The Rush Limbaugh Thread

[Wylie Times]

I think there is a difference in commenting that Obama is a good candidate because he doesn't sound like a negro and commenting that Bush happens to speak spanish like your average Jose.

No there isn't a difference as it comes down to how people relate to a candidate. As I said the only reason Reid got into trouble is because he used the word negro. The comments were clearly complimentary in tone while Rush's comments at best was him slightly race baiting.

Of course he did. But I wouldn't trust Obama's government in giving my contribution to Haiti either.

Then why even argue that he didn't say it as if someone was grossly misquoted.

 

[StorminNorman]

No there isn't a difference as it comes down to how people relate to a candidate. As I said the only reason Reid got into trouble is because he used the word negro. The comments were clearly complimentary in tone while Rush's comments at best was him slightly race baiting.

It wasn't complimentary. It's not a compliment to say "you don't look black" or "you don't sound like a negro" or even "you don't sound black". Now I bet he INTENDED for them to be complimentary, but that itself oozes racism.

Reid's comments are essentially "Obama is a great because he is all the pro's of being a black candidate without really being a black candidate."

If a Republican had said this, he would never be allowed to work in Washington again.

 

[The Overlord]

Where is the second wrong?

Rush being dismissive towards these people who died in the quake. That's worse then being racist. At least racist person could just be ignorant, this is full on malice.

No, he wasn't race baiting - he was KENNEDY baiting. If I make a joke about Colonel Sanders being racist - does that mean I am being racist? No. It means I am joking about Colonel Sanders being racist. This was a joke about KENNEDY being racist.

Its race baiting it suggest that Obama that he is using this "do better with light skinned and black skinned Americans" and that Obama is more less happy with this and suggesting he cares more about Haiti then the US

He is turning this into a racial issue, that is race baiting.

It's not about ratings. At this point Rush doesn't do anything to improve his ratings. Rush is simply criticizing the administration - whether it's criticizing their handling of an American crisis (the economy, terrorist, etc.) or criticizing a Haitian crisis. It's what he does.

It doesn't matter if he used this for political points or ratings, Rush being dismissive towards the quake and trying to use it for his own gain is the mark of a psychopath with no decency.

What is so admirable about Rush, that think he is worthy of admiration, because I don't see a whole lot of positive qualities. This man is a loathsome toad.

Isn't it a Spanish television station?

Cute answer the question.

Is innuedo valid debating tactic or not, because that seems to be what he is using here.

 

[StorminNorman]

Rush being dismissive towards these people who died in the quake. That's worse then being racist. At least racist person could just be ignorant, this is full on malice.

How is Rush being dismissive?

Its race baiting it suggest that Obama that he is using this "do better with light skinned and black skinned Americans" and that Obama is more less happy with this and suggesting he cares more about Haiti then the US

He is turning this into a racial issue, that is race baiting.

Rush isn't saying that Obama cares more about Haiti than the US. What he is saying is that Obama is going to use the Haiti crisis as an opportunity to improve his standing with minority communities (which is stating the obvious). The comment about the "light and dark black skinned communities" is obviously an allusion to Reid's comments.

He isn't turning this into a racial issue. Not in THOSE comments.

It doesn't matter if he used this for political points or ratings, Rush being dismissive towards the quake and trying to use it for his own gain is the mark of a psychopath with no decency.

Again, I have read NOTHING dismissive about the quake. He HAS been dismissive about Obama's reaction to it, but not the quake.

What is so admirable about Rush, that think he is worthy of admiration, because I don't see a whole lot of positive qualities. This man is a loathsome toad.

I think self earned success is always worthy of admiration.

Cute answer the question.

Is innuedo valid debating tactic or not, because that seems to be what he is using here.

I don't think Rush is interested in debate.

 

[bell110]

So one of Obama's strengths was not having a "negro dialect"? His strength was that he wasn't "too black"?

As a matter of fact, it was. Do you think America would have voted for him if he looked and sounded like Jesse Jackson?

I actually agree with Rush's comments here 100%

Obama WILL try to use Haiti to help him with minorities. Obama will use this to try to make himself seen as a humanitarian. This administration DOES see every crisis as a chance for their political gain. To quote Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

The problem is that 1) He's implying Obama really doesn't care about the people of Haiti, it's all just and act. And 2) He would not have called a Republican President out on that. Did he once call Bush on using 9/11 for political gain? It's not that THIS administration sees every crisis as a chance for political gain, it's EVERY administration sees every crisis as a chance for political gain.

 

[The Overlord]

How is Rush being dismissive?

Saying that ""You already give to Haitian relief – it’s called the income tax."
comes off as very dismissive.

What message does send, that merely paying your taxes is all anyone needs to do with this?

How does US income tax in of itself help the 3 millions Hatians in need, after the quake?

Rush isn't saying that Obama cares more about Haiti than the US. What he is saying is that Obama is going to use the Haiti crisis as an opportunity to improve his standing with minority communities (which is stating the obvious). The comment about the "light and dark black skinned communities" is obviously an allusion to Reid's comments.

That's what he is suggesting by saying Obama addressed this faster then when he addressed the Christmas bomber.

Also he seemed to be suggesting that Obama was happy about all this, that Obama cared about political points then helping these people, that is low accusation and he can't prove it.

It seems like Rush is trying to score more low points here then Obama.

He isn't turning this into a racial issue. Not in THOSE comments.

He is brining race into this, when no one else was, he is race baiting.

Again, I have read NOTHING dismissive about the quake. He HAS been dismissive about Obama's reaction to it, but not the quake.

A lot of people think the income tax comment is dismissive.

And using this tragedy to scroe political points, is the mark of a jackal.

I think self earned success is always worthy of admiration.

Being successful doesn't make a person moral. One can be successul and be kind and thoughtful or one can be successful and be cruel and tactless. I would prefer the company of a kind failure then successful A-hole.

Rush being a successful loathesome toad, doesn't make him any less of a loathesome toad.

I don't think Rush is interested in debate.

Are you saying inneudo is a valid tool at all though?

 

[StorminNorman]

Saying that ""You already give to Haitian relief – it’s called the income tax."
comes off as very dismissive.

What message does send, that merely paying your taxes is all anyone needs to do with this?

How does US income tax in of itself help the 3 millions Hatians in need, after the quake?

Rush Limbaugh is correct that every single American who has paid their income tax has already donated to Haitian relief. Our government has donated our own money for us. Now if you want to donate more, by all means do so, but that doesn't change the fact that America is spending money that we don't have on Haitian relief instead of simply letting the American people donate to the cause directly is a valid point.

That's what he is suggesting by saying Obama addressed this faster then when he addressed the Christmas bomber.

I hadn't read that quote...but isn't it accurate? Didn't Obama address this crisis in a shorter time span than he addressed the Christmas bomber?

Also he seemed to be suggesting that Obama was happy about all this, that Obama cared about political points then helping these people, that is low accusation and he can't prove it.

It seems like Rush is trying to score more low points here then Obama.

He is suggesting that Obama benefits from the earthquake - he does. Now whether Obama cares more about the political points than helping the people, I don't know - I would assume that's untrue, but Limbaugh has no obligation to prove such a matter beyond an indisputable doubt either. He is an entertainer, not a public servant or prosecutor or journalist.

He is brining race into this, when no one else was, he is race baiting.

How?

A lot of people think the income tax comment is dismissive.

"A lot of people" can't point to England on a map. His point is 100% correct. It's only dismissive if you want it to be dismissive.

And using this tragedy to scroe political points, is the mark of a jackal.

Every political reaction is to score political points because EVERY government has far bigger needs than dealing with Haiti. The only reason any government is reacting is because it looks bad if they don't. It's ALL ABOUT POLITICAL POINTS.

Being successful doesn't make a person moral. One can be successul and be kind and thoughtful or one can be successful and be cruel and tactless. I would prefer the company of a kind failure then successful A-hole.

I haven't seen any quote or action from Limbaugh I find "cruel", though I can fill a swimming pool with "tactless" quotes.

Are you saying inneudo is a valid tool at all though?

When your job is to entertain, absolutely.

 

[Oddzball]

So one of Obama's strengths was not having a "negro dialect"? His strength was that he wasn't "too black"?

Welcome to the real world. It's not always a nice place. Accent and skin color did not help Jesse Jackson in 1988.

Also, are you still an Obama supported?

Did you mean supporter? If not please define 'Obama supported'.

Yes, Limbaugh's comments were carefully crafted to optimal controversial impact - but the context did not display any racist thoughts by Limbaugh, but implying racist thoughts of Kennedy.

He never said your money isn't going to Haiti. He did say your name would end up on a mailing list. And it almost certainly would.

"Exactly. Would you trust the money's (sent via the White House website) gonna go to Haiti?"

A couple of problems with that claim Stormin... 1) that quote is accurate he did say it, clearly and unmistakablly implying a criminal enterprise was going on there.

2) Ted Kennedy, being dead since last year, cannot be baited.

 

[StorminNorman]

Welcome to the real world. It's not always a nice place. Accent and skin color did not help Jesse Jackson in 1988.

Because Jesse Jackson is a racist, terrible human being.

Did you mean supporter? If not please define 'Obama supported'.

Yes, I meant supporter.

A couple of problems with that claim Stormin... 1) that quote is accurate he did say it, clearly and unmistakablly implying a criminal enterprise was going on there.

Oh well? What's the White House gonna do, sue?

2) Ted Kennedy, being dead since last year, cannot be baited.

Kennedy fans, supporters, sympathetic news makers etc. etc. It was a joke at the expense of a figure disliked by 99% of Rush's listening audience.

 

[Kurosawa]

In my opinion, Limbaugh and his followers should have the taste, class and human decency to let off on this one issue....but seeing as he lacks those three traits, I can't say I'm surprised. He's a subhuman piece of ****, the absolute pits of existence. He's truly a person who is a waste of carbon.

 

[bell110]

Because Jesse Jackson is a racist, terrible human being.

Would you defend Jesse Jackson as much as you defend Rush?

Sometimes I don't know if you are playing devils advocate, your you actually hold yourself to these standards.

 

[Kurosawa]

Devils Advocate is certainly the correct phrase when it involves Limbaugh.

 

[StorminNorman]

Would you defend Jesse Jackson as much as you defend Rush?

Sometimes I don't know if you are playing devils advocate, your you actually hold yourself to these standards.

Jesse Jackson is more vile in his actions than Rush Limbaugh ever has. The only thing Rush is guilty of is VOICING controversial opinions, Jackson has actually COMMITTED crimes and is guilty of complete moral hypocrisy. The worst Rush can be convicted of is drug addiction and making bombastic statements, Jesse Jackson is guilty of PERSECUTING people because of his racist stances, of tormenting people because of his racist views and other crimes such as tax evasion.

You can't, in an honest court, compare Jesse Jackson to Rush Limbaugh.

 

[bell110]

Well, I guess you aren't playing devil's advocate.

 

[Kurosawa]

Jesse Jackson is more vile in his actions than Rush Limbaugh ever has. The only thing Rush is guilty of is VOICING controversial opinions, Jackson has actually COMMITTED crimes and is guilty of complete moral hypocrisy. The worst Rush can be convicted of is drug addiction and making bombastic statements, Jesse Jackson is guilty of PERSECUTING people because of his racist stances, of tormenting people because of his racist views and other crimes such as tax evasion.

You can't, in an honest court, compare Jesse Jackson to Rush Limbaugh.

Truly just absurd.

 

[Wylie Times]

I love how when some people talk about Jesse Jackson they focus and mention all the bad and completely ignore all the good he has done.

 

[Kurosawa]

I love how when some people talk about Jesse Jackson they focus and mention all the bad and completely ignore all the good he has done.

His involvement with the Civil Rights movement in the 60's at least had a good impact on people's lives to a degree. Limbaugh has never done a thing for anyone but himself, unless helping to tear the country apart counts. He's a good part of why his side of America hates the other side. He puts being a conservative ahead of being an American or being a human being. He is, in my opinion, an agent of evil.

 

[Wylie Times]

His involvement with the Civil Rights movement in the 60's at least had a good impact on people's lives to a degree. Limbaugh has never done a thing for anyone but himself, unless helping to tear the country apart counts. He's a good part of why his side of America hates the other side. He puts being a conservative ahead of being an American or being a human being. He is, in my opinion, an agent of evil.

Not to mention all the damn hostages he's sprung loose from foreign countries.

That's not a fair point in regards to Limbaugh, he's done his fair share of charity work for people in the military and fundraising for fighting Leukemia and lymphoma.

It's not fair to demonize ANYONE.

 

[bell110]

Well, as we all know, making money is the American way, despite who you hurt.

 

[StorminNorman]

Truly just absurd.

I love how when some people talk about Jesse Jackson they focus and mention all the bad and completely ignore all the good he has done.

His involvement with the Civil Rights movement in the 60's at least had a good impact on people's lives to a degree. Limbaugh has never done a thing for anyone but himself, unless helping to tear the country apart counts. He's a good part of why his side of America hates the other side. He puts being a conservative ahead of being an American or being a human being. He is, in my opinion, an agent of evil.

Not to mention all the damn hostages he's sprung loose from foreign countries.

That's not a fair point in regards to Limbaugh, he's done his fair share of charity work for people in the military and fundraising for fighting Leukemia and lymphoma.

It's not fair to demonize ANYONE.

LOL, so we are suppose to ignore all the foul acts of Jesse Jackson because of some respectable acts? No. Sorry, that doesn't cut it. When you are guilty of blatant fraud, of blatant hypocrisy, a knowing criminal acts - there comes a time where good deeds doesn't cut it.

Again, with Limbaugh all you have is him simply giving his OPINION and the sin of drug addiction.

Oh my god, what an evil man.

Acts are greater than words and Jesse's actions are worse than Limbaugh's.

Well, as we all know, making money is the American way, despite who you hurt.

Who has Rush hurt?

 

[Wylie Times]

LOL, so we are suppose to ignore all the foul acts of Jesse Jackson because of some respectable acts? No. Sorry, that doesn't cut it. When you are guilty of blatant fraud, of blatant hypocrisy, a knowing criminal acts - there comes a time where good deeds doesn't cut it.

Nobody said anything about ignoring all the bad he's done.

Obviously ignoring the bad someone has done is is wrong, but isn't the reverse true?

To say Jesse Jackson is a terrible human being completely ignores all of the good he has done including the various lives he saved.

As I said before it's not right to demonize ANYONE.

 

[bell110]

You might have missed these questions.

As a matter of fact, it was. Do you think America would have voted for him if he looked and sounded like Jesse Jackson?

The problem is that 1) He's implying Obama really doesn't care about the people of Haiti, it's all just and act. And 2) He would not have called a Republican President out on that. Did he once call Bush on using 9/11 for political gain? It's not that THIS administration sees every crisis as a chance for political gain, it's EVERY administration sees every crisis as a chance for political gain.

Would you defend Jesse Jackson as much as you defend Rush?

Sometimes I don't know if you are playing devils advocate, your you actually hold yourself to these standards.

Who has Rush hurt?

I was talking about the American way, not Rush per se.

Regardless, who has Rush hurt? The short answer is America.

 

[Kurosawa]

You might have missed these questions.







I was talking about the American way, not Rush per se.

Regardless, who has Rush hurt? The short answer is America.

Exactly. He has hurt every American regardless of their political persuasion because he has helped tear the country apart. He's had a huge hand in the way each side has come to hate the other. 2/3 of voters care more about their little suck-ass parties winning than they do about what's best for America. I've yet to decide if independents are the group that really cares or if they are just flip-flopping losers, but I know Democrats and Republicans are all selfish *****es who care more about their little parties than they do about the country.

 

[StorminNorman]

Nobody said anything about ignoring all the bad he's done.

Obviously ignoring the bad someone has done is is wrong, but isn't the reverse true?

To say Jesse Jackson is a terrible human being completely ignores all of the good he has done including the various lives he saved.

As I said before it's not right to demonize ANYONE.

But it's okay to demonize Rush Limbaugh?

The reason I brought up the vile track record of Jesse Jackson is someone brought up his failed election - I was simply pointing out that Jesse Jackson had major gigantic red flags that went beyond his race. Someone then tried to compare Rush Limbaugh to Jesse Jackson - the two are incomparable because Jesse Jackson's actions are significantly worse than anything Rush has ever done.

Again, the only thing you can criticize Rush for is expressing an opinion you find objectionable. Have we come to a point where people are more willing to defend vile ACTIONS (as Jackson has committed), yet condemn vile OPINIONS?

As a matter of fact, it was. Do you think America would have voted for him if he looked and sounded like Jesse Jackson?

If Obama looked like a Jesse Jackson clone today, would he have been elected? No, of course not - that would be terrifying and cause all sorts of questions.

The problem is that 1) He's implying Obama really doesn't care about the people of Haiti, it's all just and act. And 2) He would not have called a Republican President out on that. Did he once call Bush on using 9/11 for political gain? It's not that THIS administration sees every crisis as a chance for political gain, it's EVERY administration sees every crisis as a chance for political gain.

You've found the secret! Rush isn't objective!

Regardless, who has Rush hurt? The short answer is America.

LOL, how?

Exactly. He has hurt every American regardless of their political persuasion because he has helped tear the country apart. He's had a huge hand in the way each side has come to hate the other. 2/3 of voters care more about their little suck-ass parties winning than they do about what's best for America. I've yet to decide if independents are the group that really cares or if they are just flip-flopping losers, but I know Democrats and Republicans are all selfish *****es who care more about their little parties than they do about the country.

Tearing America part upon controversial lines (like say race or ideology), that's something Jesse Jackson surely has never done.

Please, you can't blame Rush for the actions of his listeners - Rush is only relevant, is only successful because people WANT TO LISTEN TO HIM. Rush is only an entertainer.

 

[Nivek]

Exactly. He has hurt every American regardless of their political persuasion because he has helped tear the country apart. He's had a huge hand in the way each side has come to hate the other. 2/3 of voters care more about their little suck-ass parties winning than they do about what's best for America. I've yet to decide if independents are the group that really cares or if they are just flip-flopping losers, but I know Democrats and Republicans are all selfish *****es who care more about their little parties than they do about the country.

Here here... if anything this past year has just shown me why I can never register as a Democrat, given their soft spines and suckyness. The Red's, well... I don't like cults. And from what I seen, Independents are fickle, minds like goldfish.