The Rush Limbaugh Thread

[The Overlord]

Yes, but there is no benefit to striving to be anything less than stellar. I am absurdly confident in my own abilities, and every day I interact with people in the field, my confidence is bolstered. If I don't become the next Karl Rove, fine - I don't need to reach that mark to be happy with life. But there is no reason for me to plan to be anything less than at this point.

Yes, but I have no reason confident in your abilities and that's all I care about.

I have the means to succeed in my field. At age 18 I was a lead campaign strangest for a $400,000 dollar sheriff campaign in North Florida. I have spent the last year interning with one of the most experienced campaign strategists in the state. Over that time I have advised a leading Republican Congressman from Alabama. I am currently doing consulting work for a Republican congressional candidate in North Florida. All of this and I turned 20 this month. I am taking over the medical marijuana campaign in Orlando, a vehicle, if successful, will be a major feather in my cap - most 20 something political wannabes can't point to an actual legislative change they can take credit for.

Except there likely people with resumes as if not more impressive then that who never get anywhere, being a the next Karl Rove is easier said then done.

Ron Paul has even more impressive resume then you, yet he has shown no chance to win enough power to truly change anything.

Intent. Biding time in order to strike when the going is good is not the same as being complacent with the status quo.


Those people that find it pragmatic to sell out entered politics with the intent on personal success. My intent on entering the political field is purely ideological. I want the power to make the changes I want to see done, not to make my bank account fuller.

Do you really think no one has entered politics with good intentions and slowly been corrupted over time? It seems like there far easier ways to make a lot of money through unethical means rather then entering politics.

Some people can enter politics with an intent to change the system, only to have the system change them. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. People can be optimistic when entering politics and very cynical when leaving it.

Because parties DO change. History proves this.

Except I have seen no willingness on the part of the GOP to change at this point, that's all that matters to me, not some far off, speculative date when everything will change.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

The problem I think is that the GOP is becoming another party. They've probably been a different party all together for years now.

They're not really the Republican party, I think.

Now, I've offended dozens of people. But sorry, that's what I think.

 

[StorminNorman]

Yes, but I have no reason confident in your abilities and that's all I care about.

And your confidence is irrelevant into a discussion about why I back the Republican party.

Except there likely people with resumes as if not more impressive then that who never get anywhere, being a the next Karl Rove is easier said then done.

Ron Paul has even more impressive resume then you, yet he has shown no chance to win enough power to truly change anything.

That's because Ron Paul doesn't understand how to package his message, at all. I am more politically savvy than Ron Paul simply because I understand that in this day an age, if you want to win national elections, your campaign points must be able to be made within in 30 second sound bites - Ron Paul can't do it. He gets too concerned with being factually correct he overlooks the packaging of information.

Do you really think no one has entered politics with good intentions and slowly been corrupted over time? It seems like there far easier ways to make a lot of money through unethical means rather then entering politics.

I think the people corrupted to change their intent to better fit themselves and not their ideals are pathetic and I pity them. Has it happened, repeatedly? Of course. But I am no more going to assume that I will end up in such a disgusting situation than I will assume that I will end up face down in a gutter.

Except I have seen no willingness on the part of the GOP to change at this point, that's all that matters to me, not some far off, speculative date when everything will change.

Which explains why you don't trust the GOP. I am not saying YOU should trust the GOP. The GOP is not for everyone.

 

[redfirebird2008]

In reference to a white kid getting beat up by some black kids on a bus and the local law enforcement stating that the incident was not racially motivated:

LIMBAUGH: I think the guy's wrong. I think not only it was racism, it was justifiable racism. I mean, that's the lesson we're being taught here today. Kid shouldn't have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses -- it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama's America.

Nice one, Rush.

LIMBAUGH: If homosexuality being inborn is what makes it acceptable, why does racism being inborn not make racism acceptable? I'm sorry -- I mean, this is the way my mind works. But apparently now we don't choose racism, we just are racists. We are born that way. We don't choose it. So shouldn't it be acceptable, excuse -- this is according to the way the left thinks about things.

Yep, Rush. Babies are born racist. Their idiot racist parents telling them what to think has NOTHING to do with their beliefs later in life.

 

[VampElvis]

I have to wonder if that first quote is in context. I know he sometimes makes really dumb statements like that while playing some role to try and make a broader point. That kinda sounds to me like what me may have been doing. Taken at face value it's just stupid, but I have to wonder if it was part of a larger argument.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I have to wonder if that first quote is in context. I know he sometimes makes really dumb statements like that while playing some role to try and make a broader point. That kinda sounds to me like what me may have been doing. Taken at face value it's just stupid, but I have to wonder if it was part of a larger argument.

It's obvious that he was trying to be snarky about it.

 

[SuBe]

In reference to a white kid getting beat up by some black kids on a bus and the local law enforcement stating that the incident was not racially motivated:



Nice one, Rush.




Yep, Rush. Babies are born racist. Their idiot racist parents telling them what to think has NOTHING to do with their beliefs later in life.

The Racist babies quote, he is talking about the Newsweek Article that is being discussed in the Community right now.

The black kids vs white kids statement, he was being sarcastic, and if you heard the audio, you would know that.

 

[redfirebird2008]

The Racist babies quote, he is talking about the Newsweek Article that is being discussed in the Community right now.

The black kids vs white kids statement, he was being sarcastic, and if you heard the audio, you would know that.

I do know that. See my post above where I said he was obviously trying to be snarky.

 

[SuBe]

Ah. I didn't see that. I hoped you knew better. I should be glad you are on my side

 

[redfirebird2008]

Ah. I didn't see that. I hoped you knew better. I should be glad you are on my side

What side is that? If you don't believe in the NWO, then I'm probably not on your side. t:

 

[voyzovrezon]

Listen for yourselves and see if he's just being "snarky." He sounds to me very resentful of any criticism of white people and says he wonders when Obama will come to the defense of the black kid beating up the white one.

link with audio

 

[Superman]

Listen for yourselves and see if he's just being "snarky." He sounds to me very resentful of any criticism of white people and says he wonders when Obama will come to the defense of the black kid beating up the white one.

link with audio

How anyone can defend this jackass I'll never know.

 

[Kurosawa]

I like how he tries to excuse his racism by claiming it's genetic.

 

[The Overlord]

I have to wonder if that first quote is in context. I know he sometimes makes really dumb statements like that while playing some role to try and make a broader point. That kinda sounds to me like what me may have been doing. Taken at face value it's just stupid, but I have to wonder if it was part of a larger argument.

What larger point did making fun of MJF and the fact that he Parkison's?

Often he isn't a making a bigger point, he is often just an ignortant fool who talks out of his butt, the man's an idiot and people seem to worship him, that's just sad.

Heck making fun of people with Parkinsons is not only a sign that he is an idiot, it is also sign he is a psychopath. So he is psychopathic and stupid, I don't see why people like him.

 

[VampElvis]

Are you serious? You can't see the argument that "they" would go to any length to try an get your political support even by compromising their integrity to the point of of wretching sympathy through the exploitation of a terrible, debilitating illness? (This is a rare case where I was actually listening to his show so I think I understood his point.)

Now understand I don't agree with Limbaugh's on this. I think is was distasteful, no downright abhorrent, and shouldn't have been done. I think he deserves to be run down and have derision heaped upon him, even though I think he did have a point. But let me ask you, were you as outraged about the MJF as Zorro joke on Family Guy? Does this make Seth McFarlane a stupid psychopath?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I saw that Michael J. Fox Zorro joke last night, again.

Still funny. I still feel bad for laughing.

I wonder if Rush has ever been in a fight before, though. Hearing his comments last night, makes me think he never has. Ever.

 

[VampElvis]

If so, I imagine he probably got his butt handed to him. And I have a Family Guy confession to make, on the episode where Peter loses his bones, it makes me think of Limbaugh when I see him. I'm not really sure why, probably the doughy look, but there's an association there for some reason.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

It's probably like you said.

The doughy look.

 

[SuBe]

I like how he tries to excuse his racism by claiming it's genetic.

He is Commenting on the Newsweek article.

 

[The Overlord]

Are you serious? You can't see the argument that "they" would go to any length to try an get your political support even by compromising their integrity to the point of of wretching sympathy through the exploitation of a terrible, debilitating illness? (This is a rare case where I was actually listening to his show so I think I understood his point.)

Now understand I don't agree with Limbaugh's on this. I think is was distasteful, no downright abhorrent, and shouldn't have been done. I think he deserves to be run down and have derision heaped upon him, even though I think he did have a point. But let me ask you, were you as outraged about the MJF as Zorro joke on Family Guy? Does this make Seth McFarlane a stupid psychopath?

What point did he have exactly? That people with Parkinson's shouldn't try to teach and show people how terrible their disease in order to get funds and research to get a cure for their illness? Yes how dare MJF try and do that. How dare people try and show the effects of Parksinson's in order to get people to support their cause. How dare they.

I don't see a valid point, just Rush being a psychopath and an idiot.

Seth McFarlane doesn't try to present his show as public discoure. it isn't treated like public discourse, exactly? That's the problem here, his show is infotainment and I hate infotainment, people treat him like he is a serious political figure, that's the problem I have with him.

The difference is people will know the Family Guy thing is a joke, because the family Guy show makes no pretense of being serious, Rush does. That's why I don't like him.

I'm growing tired of family Guy anyway, its way less funny at this point. Not only was the AIDs song offensive, it was also not funny.

 

[VampElvis]

Perhaps you missed where I spelled at his point in my post?

If making fun of someone with a disease is wrong then it's wrong, however if I were inclined to make allowances on the matter I would tend to be more lenient to it in the realm of political discourse than in the realm of fart jokes.

And I am sad about the decline of Family Guy. I only watch it on Adult Swim now. It's depressing.

 

[The Overlord]

Perhaps you missed where I spelled at his point in my post?.

Nope, check the post again, I edited it to address that, the point is invalid and Rush is still a psychopath and an idiot in my books. I have no respect for his "point".

If making fun of someone with a disease is wrong then it's wrong, however if I were inclined to make allowances on the matter I would tend to be more lenient to it in the realm of political discourse than in the realm of fart jokes.

And I am sad about the decline of Family Guy. I only watch it on Adult Swim now. It's depressing.

The point is with Family Guy you know everything is a joke so that joke won't change anyone's opinion on Parkison's, with Rush a lot of people take his show seriously soeven if is a jokem, which I don't think he was, then he spreading misinformantion about it. That's the difference.

Rush's show is presented as public discourse, Family Guy is not, so of course Rush's show should be held to a higher standard. Its like comparing a show on Comedy Central to show on CNN, clearly even of these networks should be held to higher stndard then the other. Seth Macfarlane is not a psychopath because he is not trying to spread misinformation like Rush does.

 

[VampElvis]

I never said the point was valid, nor did I mean to insinuate what Limbaugh did was a joke as it clearly wasn't. But he's such a polarizing figure he's lambasted for whatever he says valid or not. I'm no sycophant of his, and I have no real problem with him being take to task on this (as I've said numerous times now) even though I understand what he was trying to say.

As far as the FG argument, I don't think either are going to change anyone's opinions on Parkinson's nor do I think anyone should get a free pass because something is a joke. If anything I think MacFarlane should be taken to task more than Limbaugh! He repeatedly makes racial and handicapped jokes to a more broad audience than Limbaugh. If either of the two he may have a larger impact in today's society in making it seem OK to make fun of someone because they are different you gotta say it would be MacFarlane. But that's an argument for a different thread, I suppose so I'll leave it at that.

 

[The Overlord]

I never said the point was valid, nor did I mean to insinuate what Limbaugh did was a joke as it clearly wasn't. But he's such a polarizing figure he's lambasted for whatever he says valid or not. I'm no sycophant of his, and I have no real problem with him being take to task on this (as I've said numerous times now) even though I understand what he was trying to say.
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Goodie for him, he said something psychopathic to make a really stupid point.

As far as the FG argument, I don't think either are going to change anyone's opinions on Parkinson's nor do I think anyone should get a free pass because something is a joke. If anything I think MacFarlane should be taken to task more than Limbaugh! He repeatedly makes racial and handicapped jokes to a more broad audience than Limbaugh. If either of the two he may have a larger impact in today's society in making it seem OK to make fun of someone because they are different you gotta say it would be MacFarlane. But that's an argument for a different thread, I suppose so I'll leave it at that.

But that's made in different context, clearly none of stuff is meant to be taken seriously, what Rush says is, that's the difference. Context makes all the difference, that's why can't compare Family Guy to Rush or anything on Comedy Central to anything on CNN. South Park is really offensive, but I'm not going to be offended by it because its a cartoon.

Is Rush comparable to a cartoon now?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Is Rush comparable to a cartoon now?

nice.