The Rush Limbaugh Thread

[The Senator]

Reality has a liberal bias... deal with it.

 

[VampElvis]

I don't think that's necessarily true. I think a good bit of the country is moderate leaning conservative. I also think most of these types folks have a tendency to go along to get along and not speak up on small matters of contention.

 

[Kelly]

After 2-3 years of listnership I gave up on objectivity from NPR about 7 years ago and moved on to fart humor for my morning commute. But then the music they play got to be to horrible to tolerate and I tired of their same old shenanigans and I moved onto sports radio (local hosts). But it's nice to hear NPR has changed since my departure - maybe I'll give them another shot (I'm getting itchy for something new to which I can listen).



It is - and I agree with that basic tenant wholeheartedly. I want my daughter to grow up in a world where her professional opportunities aren't limited. But I also want her to understand how such an basic and seemingly innocuous thing can be twisted into some really weirdo crap - and when she's old enough I'll teach her that using this and other examples. But my basic points remains - if you investigate the philosophy you can probably find a valid grounds for comparison. Though I choose to hope they political practitioners don't ascribe to any of these more radical schools of thought because I don't want my children in the type of society some of them could create.

I've been listening to NPR for decades.....they didn't "just change". Your problem is, and I see it on both sides....so before you start the "your a liberal thinker thing".....you are going to hear "what you want to hear". It's called selective hearing, and I have an idea that is what you have.

Hey, there are 2 Fox contributors on the Fox News Channel as regular from NPR if that makes you feel better.

 

[The Senator]

If you study the actually PHILOSOPHIES of feminism, not the political movement, you maybe surprised to find that many of it's branches are very radical and could, I suppose, be compared to nazism on that ground. (Stuff that would drastically alter society if adopted.)

And if you studied some of the philosophies of conservatism, you could draw similar connections to Nazism as well. My whole point is that Rush Limbaugh disregards an entire movement by childishly comparing it to Nazism, and such banter makes him incredulous as a political pundit.

Then again... he doesn't have a college degree, so it's entirely understandable that he makes comparisons like that...

 

[Kelly]

And if you studied some of the philosophies of conservatism, you could draw similar connections to Nazism as well. My whole point is that Rush Limbaugh disregards an entire movement by childishly comparing it to Nazism, and such banter makes him incredulous as a political pundit.

Then again... he doesn't have a college degree, so it's entirely understandable that he makes comparisons like that...

I was with you all the way until this Jman....

I'm sorry, but that is elitism to the extreme...

Is Rush ignorant? YES, is it because he doesn't have a college degree? NO....

Jman, my mother could run circles around your political prowess and all of your degrees that you flaunt....till the day she died, she could run circles around ALL OF THE PUNDITS degreed or not..she had a high school diploma....

College doesn't always make you smarter, just louder sometimes.

 

[The Senator]

That wasn't a generalization of all people without a college degree. There are definitely people who are very intelligent without one. My argument is, Limbaugh resorts to childish comparisons without inserting an iota of intellectual thought into them... and because he was a college flunky, it explains, to me, why all he can do is compare certain groups of people to Nazis and mock Parkinson's patients...

 

[Kelly]

That wasn't a generalization of all people without a college degree. There are definitely people who are very intelligent without one. My argument is, Limbaugh resorts to childish comparisons without inserting an iota of intellectual thought into them... and because he was a college flunky, it explains, to me, why all he can do is compare certain groups of people to Nazis and mock Parkinson's patients...

Now, that sounds alittle better.....

BTW, that is #4.

 

[Paradoxium]

Ahh the fresh smell of elitism, dictating us small pawns in their little social engineering experiments, because we are too ignorant to care of ourselves. Only the elites know better.

 

[The Senator]

BTW, that is #4.

It bears mentioning, over and over again, that this is a man who-- rather than discuss the political problems he had with Michael J. Fox appearing in an ad for Claire McCaskill-- decided it would be better to just mock him.

Thankfully, society has been mocking his mocking of Fox since.

 

[Kelly]

It bears mentioning, over and over again, that this is a man who-- rather than discuss the political problems he had with Michael J. Fox appearing in an ad for Claire McCaskill-- decided it would be better to just mock him.

Thankfully, society has been mocking his mocking of Fox since.

I'm just messing with you, I agree, that was disgusting....

 

[StorminNorman]

Reality has a liberal bias... deal with it.

One of the stupidest sayings ever coined.

 

[The Overlord]

Polls Say Democrats Are Gambling By Taking on Limbaugh
by Matt Towery

First, just a word before the following is dismissed by Democratic readers as partisan, or as being from someone who doesn't know what he is talking about. My polling firm, InsiderAdvantage, is non-partisan. It polled the 2008 presidential race for the red-hot political site Politico, and was in a recent speech at Fordham University named by a guru who even D.C. liberals praise as one of the three most accurate national pollsters for the presidential contest.





This column isn't about partisanship. It's about strategy.

I've only met Rush Limbaugh once. It was back when I was politically active, running Newt Gingrich's campaign. One time in particular I had occasion to sit and casually chat with Limbaugh.

It was enlightening. He was the complete opposite of his persona. He was soft-spoken, extraordinarily polite and clearly not taking himself too seriously. My friends who know him well tell me he is still that way today.

Now for a second big personality, Democratic strategist James Carville. He was revealed just this week by media to have reportedly once said he hoped President Bush would fail -- just as Rush Limbaugh has recently been assailed for hoping the same about President Obama.

To be fair, Carville is much like Limbaugh. Sorry, conservatives, but while James can be nasty and shrill on TV -- and, as I write in my book, a tough political opponent -- he also is in private very polite and unassuming, not to mention kind and funny, too.

I would never make James Carville my target if I were trying to tear down the Democratic Party. Likewise, I would be wary of targeting Rush Limbaugh if I were an Obama strategist.

I can understand why some might suggest otherwise. A recent McClatchy newspaper poll reports that Limbaugh has only a 30 percent approval rating, and a 46 percent disapproval rating.

But that poll needs to be placed into perspective. It's likely that most of the 46 percent who say they view Limbaugh unfavorably have never heard his show. And reports of the survey's details suggest that Limbaugh suffers from weakness with independent voters.

Those two facts could prove dangerous for the Democrats in the future. Here's how:

Independents are the swing voters who place either Democrats or Republicans in the White House and in control of the House or Senate. When times are good, most independents will stick with the party for which they last voted. But let an unpopular policy start to get legs -- such as Hillary Clinton's health care proposal years ago -- or let the nation appear to be headed the wrong way while one political party is in charge, and look out!

Independents are open-minded. They will also turn on a dime. Here's a good example: How does anyone think that the Republicans managed to capture the U.S. House of Representatives in 1994 after decades of solid Democratic control and with Bill Clinton in the White House? The answer was "Hillary Care," combined with a general feeling that things in general weren't going so great under Democratic rule.

That's where this Limbaugh strategy seems flawed to me. By taking on Rush, the Democrats are calling attention to his show. That adds listeners. If President Obama were to continue sinking in the polls, and should some of his major early initiatives start to become unpopular, it is highly likely that the curious might just tune in Limbaugh to see what "the other side" has to say.

Limbaugh has two things already going for him. First, he has nearly a third of the nation that views him favorably. Second, anyone who listens to his show knows that Limbaugh plays the role of pompous ringmaster, but in jest. After five minutes it is clear that he is not a hatemonger. And he articulates a message that disaffected independent voters might readily embrace. There is, after all, a reason why he is the No. 1 talk show host in America.

In public opinion polling we keep in mind something that often is not obvious. If just 5 percent of those who say they have an unfavorable opinion of someone shift to favorable, it can be huge. For example, if 7 percent of those who view Limbaugh unfavorably switch to a favorable view, that makes the numbers 37 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable. A statistical tie. Curious independent voters could make that a reality.

The Democrats need to hope that things go well and Limbaugh doesn't keep adding listeners as a result of this attack strategy. Otherwise, two years from now it may be Rush who is in the 50 percent-plus favorable column. That would be quite a feat for a talk show host, and a true threat to the Democrats.

Allow to counter that with an article David Frum in Newsweek (if you want the article, buy the mag). And Frum is hardly a liberal, he is the one who invented the term "Axis of evil".

Whether Rush is nice in private or not is irrelevant, his public persona is what turns people off and who cares if 20 million people listen to him, there 300 million people in America and lot of them can't stand him, he has no traction with women or young people or minorities or independents, all he does is play to the base. A lot people don't like him. He doesn't bring new people in, he just brings in the same aging base.

Frum criticized Rush and Matt Levine jumped down his throat and dismissed him without addressing his criticism. Frum gets tons of hate mail, just because he dared to criticize Rush. Steele had to kiss his butt after issuing some minor criticism to him and Hannity seemed to want to have Rush entered into the Sainthood last week. A lot of people seem have the idea that if you don't like Rush you are not a real conservative, how cultish is that? Is he pundit or a cult leader?

Frum pretty much said Rush's faults were many: he is a loud, obnoxious, out of touch, unwilling to listen to anyone's else point of view, mean spirited, hypocrite, plus he is a media ****e who cares more about his own media empire then anything else.

Rush could have said: "I believe Obama's plan will fail, because all liberal plans do in the end", but he didn't he said " I hope he fails" which comes off as completely completely mean spirited and not productive at all, he said it to get his face on mags, not because he is thoughtful person and felt that was the best way to help out the conservative movement. He is a shameless media ****e.

Plus he wants to keep the conservative movement in the past, when some people say the GOP has move beyond Reagan and come up with ideas for ideas for today's problems, he dismisses those who want to modernize the GOP and not pretend its still the 1980s. If people listen him the GOP will became a party that wants run a version of America that no longer exists. Rush will herd the GOP to its extinction and he won't care because he will get a ton of money and fame in the process.

Frum seems to think Rush is ultimately poison for the GOP and I think he is right.

 

[The Senator]

One of the stupidest sayings ever coined.

It's from Stephen Colbert... of course you should take it with a grain of salt...

 

[The Overlord]

One of the stupidest sayings ever coined.

Is a joke from Stephen Colbert, get a sense of humor.

 

[Kelly]

I love it when people don't take the time to read the post, directly above theirs....

 

[The Overlord]

I love it when people don't take the time to read the post, directly above theirs....

Meh, I felt like addressing the issue as well, sue me. t:

 

[Kelly]

Meh, I felt like addressing the issue as well, sue me. t:

How much $$$$ ya got?

 

[The Overlord]

How much $$$$ ya got?

Not much and its Canadian money. Its like getting blood from a rock.

 

[Kelly]

Not much and its Canadian money. Its like getting blood from a rock.

Aw, well........................

















wait, isn't the Canadian dollar worth more than the dollar right now?


lol.....

 

[The Overlord]

Aw, well........................

















wait, isn't the Canadian dollar worth more than the dollar right now?


lol.....

It was....till the price of oil collapsed, now its way lower then the US dollar, but hey that means Hollywood North is back and all movies will be shot in Toronto even though they are set in NYC. t:

 

[Kelly]

It was....till the price of oil collapsed, now its way lower then the US dollar, but hey that means Hollywood North is back and all movies will be shot in Toronto even though they are set in NYC. t:

Yep, and all TV series and Fox movies in Vancouver...lol

 

[The Senator]

Top Five Racially-Charged Quotes by Rush Limbaugh

1. I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

2. You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed

3. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

4. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares? [referring to supporting African American programs and policies]

5. Take that bone out of your nose and call me back [to an African American female caller].


I'm sure there are more...

 

[MaskedManJRK]

He's doing things differently than the last 233 years.

How so? Looking at his ideas, Obama does seem to be more of the same, with bigger numbers attached to them.

You know what, I join John Stewart in saying get off of Rush's back, obviously this man is a brilliant man of impecible intelligence, humility and restraint, who deserves to be the voice of his party. I mean for starters he's so brilliant even his own mother didn't understand him, saying "he failed at everything" in school. Obviously this is a man of incredible tenacity.

I mean just look at him, truly this is a self-made man, a picture of robust health and intelligence. He completely believes in his party and their ideals.

Supporting our troops? Of course he supports our troops. He even was gracious enough to his listeners to point out which one of our servicemen were in fact "phony soldiers". Oh, and guess what, it was the soldiers who disagreed with the Iraq war. Who'd have thunk for a minute that all the soldiers who would dare question our purpose in that country were in fact completely faking their love of our country and their willingness to die for it. Thank you Rush.

Personal responsibility, he's got that in spades. For one he's so completely brilliant he failed every class he ever attempted, except for radio of course. That certainly indicates to me he knows so much about the world as to tell us how we should live. But his brilliance came with a price, he needed to take incredible amounts of drugs to bring himself down from his tower down to our level, our very low and diminished level...comparative to Rush.

So thank you Rush, thank you for pointing out Michael J. Fox was a fraud, that feminist were ugly, that Democrats were really in fact connected to al-queda. Thank you for draft dodging, so your talents would not be wasted fighting for your country in Vietnam. Thank you for pointing out to me that Barack Obama was a "magic negro", because I agree magic has no place in the White House. Even better that you put it to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon" so I could pass that little gem of wisdom onto my children.

Who could question the integrity of a man who said he wanted to restart the Chicago riots of 1968. Seriously, who? I say who? So lay off Limbaugh, he's a true American hero.

This is funny as s**t. Good job. t:

There are major differences between the Republicans want Obama to fail/Democrats wanted Bush to fail comparison. First, most people didn't "want" Bush to fail right out the gate. It took years of continued bad policy for people to have their current opinions of Bush. Obama's has only been in office under two months. I don't remember any Democrat outright saying they wanted Bush to fail. They said Bush's policies were failing. It was Republicans who put the words in the Democrats mouth. And lastly, the Republicans were the one who though "thinking the President is failing = unpatriotic" connection, yet they are now doing it themselves and justifying it. It's complete BS. I want Obama's plan to succeed for, if nothing else, so it can be rubbed in Limbaugh's fat face.

True, true.

There is a little difference between Rush and the Hollywood Elites. One is he people tune in to him to listen to what his opinion in on certain topics. People watch Actors and Actresses because they want to see them Act. The Hollywood Elites, when they comment on our Country, tear down the country that built them their wealth, they want to force government to control commerce and Corporate Actions. Why does a CEO must have a limit of $500,000 a year when an Actor in Hollywood can make $20 Million a movie. That is the Hypocrisy that Rush talks about.
And Rush's "Contradictions"? Have you listened to him yet? Conservatism is not bashed on "a Series of Contradictions". And, I'm not asking you to respect him. Show me how Conservatism IS Contradictory.

If I remember correctly, Rush does classify himself as an "entertainer." So, really, there's not much difference between him and the liberal actors and entertainers.

Top Five Racially-Charged Quotes by Rush Limbaugh

1. I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

2. You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed

3. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

4. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares? [referring to supporting African American programs and policies]

5. Take that bone out of your nose and call me back [to an African American female caller].


I'm sure there are more...

I've heard some of those before (the NFL and the slavery one, specifically), but the "bone out of your nose" and the "James Earl Ray" thing just sounds too horrific, even for an ******* like Rush. Any links to prove those?

 

[The Senator]

Limbaugh told an African American caller to take the bone out of her nose when he first started his career in broadcast radio in the early 1970s. This comment was covered fairly extensively by the press in the early 1990s, and Limbaugh even admitted to saying the comment in an interview with Newsday.

The comment about James Earl Ray has been disputed, because the book in which it originally appeared does not have a specific air date listed as to when the comment was made. But given his other remarks, I wouldn't put it past him.

 

[The Senator]

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549