I think the big issue people are having with you, Godman, is that you're saying you KNOW TIH is bad, when in fact, you don't. You're using your presumptions that you consider fact, which isn't, to make an assumption about the entire movie. In addition, your assumption goes against what most people on this board and other forums all over the internet think. But you, in thinking your opinion is superior to hundreds, if not millions, is what's ticking people off. 
 
  All people are hearing from you is "Ang's Hulk is better, this one sucks". And you still stand that this is FACT. Fact is inalieable and inarguable, what you're spouting is anything but. Also, if you consider TIH dumbed down, give me stupid everyday of the week. Hulk 03' wasn't complex, it was high-minded and pretentious. TIH is waaay closer to the tone and material from the comics than Hulk 03' ever got. If you want a philospphical disection of the human psyche, go watch A Beautiful Mind, but that stuff should fit a very small space in a Hulk movie.
 
 To sum it up, you just want to **** all over this movie for the sake of ****ting over. You see people getting pumped about it, you see people say how excitied they are for it, and you can't stand it. You love Ang's so much that their is no room in your heart for this one. So the cgi sucks, Norton's acting is chessy, the movie is dumbed down, Liv Tyler sucks compared to Connelly, blah, blah, blah. Give it a rest becasue you're not even being opinionated anymore, you're just being flat-out biased and non-constructive. That is a FACT.