but I already invested over 500 euros in this. I think I and other people deserve more info than this

Many stores seem to get very scarce information from Sony about deliveries unfortunately, so that part doesn't seem to be handled very well. Pretty bad by the retailer to require you to pay upfront on a preorder though, especially an uncertain one like the PS5.

 

[psylockolussus]

My retail store is also requiring full down payment for the ps5 and thats if i am successful pre ordering it. But of course I'm not going to pay the entire 560 unless I see the thing in person. And there's stillno word about the second wave of pre orders. Getting this console is a nightmare. People have asked me if when will I buy the ps5, and I'm always like idk.

 

[psylockolussus]

Ghostwire Tokyo Release Set for October 2021, Project Athia for 2022

Ghostwire - Oct 2021
Athia - Jan 2022
Pragmata - 2023

 

[Teelie]

Many stores seem to get very scarce information from Sony about deliveries unfortunately, so that part doesn't seem to be handled very well. Pretty bad by the retailer to require you to pay upfront on a preorder though, especially an uncertain one like the PS5.

I imagine Sony has little information on itself right now. They knew this was going to be a big deal, they thought they were prepared but they weren't. And the pandemic keeping people in their homes only drove up the demand for more entertainment. Couple that with their manufacturing issues and it's a guess when they will be able to ramp up production enough to satisfy everyone.

Probably by the end of this year but not definitely. Sony is claiming to have a lot more already in production to meet demand this spring but I doubt it.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

My view on it could just be due to where I live but here in Sweden we generally don't have to pay for anything until we get it. There's a bank (or well, there are a few but one is pretty dominant) here that mainly focuses on handling payments for retailers and always offer 14 day invoices to the customers, free of charge, and the invoices can't be sent out until after the items are shipped. It works like that regardless whether you're ordering something in stock or pre-ordering something.

I imagine Sony has little information on itself right now. They knew this was going to be a big deal, they thought they were prepared but they weren't. And the pandemic keeping people in their homes only drove up the demand for more entertainment. Couple that with their manufacturing issues and it's a guess when they will be able to ramp up production enough to satisfy everyone.

Probably by the end of this year but not definitely. Sony is claiming to have a lot more already in production to meet demand this spring but I doubt it.

Sony would have known how many they would ship for release day but lots of retailers still didn't know how many they would get until they were shipped out or even until they received them, while some others got earlier information, so I don't think it's just that Sony doesn't know, even though it's of course true that they won't have a complete grasp of the future manufacturing process.

 

[psylockolussus]

Sony Reveals 2020's PS Store Charts for PS4 and PS5

I hope this encourages Ubisoft to make Watch Dogs 4.

 

[Silvermoth]

Ghostwire Tokyo Release Set for October 2021, Project Athia for 2022

Ghostwire - Oct 2021
Athia - Jan 2022
Pragmata - 2023

I am wondering, do you think ghostwire will be the last Bethesda game on the PlayStation? Or will they continue on as normal, but just keep new games and maybe a few exclusives for Xbox going forward?

 

[psylockolussus]

I am wondering, do you think ghostwire will be the last Bethesda game on the PlayStation? Or will they continue on as normal, but just keep new games and maybe a few exclusives for Xbox going forward?

If I were Microsoft, I wouldn't spend all that money buying Bethesda and let Bethesda make games for the competition of my console.

Microsoft doesn't make games like Halo, Forza and Doom accessible to Playstation consoles, especially with Playstation being known for their great catalogue of eXclusives (Miles, Ghost and Last of Us just made it to the list of best selling games of 2020). I don't see why Microsoft suddenly would act different with Bethesda's upcoming games (that have no deal with Playstation yet).

Though I hope they make an eXception with the upcoming Indiana Jones game. That's something I would play.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

I don't think exclusives for Xbox will exist anymore, they will just lock games out from Playstation and Nintendo's consoles but keep putting them on PC as well. That's been one of the reasons an Xbox has never been interesting to me since I'll always have a PC capable of gaming.

With Bethesda in particular I'd prefer to play their games on PC since they pretty much need mods, especially these days when games like Witcher 3 and RDR2 set a new standard for how good open worlds can be. I hope both Bethesda and BioWare can pick themselves up and create some great games though.

 

[Silvermoth]

If I were Microsoft, I wouldn't spend all that money buying Bethesda and let Bethesda make games for the competition of my console.

Microsoft doesn't make games like Halo, Forza and Doom accessible to Playstation consoles, especially with Playstation being known for their great catalogue of eXclusives (Miles, Ghost and Last of Us just made it to the list of best selling games of 2020). I don't see why Microsoft suddenly would act different with Bethesda's upcoming games (that have no deal with Playstation yet).

Though I hope they make an eXception with the upcoming Indiana Jones game. That's something I would play.

yeah I agree, billions is too much just to watch them make games for their competitor. Still, what a shame. Loosing doom and wolfenstein is a big loss but at least PlayStation still has games like ghost as well as relations with 3D realms for games like ion fury. Hopefully they invest in a few new shooters too to compensate

 

[psylockolussus]

yeah I agree, billions is too much just to watch them make games for their competitor. Still, what a shame. Loosing doom and wolfenstein is a big loss but at least PlayStation still has games like ghost as well as relations with 3D realms for games like ion fury. Hopefully they invest in a few new shooters too to compensate

Personally this isn't affecting me. I haven't played any games from Bethesda and I don't really play first person games with the eXception of Resident Evil.

Though I would like to see Sony acquire more studios as well to counteract Xbox's biggest eXclusives games in the future and get more of the market share. I know people would be against this. But I remember I read an article, that Elder Scrolls being a console X-BoXclusive, there's a possibility that 1 out of 3 people that would buy the game would be getting a Series X|S just to play the game. And with Sony's gaming studios, there's only a handful of games that they could work at the same time. Studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Media Molecule, Sucker Punch, Bend, Santa Monica don't pump out games every year.

I really like A Plague Tale Innocence and if someone told me it was a Sony eXclusive I would have believed them. So I would to see Sony acquire the studio behind that game.

 

[psylockolussus]

Lack of PS5 Supply in Japan Results in Retailers Using Lottery System

 

[psylockolussus]

Scalper Group Says it Secured Another 2000 PS5s, 'Keeps Getting Easier'

 

[Teelie]

Why am I not surprised the retailers keep failing and scalpers keep winning, and bragging?

 

[psylockolussus]

The only solution to this is when Sony catches up to the demand and the console aren't sold out in a hot minute and it is stocked pretty well whether you buy it online or just by walking in a physical store without a pre order.

But its been two months since the launch week, and its not getting better. Maybe in 2025, Sony would probably proudly say they have already fiXed this issue.

 

[Silvermoth]

Geez if they keep this up I might be forced just to jump over to Xbox for a generation

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

Unfortunately it seems like production issues are spreading. Several big car manufacturers are now slowing down production due to poor chip availability so it's even hitting markets that we generally don't have to consider when we look at issues with semiconductor manufacturing.

 

[terry78]

anybody trying to get that PS5 at some point today?

 

[Silvermoth]

Constantly but I simply haven’t even seen even an option to preorder. Very sad

 

[psylockolussus]

Geez if they keep this up I might be forced just to jump over to Xbox for a generation

It is quite annoying. I literally gave up trying to look for this unless its suddenly infront of me in the mall. Like I'd still read articles and news about the ps5 but I'm not even going to try to get this when Sony IMO is not making an eXtra effort to make this so accessible for everyone. Buying an entertainment hardware shouldn't be such a hassle and a race especially this thing has been out in the market for two months. And nothing has changed. It is still pre order only and eXtremely limited.

Like plenty of stores here just opened a 2nd wave of pre orders today and based from what I read, it was over in a minute.i would have been more pissed if I joined that mess (refreshing the site, filling up the form only to get nothing because it was only up for aminute). And they said, Sony ordered them to do the pre ordering online only which is prone to bots. Really, they are killing my patience and enthusiasm here.

This whole thing is nightmare. Plus you have to pay the whole thing right away and I don't even buy things online.

 

[psylockolussus]

Unfortunately it seems like production issues are spreading. Several big car manufacturers are now slowing down production due to poor chip availability so it's even hitting markets that we generally don't have to consider when we look at issues with semiconductor manufacturing.

And this goes back to our discussion why launching this console in this time was such a good idea. Surely they could have foreseen that there's a shortage for the chips but still went ahead with their launch date.

So whats going to happen now, an entire year of limited ps5 stock? how is this good or bad for the PlayStation brand? And what about the upcoming games eXclusive for the ps5? Are they going to have limited players as well because ps5 is so hard to get. No wonder Capcom just announced Resident Evil Village is now coming out in the ps4.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

And this goes back to our discussion why launching this console in this time was such a good idea. Surely they could have foreseen that there's a shortage for the chips but still went ahead with their launch date.

So whats going to happen now, an entire year of limited ps5 stock? how is this good or bad for the PlayStation brand? And what about the upcoming games eXclusive for the ps5? Are they going to have limited players as well because ps5 is so hard to get. No wonder Capcom just announced Resident Evil Village is now coming out in the ps4.

They wouldn't have foreseen that when the plans were made since no company worth its salt makes release plans anywhere close to the actual release. It does nothing to the brand since the competition is in the same situation. Looking at other markets the car manufacturers have of course not delayed any models, they just manufacture what they can. And again, the PS5 had record sized launches in key markets and a wider launch globally than ever before. You can't just ignore context.

There are no signs that there has been less demand for the PS5 or the XSX because of the low availability. That Nintendo sells well I'd nothing new and they have a cheap console because they aim to be a complement to the more expensive ones rather than a direct competitor. The lacking production just limits how much they can earn but having delayed the launch would have put those earnings to zero and instead just increased the costs.

The idea of them delaying the launch is even worse when looking at the fact that we don't know when things will get better. Removing all profits and instead increasing costs indefinitely is an extremely bad business proposition.

I fully get the frustration of not being able to buy one but that doesn't mean that the way economics works changes.

 

[psylockolussus]

Cars are different from consoles especially cars cost like thousands of dollars.

If they had a problem stocking this (plus the overhelming amount of pre orders that crashed pre order sites), they could have foreseen this. Sony isn't a new company, surely they have people analyzing what might happen in the neXt several years. Manufacturing products are scheduled way ahead of time in order to keep up withdemand unless they were slacking and only started mass producing ps5 weeks before the launch. Also In a Covid pandemic World, everything gets delayed for various reasons.

And I didn't say anything about "less demand" or else it would have been easier to just scoop a copy or two if the demand is lesser.

Also like I said games are more in demand these days, people are still buying the ps4 console. They aren't going to lose profit by delaying their shiny new console. And not delaying ps5 only led to problems. So how was that really beneficial to them?

I am asking, how is good or bad is this limited supply doing for the Playstation brand short term/long term because I'm sure I'm not the only person frustrated with this. Do you think Sony will come out unscathed with scalper/limited supply mess of a launch? You have 1 person here literally saying they would jump ship to Xbox. And I know Xbox has "limited supplies" (maybe in America) but I don't think its bad as this. I see fewer articles about Microsoft not keeping up with the demand. In Japan for eXample, that thing is easy to buy.

 

[psylockolussus]

There Has To Be A Better Way To Buy A PS5 Or Xbox Series X

From Forbes.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

Cars are different from consoles especially cars cost like thousands of dollars.

If they had a problem stocking this (plus the overhelming amount of pre orders that crashed pre order sites), they could have foreseen this. Sony isn't a new company, surely they have people analyzing what might happen in the neXt several years. Manufacturing products are scheduled way ahead of time in order to keep up withdemand unless they were slacking and only started mass producing ps5 weeks before the launch. Also In a Covid pandemic World, everything gets delayed for various reasons.

And I didn't say anything about "less demand" or else it would have been easier to just scoop a copy or two if the demand is lesser.

Also like I said games are more in demand these days, people are still buying the ps4 console. They aren't going to lose profit by delaying their shiny new console. And not delaying ps5 only led to problems. So how was that really beneficial to them?

I am asking, how is good or bad is this limited supply doing for the Playstation brand short term/long term because I'm sure I'm not the only person frustrated with this. Do you think Sony will come out unscathed with scalper/limited supply mess of a launch? You have 1 person here literally saying they would jump ship to Xbox. And I know Xbox has "limited supplies" (maybe in America) but I don't think its bad as this. I see fewer articles about Microsoft not keeping up with the demand. In Japan for eXample, that thing is easy to buy.

I just gave you an example of a different market as a side point to mentioning that the direct competitor to PS is in the exact same situation.

They didn't have problems stocking the PS5 compared to any previous console launches. It's rather the contrary as they just had the biggest console launch ever, but you're saying that it's not enough. That's an absurdly high bar you're setting. That you aren't holding other companies to that bar indicates that you are arguing based in your own emotions rather than based on sound economics.

You asked what this situation would do to the PS brand and if it isn't lowering demand then the answer to the question is "nothing". That's why I mentioned that.

Of course they lose profit by delaying the console. Just because they have other revenue coming in doesn't mean that eliminating all PS5 revenue and increasing costs (and giving the competition a head start) isn't losing profit. I'm sorry but that statement just didn't make any sense.

As said this won't hurt Sony in any relevant way because if people were willing to just get something else instead they wouldn't have to be very frustrated to begin with. Using anecdotal evidence isn't worth much in discussion about large scale. The XSX is sold out in its big markets and keeps selling out on restocks, and if it's easy to get somewhere it's only because there isn't any local demand for it since it hasn't had as big of a launch as the PS5. It would just point to a less than optimal distribution of the consoles across the markets.