The Shadow Knows

[Comics N' Toons]

ALRIGHT, I DOUBT MANY OF YOU FANBOYS KNOW A LOT ABOUT LAMONT CRANSTON or KENT ALLARD (whichever you prefer) AKA the shadow...


yes maybe a lot of you have seen the movie the shadow from 1994..

i loved it... BUT IT NEEDED TO BE DARKER!

more violent like the pulps that this great american character came from...

YOU GUYS GIVE UP YOUR THOUGHTS ON A REMAKE OR SEQUAL!


i love the shadow.....

who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men??? THE SHADOW KNOWS

 

[Gilpesh]

First. Calm down... maybe hold your tongue so you don't swallow it.

I think the Shadow was alright, not good. Could have been so much better. It was on like a million times when I was at college and I kept thinking it is one of those movies that needs to be remade and not as a little throw away action movie like it was made as. Like you said, needed to be darker cause there wasn't much evil lurking in the hearts of men in that movie.

 

[comicfan4Life]

Sam Rami is supposedly doing a shadow film soon. He talked about it in Wizard. So maybe you'll get you're darker movie. He based darkman off of the shadow.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Sam Rami is supposedly doing a shadow film soon. He talked about it in Wizard. So maybe you'll get you're darker movie. He based darkman off of the shadow.

He based Darkman ON The Shadow, not 'off the Shadow". Raimi is producing, not directing, by the way.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I also loved The Shadow in his 1994 film; I was 14 at the time, and had never even heard of the pulp comics (found out later on, though). I'd seen Alec Baldwin in Beetlejuice and Red October, but just the trailer for it got me interested. I loved the late Peter Boyle as Moe Shrevnitz, and it wasn't until years later that I realized Margot Lane's scientist dad was played by Ian McKellen. Still a film that I enjoy; it's right up there with Spider-Man and Batman Begins for me. I heard about the remake, and was thrilled beyond belief. Who do you think should don the cape? Alec's a bit too old for it now.

 

[dmbdmbdmb]

the shadow movie could've been better they didn't truly delve into lamont cranston's backstory about how and why he ended up in asia and why was he so evil. i think sam raimi will reboot the character and do the new movie a la batman begins.

 

[Steve the Dude]

I liked the Shadow movie a lot until the end where the atom bomb goes plunking downstairs with out exploding.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

the shadow movie could've been better they didn't truly delve into lamont cranston's backstory about how and why he ended up in asia and why was he so evil. i think sam raimi will reboot the character and do the new movie a la batman begins.

As Batman Begins so well illustrates, the more you explain a character, the more you reveal about them, the less mysterious they become. The Shadow is the embodiment of mystery, therefore the less we know about him (beyond the basics so we can relate to Lamont Cranston) the better.

 

[Warhammer]

I constantly rant about The Shadow all the time on these boards.
I'm one of film's biggest fans.

 

[Dr. Fate]

I liked the Shadow film. Too bad it didn't do better at the box office.

 

[Dark Guardian]

I really hate to dissagree with the creator of this thread so much, but I just have to.

I was a fan of the radio show, which the 1994 movie was largely based on (note the "Nice Tie by the way, where did you get it? Brooks Brothers, Fourth and Madison reference, which was put in to echo how they would place subtle ads in the radio show) and from my point of view, that movie is about as close to the Shadow as you can possibly get.

Just speaking from a 'faithfulness to the source material' point, this movie was extremely good, and ultimately very faithful to its predecessors.

Not to mention the superb acting, the awesome visual effects, especially those dealing with the Shadow's movement and transformations, which at the time were cutting edge, and the epic plot.

All in all, I view this film as one of the masterpieces of Comic Theater. It portrayed the characters so vividly and faithfully from what I used to listen to as a kid, and it did it with style, flair and sophistication.

If they remake this movie, I am going to be pissed. And the one thing I am more a fan of than the Shadow, is the Batman. I have several cases of fully functional batarangs at home, and I intend to use them if anybody decides that they need to screw with the Shadow, and 're-invent' the character.

End of tirade.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Without the Shadow, there would be no Batman.

Without Batman (1989), there would be no The Shadow (1994).

 

[Memphis Slim]

As Lamont Cranston, Alec played Bruce Wayne very well.

I think Tim Burton, in his attempt to be so frikkin' quirky passed over the guy who should have been in the '89. film.

If that isn't a picture of Bruce Wayne, I don't know what is.

 

[dmbdmbdmb]

ithe 1994 movie was okay but i think one of the reasons it didn't make money at the box office is because lots of people didn't know the shadow's character and people still don't that's why i think columbia will reboot it and sam raimi will do it a la batman begins to fully delve into cranston's backstory it will help people understand his character better and get people interested in him.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

As Lamont Cranston, Alec played Bruce Wayne very well.

I think Tim Burton, in his attempt to be so frikkin' quirky passed over the guy who should have been in the '89. film.

If that isn't a picture of Bruce Wayne, I don't know what is.

I agree Baldwin, in The Shadow, is the most perfect Bruce Wayne ever seen onscreen.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

ithe 1994 movie was okay but i think one of the reasons it didn't make money at the box office is because lots of people didn't know the shadow's character and people still don't that's why i think columbia will reboot it and sam raimi will do it a la batman begins to fully delve into cranston's backstory it will help people understand his character better and get people interested in him.

That makes no sense.

You say people didn't go to see the original Shadow in 1994 because they didn't know the character. Fair enough.

But even if Sam Raimi's movie explains who the Shadow is, it won't make any difference because people have to PAY to SEE the movie beforehand. And beforehand, people still don't know who the Shadow is, which is, as you say, the problem the first movie had.

 

[KenK]

That makes no sense.

You say people didn't go to see the original Shadow in 1994 because they didn't know the character. Fair enough.

But even if Sam Raimi's movie explains who the Shadow is, it won't make any difference because people have to PAY to SEE the movie beforehand. And beforehand, people still don't know who the Shadow is, which is, as you say, the problem the first movie had.

And it's sad, because the movie was (AND STILL IS) pretty damn good! I always love catching The Shadow on cable, and about the only thing I fault it for was John Lone's terribly fake beard! When that's my ONLY complaint about the film, I'd say that's pretty damn good. It told me enough about Lamont's character with the simple dialogue from his uncle (a SUPERB Johnathan Winters) about him going missing after "the war", and most people should be able to fill in the pieces. As involving as the Kent Allard stuff might have been for fans of the character, I think it would have been convoluted to casual moviegoers, who already had to deal with the Ying Ko persona he created for himself, then his powers, which he used to change people's perception of his facial features, not to mention appear invisible.

All things considered, I think the film's terribly underrated, and stands up there with stuff like The Rocketeer for the pure pulp comic essence it captured. The storyline was simple and straightforward without feeling like it was dumbed down for the audience, the acting had that overly dramatic feel of a radio show without feeling cheesy or stupid, the art direction was stunning, I really could go on.

 

[Memphis Slim]

I agree Baldwin, in The Shadow, is the most perfect Bruce Wayne ever seen onscreen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis Slim
As Lamont Cranston, Alec played Bruce Wayne very well.

I think Tim Burton, in his attempt to be so frikkin' quirky passed over the guy who should have been in the '89. film.

If that isn't a picture of Bruce Wayne, I don't know what is.


He sure was. I think he surpassed Bale a little. ....just a little.

 

[Memphis Slim]

I didn't like the movie. It took too much of a mystical turn for me. I would have preferred more earthy flavor.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I didn't like the movie. It took too much of a mystical turn for me. I would have preferred more earthy flavor.

But that's personal taste, not a valid criticism of the movie itself.

 

[Comics N' Toons]

You people... You have some great input BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE SHADOW in general... not just a 1994 movie made about the character!

MORE THOUGHTS....

 

[Kevin Roegele]

You people... You have some great input BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE SHADOW in general... not just a 1994 movie made about the character!

MORE THOUGHTS....

Yeah......anyone would think this thread is on a Misc. Comics FILMS messageboard, in the General MOVIES section-!!

 

[Memphis Slim]

Yep....that ol' "FILMS" title on this board kinda' threw me off there. t:

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Hahahahaha

 

[Memphis Slim]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UG8TeXF-wB0


I didn't think it captured the old pulp novels and radio shows. It was too much like watching Doctor Strange.....not a very good movie, too me.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZfTK0KaUmPw