The Wachowskis' Ninja Assassin

[matrix_ghost]

Why is Kill Bill crap though? It's just a straight up revenge movie with great characters and homages to old school kung fu flicks. What's the problem?

You say homage . i say rip off.
My main problem with Tarantino is that he also steals techniques from old movies which is fun for the first 10 minutes and afterwards starts to get real old real fast. I don't have to to watch his movies in order to get an idea of how old movies were. I can easily go on to a movie store , rent some old jess franco or shaw brothers movies and watch them.
What they used in originality , Tarantino just steals the whole.
And since you brought Kill Bill , aside from the above , i thought Uma Thurman really had trouble making her dialogue sound .."real" if that is the right word. Great actors can turn silly lines into credible lines with weight.

But her lines , jesus christ. I literally was rolling my eyes when she wrestled thru stuff like :

It was not my intention to do this in front of you. For that I'm sorry. But you can take my word for it, your mother had it comin'. When you grow up, if you still feel raw about it, I'll be waiting.

As I said before, I've allowed you to keep your wicked life for two reasons. And the second reason is so you can tell him in person everything that happened here tonight. I want him to witness the extent of my mercy by witnessing your deformed body. I want you to tell him all the information you just told me. I want him to know what I know. I want him to know I want him to know. And I want them all to know they'll all soon be as dead as O-Ren.

 

[Nivek]

Can you guys take the Tarantino discussion to another Tarantino-based thread, please?

 

[Asgard]

Heh.

WARNING: Only one ninja was harmed in the making of this movie. The rest were all killed.

 

[Asgard]

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[Nivek]

Yeah, I like that spot.

One thing I noticed, Sho Kosugi looks damn good for his age. It rocks so damn hard that he is a major player in this movie, I watched all his Ninja films back in the 80's... Enter the Ninja, Revenge of the Ninja, 9 Deaths of the Ninja, Pray for Death, and loved his cameos in other films like Blind Fury.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Damn, I hate when they take a movie and ruin it with rap on the soundtrack.

 

[KenK]

Damn, I hate when they take a movie and ruin it with rap on the soundtrack.

Martial arts movies and hip-hop are like Peanut Butter and Chocolate. You must hate Samurai Champloo. And Wu-Tang Clan.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Kill him!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Damn, I hate when they take a movie and ruin it with metal on the soundtrack.

 

[KenK]

Hell, who did the music for Kill Bill Vol. 1? THE RZA, MF'ers!!! I'd be mad if there WASN'T any hip-hop on the soundtrack!

 

[Dr. Evil]

Heh.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Hell, who did the music for Kill Bill Vol. 1? THE RZA, MF'ers!!! I'd be mad if there WASN'T any hip-hop on the soundtrack!

Exactly. RZA is a ****ing genius though. He transcends all types of music.

 

[KenK]

Exactly. RZA is a ****ing genius though. He transcends all types of music.

The stuff he did on the Afro Samurai sequel was ridiculous!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

You heard Formula for the Cure? That had some crazy **** on it.

 

[rashad]

Martial arts movies and hip-hop are like Peanut Butter and Chocolate. You must hate Samurai Champloo. And Wu-Tang Clan.

+1 They go hand and hand. And I loved the Samurai Champloo anime.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Martial arts movies and hip-hop are like Peanut Butter and Chocolate. You must hate Samurai Champloo. And Wu-Tang Clan.

Never say Samurai Champloo and I don't like the Wu-Tang Clan.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

So that explains it...

Even my dad who HATES hip hop respects the genius of RZA.

 

[Dr. Evil]

RZA is in my opinion, the best rapper in the Wu Tang Clan. But too bad he's not on this soundtrack. Instead it's Raekwon, who's okay. I would not have minded Method Man, but he's usually too damn high or Ghostface Killah.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Naa I think Inspectah Deck is the best rapper technically. All the Wu are pretty sick though.

RZA is just a genius though.

 

[ChickenScratch]

I'm still gonna disagree with the

Martial arts movies and hip-hop are like Peanut Butter and Chocolate.

thing, since I've been a martial artist 24 of my 29 years and have no taste for hip-hop, rap or whatever you may wish to call it. Of course, actual martial arts and rap guys who are fans of martial arts movies are different issues.

 

[ninjaracer]

Ninja Assassin Rain Interview in Toronto



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl9ISpkFZXY

 

[Nivek]

Surprised we are not seeing more reviews at this point.

 

[KenK]

I'm still gonna disagree with the thing, since I've been a martial artist 24 of my 29 years and have no taste for hip-hop, rap or whatever you may wish to call it. Of course, actual martial arts and rap guys who are fans of martial arts movies are different issues.

Well, I just notice that pairing urban pop culture with martial arts entertainment is something that's been around since the blaxploitation films of the 70s. It evolved in the eighties, or at least tried to, with movies like The Last Dragon, and acknowledged the appreciation of martial arts films within urban communities. Then of course, you had the Wu-Tang Clan coming out in the early/mid 90s really following through with the idea. They way they would equate rhyming and lyricism to swordfighting and hand-to-hand combat styles, it's still pretty impressive to me.

I certainly wasn't trying to say martial arts and rap should ALWAYS go together, but I think there's more than enough evidence to suggest that there's a big audience for that kind of combination.

What martial arts have you studied, by the way? And since your were five, huh? Are you parents martial artists as well?

 

[rashad]

Surprised we are not seeing more reviews at this point.

I think they're under embargo until early next week. There have been a few off the record reviews on a site or two.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Well, I just notice that pairing urban pop culture with martial arts entertainment is something that's been around since the blaxploitation films of the 70s. It evolved in the eighties, or at least tried to, with movies like The Last Dragon, and acknowledged the appreciation of martial arts films within urban communities. Then of course, you had the Wu-Tang Clan coming out in the early/mid 90s really following through with the idea. They way they would equate rhyming and lyricism to swordfighting and hand-to-hand combat styles, it's still pretty impressive to me.

I certainly wasn't trying to say martial arts and rap should ALWAYS go together, but I think there's more than enough evidence to suggest that there's a big audience for that kind of combination.

What martial arts have you studied, by the way? And since your were five, huh? Are you parents martial artists as well?

Seido Karate 3rd Degree Black Belt
Kyokushin Karate 2nd Degree Black Belt
Choi Kwang Do Jr Black

My father was a boxer which I also learned, but I started karate because the private school I went to offered Seido Karate as an after school program, 2 hours every day. Then when I was old enough I started to teach and compete.