Playstation The Official Playstation 5 Thread

[spiderman2]

Current games

The pathless-I am getting towards the end about to fight second to last boss.

Immortals Fyenx rising- Still pretty early in the game think I have gotten to the
3rd of like the 7 different areas and there is still dlc to come out later.

Later this year

Ratchet and clank rift apart-?
oddworld soulstorm- Spring I never played a oddworld game but I love platforms and from has been shown this looks great.
kena bridge of spirits-?
scarlet nexus- Summer
Horizon Forbidden west-?

Might get

batman gotham knights- I am not sure what to think of this the fact it looks like the got rid of the batman Arkham style combat sucks has that is a big reason those games where so good.

That is what my 2021 is looking like right now for Sony could change of course depending on what might be shown that we dont know about yet.

 

[psylockolussus]

My waitlist for 2021 games
Hitman 3
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Resident Evillage
Horizon Forbidden West
Gotham Knights
Hogwartz Legacy

I'm pretty sure some of those would be delayed for 2022 (just like Ragnarök is Coming).

 

[emc5466]

I haven’t been able to find a god damn console!

 

[Mani-Man]

I haven’t been able to find a god damn console!

Same.
Rumor has it that at least here in Germany a new wave could come this week, but still doesnt guarantee that i will get one.

Sony really needs to step up their game.

 

[psylockolussus]

I haven’t been able to find a god damn console!

There's a shortage of Ps5s worldwide and everything is outsold.

Sony's inability to keep up with the demand is really annoying. They were stubborn to stick with their planned 2020 launch date knowing there's an ongoing pandemic that probably slowed down the manufacturing/shipping of these eXpensive consoles. Not minding that there are possibility that their most of their loyal fanbase would be missing out. I never bought any console in the past but playstations, thats how loyal I am to the Playstation brand.

So now, those of us who aren't fast enough to pre order/not super tech savy are missing out. And we just have to "wait" as if thats so easy knowing there are people out there enjoying ps4/ps5 games using the new console. If I was a huge Demons soul/Astro fan, I would have already missed out their with new games for almost 2 months now. Assassin's Creed Valhalla's loading time is quite long and as a ps5 would have helped shorten that loading. Like I was anticipating for the ps5 late 2019 to late 2020, but of course thats one more thing that this freaking pandemic has taken away and its really frustrating. And Sony hasn't really done (as far I know from where I live) to keep up with the demand.

This really killed my eXcitement for getting a new console. And I'm not even sure I would even bother getting ps6 at launch when it is about to released 7 years from now.

 

[Dave McFly]

dumb question time if somebody is playing a PS4 title on a PS5 can that person play against another player online if they are playing the same game on a PS4?

 

[KillerMcQueen]

dumb question time if somebody is playing a PS4 title on a PS5 can that person play against another player online if they are playing the same game on a PS4?

Yes.

 

[Dave McFly]

I thought so I just wanted to make sure I wonder if the same applies to One games on a Series s/x?

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

I thought so I just wanted to make sure I wonder if the same applies to One games on a Series s/x?

It works for Xbox as well. Cross generation play should also be common when there's a real PS5/XSX version and a PS4/One version of the same game.

 

[psylockolussus]

Report: PlayStation Brand 'In Decisive Decline in Japan,' Research Firm 'Deeply Concerned'

The Playstation is declining in Japan.

Also, in Japan, the only ps4 version they are now manufacturing is the ps4 jet black slim, the one that I have. So hopefully this should solve the ps5 shortage problem at least in Asia.

Nintendo Switch Expected to Outsell PS5, Xbox Series X in 2021

I am eXpecting this. Like I said before the consoles came out, the disc version is $500 (560 in my country). One of the reasons why ps4 is so successful is its much cheaper than ps3 despite not offering backwards compatibility. For the non gamers out there 500 is way eXpensive. While Digital only, that would only attract a fraction of Sony's potential customers especially in 3rd world countries. Like 20% tops.

Switch is way cheaper and will indeed outsell Ps5 if Sony continues this "its outsold everywhere" chapter. Yeah so A. Its more eXpensive than ps4 and switch and B. You can't find it in a retail store. So most likely the ones who don't own a current gen console would buy a switch. Like Sony, wake up!

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah I’m not sure if people in Asia like a console that’s so chonky. So what’s replacing it? The switch or the pc?

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

Report: PlayStation Brand 'In Decisive Decline in Japan,' Research Firm 'Deeply Concerned'

The Playstation is declining in Japan.

Also, in Japan, the only ps4 version they are now manufacturing is the ps4 jet black slim, the one that I have. So hopefully this should solve the ps5 shortage problem at least in Asia.

Nintendo Switch Expected to Outsell PS5, Xbox Series X in 2021

I am eXpecting this. Like I said before the consoles came out, the disc version is $500 (560 in my country). One of the reasons why ps4 is so successful is its much cheaper than ps3 despite not offering backwards compatibility. For the non gamers out there 500 is way eXpensive. While Digital only, that would only attract a fraction of Sony's potential customers especially in 3rd world countries. Like 20% tops.

Switch is way cheaper and will indeed outsell Ps5 if Sony continues this "its outsold everywhere" chapter. Yeah so A. Its more eXpensive than ps4 and switch and B. You can't find it in a retail store. So most likely the ones who don't own a current gen console would buy a switch. Like Sony, wake up!

A low price will always help, but I'd definitely say that the PS5 is abetter deal than the PS4 was from a hardware perspective. The PS4 didn't feel as impressive as the PS3 did when they came out, but the PS5 does have some impressive performance. Not much to do about pricing either since from all I've seen Sony is taking a substantial loss on each console and that Sony expects that it could take 3 years to break even on the console.

The availability is of course an obvious issue, but new consoles always sell out and Sony did manage to have more consoles available at launch despite both the pandemic and that some manufacturers have had production issues. The issues hurt the PC graphics cards far worse. The biggest negative is that scalping seems to be increasing and it hurts both customers and Sony, so we need to get rid of them.

How things turn out in the long run remains to be seen.

 

[Iceman]

A low price will always help, but I'd definitely say that the PS5 is abetter deal than the PS4 was from a hardware perspective. The PS4 didn't feel as impressive as the PS3 did when they came out, but the PS5 does have some impressive performance. Not much to do about pricing either since from all I've seen Sony is taking a substantial loss on each console and that Sony expects that it could take 3 years to break even on the console.

The availability is of course an obvious issue, but new consoles always sell out and Sony did manage to have more consoles available at launch despite both the pandemic and that some manufacturers have had production issues. The issues hurt the PC graphics cards far worse. The biggest negative is that scalping seems to be increasing and it hurts both customers and Sony, so we need to get rid of them.

How things turn out in the long run remains to be seen.

They definitely need to do something about scalping. I don't think it's difficult either if they care enough.

 

[psylockolussus]

A low price will always help, but I'd definitely say that the PS5 is abetter deal than the PS4 was from a hardware perspective. The PS4 didn't feel as impressive as the PS3 did when they came out, but the PS5 does have some impressive performance. Not much to do about pricing either since from all I've seen Sony is taking a substantial loss on each console and that Sony expects that it could take 3 years to break even on the console.

The availability is of course an obvious issue, but new consoles always sell out and Sony did manage to have more consoles available at launch despite both the pandemic and that some manufacturers have had production issues. The issues hurt the PC graphics cards far worse. The biggest negative is that scalping seems to be increasing and it hurts both customers and Sony, so we need to get rid of them.

How things turn out in the long run remains to be seen.

From where i live, I asked if the Switch and ps4 were sold out when they were launched, and the person said no. I live in South East asia and even though PlayStation is the #1 console brand here, its not something that would be sold out right away especially in a middle of a pandemic. And the ps5 arrived here one month late so I thought maybe it wouldn't be sold out. I just think they stocked this pretty badly (all regions of the world) and it doesn't help that stocks are so limited, that its faster for scalpers/bots to order everything.

PS4 Outsells PS5 in Japan, Both Standard and Digital Combined

And that doesn't look good, Sony had the entire year to stock the ps5 yet instead, more ps4 was sold in a week, so I am assuming they manufactured more ps4s than ps5s in 2020.

 

[Silvermoth]

Oh well clearly the demand is still there but unfortunately as with everything Covid has disrupted things. Patience is a virtue

 

[psylockolussus]

I think its more on Sony's fault rather than the pandemic. Like they knew that pandemic was on going for most of 2020, yet they still pushed through their plans. With the strong sales of gaming due to lockdowns and stay @ home orders, and the hype for the ps5. They could have done more to keep up with the demand. And what have they done really to keep up with the demand? Stopping the manufacturing of the other ps4 is just eXpected when there is a new console/tech.

Their pre order only rule is a s*** show. I don't know how strict Japan was or Sony's western manufacturers but around May from where I live, people started to go back to their jobs and some restrictions were lifted to resume business (even though we eventually went back to stricter lockdown for a month). While I haven't seen a report that shipping these consoles as one of the factors for the shortage. When Japan out of all the places are having a shortage then thatsreally on Sony's inability to stock this. Thats mismanagement and incompetence imo especially they really ramped up marketing for this. For the last two months I keep seeing online ads for the ps5 yet you can't get the console anywhere. So they knew there's a shortage but they keep marketing something that is so inaccessible to buy at the moment? From where I live, there's still no pre order since it was sold outin November in like 2 minutes.

Yes people should be patient right now, I am now as I no longer feel the need to buy this now as the moment of being hyped has already passed due to the disappointment. But I'll never forget how disastrous the launch of this even when I finally get to enjoy playing with the ps5 and it doesn't erase the fact that people gotto buy this thing because they were scalping. Sony is also handing out these consoles for influencers for free, yet their customers that are eager to buy this thing still have to wait and be patient.

 

[psylockolussus]

. So they knew there's a shortage but they keep marketing something that is so inaccessible to buy at the moment? From where I live, there's still no pre order since it was sold outin November in like 2 minutes.

On a second thought, the ongoing marketing for the ps5 that cant be found anywhere is actually indirectly persuading customers to buy from scalpers. I just remember there's still plenty of ps5s on sale online. You just have to pay double or more.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

From where i live, I asked if the Switch and ps4 were sold out when they were launched, and the person said no. I live in South East asia and even though PlayStation is the #1 console brand here, its not something that would be sold out right away especially in a middle of a pandemic. And the ps5 arrived here one month late so I thought maybe it wouldn't be sold out. I just think they stocked this pretty badly (all regions of the world) and it doesn't help that stocks are so limited, that its faster for scalpers/bots to order everything.

PS4 Outsells PS5 in Japan, Both Standard and Digital Combined

And that doesn't look good, Sony had the entire year to stock the ps5 yet instead, more ps4 was sold in a week, so I am assuming they manufactured more ps4s than ps5s in 2020.

The PS4 sold out in all the places I had paid attention to, and I remember a friend that wanted a Switch got it some months after the initial launch. Going back I see lots of threads on the Internet about how they can't get a PS4 long after release while Xbox Ones are everywhere. I even saw someone saying that PS4 kept selling out where he lived in the states in 2015.

Also don't forget that Sony is managing to launch the PS5 in more territories at once compared to the PS4. Sony's home market Japan didn't even get the PS4 until more than three months after the US and Europe.

That the PS4 is selling better now only says to me that it's still surprisingly popular. You can't compare manufacturing and stock of something that's been done for years to developing something new that requires new manufacturing methods, especially when the manufacturers have yield issues and working in a pandemic.

A case in point is that the Xbox Series X is also sold out and in every single survey and activity analysis I've seen it's been absolutely dominated by the PS5 in terms of demand.

I'm not saying that it doesn't suck that people have to wait for uncertain restock dates to get one, it of course does. I'm just pointing out that unfortunately it wasn't really realistic to expect better, apart from maybe not having realized how bad scalping would be, which I didn't either.

I expect the same thing to happen with the launch of the next generation, unless they've actually solved cloud based gaming and changed the nature of what a console will be.

 

[psylockolussus]

The PS4 sold out in all the places I had paid attention to, and I remember a friend that wanted a Switch got it some months after the initial launch. Going back I see lots of threads on the Internet about how they can't get a PS4 long after release while Xbox Ones are everywhere. I even saw someone saying that PS4 kept selling out where he lived in the states in 2015.

Also don't forget that Sony is managing to launch the PS5 in more territories at once compared to the PS4. Sony's home market Japan didn't even get the PS4 until more than three months after the US and Europe.

That the PS4 is selling better now only says to me that it's still surprisingly popular. You can't compare manufacturing and stock of something that's been done for years to developing something new that requires new manufacturing methods, especially when the manufacturers have yield issues and working in a pandemic.

A case in point is that the Xbox Series X is also sold out and in every single survey and activity analysis I've seen it's been absolutely dominated by the PS5 in terms of demand.

I'm not saying that it doesn't suck that people have to wait for uncertain restock dates to get one, it of course does. I'm just pointing out that unfortunately it wasn't really realistic to expect better, apart from maybe not having realized how bad scalping would be, which I didn't either.

I expect the same thing to happen with the launch of the next generation, unless they've actually solved cloud based gaming and changed the nature of what a console will be.

I am speaking personally from what I eXperienced. I didn't get the Switch. I got the ps4 in 2017. Like I said before, the switch/ps4 never had a stock problem according the store manager I spoken to so I'm assuming in my country it wasn't sold out.

And if the ps4 did sell out before then Sony really had the nerve to launch these consoles in a middle of a pandemic. Imo they are hurting their brand with these problems and even analysts are speculating that these problems won't be good for the long term health of the console and that other games/publishers right now are waiting to release their game (this year) until Sony solves this stock problem so more people would buy their next gen games.

So for the ps6 and I would probably keep my eXpectation in check and not get eXcited by upcoming console to save myself from the disappointment and feeling that I was missing out and not able to get into that new console's owners train.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

I am speaking personally from what I eXperienced. I didn't get the Switch. I got the ps4 in 2017. Like I said before, the switch/ps4 never had a stock problem according the store manager I spoken to so I'm assuming in my country it wasn't sold out.

And if the ps4 did sell out before then Sony really had the nerve to launch these consoles in a middle of a pandemic. Imo they are hurting their brand with these problems and even analysts are speculating that these problems won't be good for the long term health of the console and that other games/publishers right now are waiting to release their game (this year) until Sony solves this stock problem so more people would buy their next gen games.

So for the ps6 and I would probably keep my eXpectation in check and not get eXcited by upcoming console to save myself from the disappointment and feeling that I was missing out and not able to get into that new console's owners train.

Yes, I get that. I'm just giving you some general point on the issue. I haven't bought a console at launch before either so I never had to deal with it.

Sony didn't have much choice since the plans were already in motion. It would have been very expensive for them to hold off the launch, and Microsoft would certainly have thanked for it and taken full advantage. Just look at CDPR and their release of Cyberpunk 2077. They were perhaps the game developer with the most goodwill due to how they had taken care of Witcher 3 over the years, yet they released a game that clearly wasn't ready. The reason is of course because at some point money needs to start coming in, and CDPR is in an easier, more adaptable business than selling hardware is.

I can't see them going with the planned launch hurting the Playstation brand because the major reason why it's sold out everywhere is because demand is incredibly high. Their main competitor is in the same boat so they aren't losing anything in terms of market shares either. Sure people are disappointed but it only matters if it causes people to stop wanting the product, which I don't think is going to happen because there is nothing to buy instead. The XSX is also sold out, Nintendo is more of a side competitor with their different business strategy and PC is much more expensive.

That games might be delayed is certainly a possibility, although I think it would only happen for games that are purely next gen and there aren't a ton of those on the near horizon yet. The last gen will probably keep holding some games back on a technical level for a while, as it's how it usually goes.

Yes, it's advisable to keep expectations low for the next gen since I see nothing that would significantly change the situation. I would love to be wrong though.

 

[psylockolussus]

Yes, I get that. I'm just giving you some general point on the issue. I haven't bought a console at launch before either so I never had to deal with it.

Sony didn't have much choice since the plans were already in motion. It would have been very expensive for them to hold off the launch, and Microsoft would certainly have thanked for it and taken full advantage. Just look at CDPR and their release of Cyberpunk 2077. They were perhaps the game developer with the most goodwill due to how they had taken care of Witcher 3 over the years, yet they released a game that clearly wasn't ready. The reason is of course because at some point money needs to start coming in, and CDPR is in an easier, more adaptable business than selling hardware is.

I can't see them going with the planned launch hurting the Playstation brand because the major reason why it's sold out everywhere is because demand is incredibly high. Their main competitor is in the same boat so they aren't losing anything in terms of market shares either. Sure people are disappointed but it only matters if it causes people to stop wanting the product, which I don't think is going to happen because there is nothing to buy instead. The XSX is also sold out, Nintendo is more of a side competitor with their different business strategy and PC is much more expensive.

That games might be delayed is certainly a possibility, although I think it would only happen for games that are purely next gen and there aren't a ton of those on the near horizon yet. The last gen will probably keep holding some games back on a technical level for a while, as it's how it usually goes.

Yes, it's advisable to keep expectations low for the next gen since I see nothing that would significantly change the situation. I would love to be wrong though.

Given how strong the sales of games due to the pandemic, they certainly could have hold off the launch to meet up with the demand. Especially in this time, almost everything was either delayed or moved. A 1 or 2 month delay wouldhave been understable instead ofthis "waiting til its available because we have a shortage problem". It is almost like ps5 had a limited launch release due to unavailability and it cant be bought anytime as we like. If I had the money to splurge or if Nintendo has games that attract me, I would have been like "f*** Sony, I'm buying a Switch instead" and not bother until the neXt two years with the ps5.

While imo, Series X launching earlier wouldn't be a big deal imo, especially the last one didn't even come close to ps4's sales and they lacked eXclusive games. Switch definitely didn't get hurt by these way more powerful consoles.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

Given how strong the sales of games due to the pandemic, they certainly could have hold off the launch to meet up with the demand. Especially in this time, almost everything was either delayed or moved. A 1 or 2 month delay wouldhave been understable instead ofthis "waiting til its available because we have a shortage problem". It is almost like ps5 had a limited launch release due to unavailability and it cant be bought anytime as we like. If I had the money to splurge or if Nintendo has games that attract me, I would have been like "f*** Sony, I'm buying a Switch instead" and not bother until the neXt two years with the ps5.

While imo, Series X launching earlier wouldn't be a big deal imo, especially the last one didn't even come close to ps4's sales and they lacked eXclusive games. Switch definitely didn't get hurt by these way more powerful consoles.

That makes little sense to me. There just isn't anything that hurts Sony by their console selling out, it just makes the product look attractive. It limits their profits but holding off would do that even more since keeping huge stocks of bulky products is very expensive.

And what would waiting a month or two have helped? We'd have the same amount of consoles as we do now as we are a couple of months after the release and nothing has changed. The only thing accomplished would be that the people that did get their consoles at launch wouldn't have them, and that Sony would have had higher costs, so it just looks like a "if I don't have it I don't want anyone else to have it either" argument.

You can't ignore the context. For example, no console in history has ever sold more units at launch in the US than the PS5. It set a record in Europe as well. That's not shortage, it's just extreme demand that the biggest launch in both US and Europe isn't close to enough to satiate it, and they managed those big launches despite that they launched in more places simultaneously than they did with the PS4. So they clearly didn't have a small number available since then you're not breaking any records.

I don't get why you treat the Series X any different either, other than that you're not looking to buy one yourself. They sold out just like the PS5 so they should be covered by the same argument you make for Sony. I don't see what exclusive games has to do with it. If anything they just help sell the console but clearly it wasn't needed to sell out, and the XSX doesn't lack next gen games.

The Switch isn't a full on competitor to Playstation and Xbox. Nintendo have started to focus on cheaper, less powerful but gimmicky hardware and having their own games be a big selling point. It's a console many get as a complement to a PS or Xbox, plus that there of course are those that only have the Switch, which is great for Nintendo as it puts them in a very good position.

 

[psylockolussus]

PS2-Style PS5 Consoles Withdrawn From Sale After Company Receives 'Credible Threats'

 

[psylockolussus]

Joe's Diner Gets Patch to Make It Backwards Compatible on PlayStation 5

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I preordered my Playstation 5 in early October, and the retailer still can't even comment on when they're getting more of the product. Surely someone knows something? I know there are more pressing matters in life, but I already invested over 500 euros in this. I think I and other people deserve more info than this