Sequels The Whys Of X3 and Reasons for X4

[DrChronic]

Havent you all figured it out yet...

X-Men is the new star wars trilogy, in time the trio of films will make for a another trilogy unlike star wars wont make a prequil but a sequil.

Ok heres how i see it, we all know the younger generation has signed on and that the older ones have not. but this is because i feel there going to show X-Men in a new light when they do make a new movie

There will be a gap of about 5 years and the younger generation has grown up.

Beast will become the new leader of the x-men well when i say leader i mean sort of overwatching what the other x-men do, like xavier only not so wheelchaired bowned.

We will have a team of Iceman, Angel, Colossus, Rogue and Shadow Cat. These are the x-men now. and somewhat a better team than the last one.

They killed Jean and Scott because i feel that the big bosses who decides whose in the movie doesnt like many characters of the same nature of power. So Gambit and Scott have been classed as the same powers, same with White Queen and Jean. Hence why i believe we got rid of Jean and Scott in the franchise.

So they bring in White Queen, and Gambit. but on the side of evil because lets face it we need them to be, a new magneto role, Sinister and a new ploy which is apocaylpse.

The whole thing will see the whole world falling apart.

 

[Johnny Israel]

first and foremost good idea for the topic and while i agree wiht you on some points, i disagree slightly on others. I do think in the realm that the younger x-men members will more then liekly comprise the next triology, because believe you and me there will be more based on the drive for cash. I do think leaving cyke's death as off screen and with jean..well being jean, we shall likely see them both return perhaps not in huge roles, but roles none the less. I do think Gambit will defintly be the next big charcter for our heroes to be introduced, and do also find sinister and apocalypse to be the next big obstacle. I was working on a fan scripts for the next triology which like others, i had my viisons of for X-4 and so on, but stopped since i lack the desire to follow the aspiration through and due to i dont wanna make my own speculations on the future of the franchise until i see the wolverine movie and magneto movie, and then whatever the third movie i believe zak penn said hed be writing. I think in the next triology we shall defintly be seeing some of the prveious big names, soley because of that, they are big names. Berry, Jackman, Stewart, they draw money. So look for most of them to stick around for quite a bit.

 

[2nzy]

hear hear!
sounds ****in ace to me!

 

[javi1024]

i like the idea of focusing on all the new recruits. i think they should have spent more time doing that in X3. but that doesnt mean were not gonna see the original team again. storm is headmistress now. she will be involved (halle berry or not). wolverine is a huge attraction to the franchise. i would love jackman to stay, but i dont see him staying very long so we might have to start considering replacements.

as far as professor, scott, and jean- i dont know what they plan to do with xavier. i think id prefer it that he just died. scott is obviously still in the air- i want them to go the mr. sinister route if they revive him. and keep jean and magneto out.

 

[YJ1]

X4 WILL happen. The only question is if it'll happen before 2010 and will it feature the original cast.

Forget clones or twin brothers. If they want to bring back Xavier, all they have to do is establish that Jean didn't disintegrate anyone in X3. Rather, she just transported all those people to another dimension ALA Nightcrawler. That way, it's just Xavier communicating with Moria through that body from another dimension. Also, Cyclops and Psylocke can rejoin the franchise. That's a bit silly and it lessens the impact of X3 but it beats the twin brother crap mentioned by the writers on the DVD commentary. Also, Jean can still be trapped under the Lake as it was just a corrupt Doppelganger created by her fractured mind that arose and did damage in X3.

X4 should feature NO Storm, Magneto, Mystique or Brotherhood. It should feature the rest of the X-Men seen to date and Gambit. Resurrect everyone and rescue Jean using Psylocke and Xavier within the first 20 minutes of the film. Keep Jean in a coma until the end of the film where she rises and saves the day with full Phoenix effects. Use Cyclops more and give us a full Registration Act storyline featuring plenty of real Sentinels.

See, easy plot with both fans and the general public happy as can be. Eliminating Halle & Ian's salary as well as their costly displays of power would give X4 budget flexability. This is how Fox should be thinking at this early date and X4 should be planned directly after the Wolverine spin off.

 

[Johnny Israel]

X4 WILL happen. The only question is if it'll happen before 2010 and will it feature the original cast.

Forget clones or twin brothers. If they want to bring back Xavier, all they have to do is establish that Jean didn't disintegrate anyone in X3. Rather, she just transported all those people to another dimension ALA Nightcrawler. That way, it's just Xavier communicating with Moria through that body from another dimension. Also, Cyclops and Psylocke can rejoin the franchise. That's a bit silly and it lessens the impact of X3 but it beats the twin brother crap mentioned by the writers on the DVD commentary. Also, Jean can still be trapped under the Lake as it was just a corrupt Doppelganger created by her fractured mind that arose and did damage in X3.

X4 should feature NO Storm, Magneto, Mystique or Brotherhood. It should feature the rest of the X-Men seen to date and Gambit. Resurrect everyone and rescue Jean using Psylocke and Xavier within the first 20 minutes of the film. Keep Jean in a coma until the end of the film where she rises and saves the day with full Phoenix effects. Use Cyclops more and give us a full Registration Act storyline featuring plenty of real Sentinels.

See, easy plot with both fans and the general public happy as can be. Eliminating Halle & Ian's salary as well as their costly displays of power would give X4 budget flexability. This is how Fox should be thinking at this early date and X4 should be planned directly after the Wolverine spin off.

I could not agree more with your thoughts. I'm possily gunna work on a fan script centralizing around the registration act. Also to counter the effects of the cure, I was going reveal the scientist who actually helped produce the "cure" was Nathaniel Esssex. Bascially essex never intended to cure the mutant gene but expand upon it. It has different reactions.....my thought specifically was mystique stays normal, so we dont need her to come back, and rogue's powers not only come back but expands her powers, such as flight and enhances strength. But im defintly going to make the registration act the focal point, and recall the animated series? Well lets just say Angel gets the morph treatment.

 

[Johnny Israel]

X4 WILL happen. The only question is if it'll happen before 2010 and will it feature the original cast.

Forget clones or twin brothers. If they want to bring back Xavier, all they have to do is establish that Jean didn't disintegrate anyone in X3. Rather, she just transported all those people to another dimension ALA Nightcrawler. That way, it's just Xavier communicating with Moria through that body from another dimension. Also, Cyclops and Psylocke can rejoin the franchise. That's a bit silly and it lessens the impact of X3 but it beats the twin brother crap mentioned by the writers on the DVD commentary. Also, Jean can still be trapped under the Lake as it was just a corrupt Doppelganger created by her fractured mind that arose and did damage in X3.

X4 should feature NO Storm, Magneto, Mystique or Brotherhood. It should feature the rest of the X-Men seen to date and Gambit. Resurrect everyone and rescue Jean using Psylocke and Xavier within the first 20 minutes of the film. Keep Jean in a coma until the end of the film where she rises and saves the day with full Phoenix effects. Use Cyclops more and give us a full Registration Act storyline featuring plenty of real Sentinels.

See, easy plot with both fans and the general public happy as can be. Eliminating Halle & Ian's salary as well as their costly displays of power would give X4 budget flexability. This is how Fox should be thinking at this early date and X4 should be planned directly after the Wolverine spin off.

I could not agree more with your thoughts. I'm possily gunna work on a fan script centralizing around the registration act. Also to counter the effects of the cure, I was going reveal the scientist who actually helped produce the "cure" was Nathaniel Esssex. Bascially essex never intended to cure the mutant gene but expand upon it. It has different reactions.....my thought specifically was mystique stays normal, so we dont need her to come back, and rogue's powers not only come back but expands her powers, such as flight and enhances strength. But im defintly going to make the registration act the focal point, and recall the animated series? Well lets just say Angel gets the morph treatment.

 

[Mother_Askani]

I'm not sure if the reason for a gap between X3 and X4 is to allow the younger group to grow up.

I think the financial considerations with the cost of the cast made them reconsider how they were making the X-films.

The longer the wait for X4, the greater the ability Fox has to recast roles.

Femke is already 41 and Halle is 40. Not to criticize older actresses, but Jean and Storm should be in their early 30s. If they wait a few years to film a trilogy and it takes 10 years to complete it, they will be far too old.

Other than Ellen Page, the younger actors aren't that young, and if they wait 10 years, it's the opportunity to cast someone more like Bobby, Rogue and Peter to play those characters.

The films need to avoid the problems cause by retcons bringing characters back. None of this pod-Jean or Dark Phoenix inpersonating Jean or something crazy like Jean is a Skrull. Dead is dead.

Fox is going to want a big name director to come in, and Joss Whedon is the one that would be at the top of their list. If they want him, he's going to write the script his way, and he's going to have his characters (no Gambit, lots of Kitty Pryde) and probably a total reboot. Since Joss comes from a tv background, he knows how to make a film on a tight budget, and he's someone that would make everyone excited about a new X-trilogy. It would just have to be after he finishes Wonder Woman in a couple of years.

 

[Mother_Askani]

Even if there isn't a reboot, if X3 and X4 are set several years apart, there's the opportunity to make serious changes, and they can re-introduce the characters in a different way.

For example,

Something that went wrong with the cure could have caused Rogue and Mystique to meet up, and now Rogue's part of Mystique's new Brotherhood. Maybe Gambit is also a member.

But Mystique manipulates Rogue into absorbing someone permanently, and she goes back to Xavier's for help. (ie Uncanny X-Men 171)

Maybe Kitty had quit the X-Men to enroll in college, but comes back at the beginning of the movie (like the beginning of AXM 1)

To resolve the Scott and Jean plotline, there would also be time for some sort of plot line like Sinister doing strange genetic experiments with Summers and Grey DNA, possibly creating Nathan Christopher.

The Search for Cyclops storyline could be used there (especially since Nate is bothered that they never found Scott's body), but I think the line from Astonishing 3, "It's about the body they're running the test on", would be better, but Scott should stay dead.

If they actually have a plan for the trilogy, rather than pulling everything out of the thin air every script, they could do something along the lines of introduce Nathan Christopher in X4, have him infected with the TO virus (or Legacy virus) in X5, and have him return as Cable in X6.

 

[Destructicus]

I would like to see the hints of apocalypse, have bishop come into the universe and bishop being the reason that scott had disapeared and why jean was out cold when logan and storm found her. Then they could introduce the sentenals with the registration act as bishop helps the xmen get rid of the sentinals. after a huge sentinal battle, bishop tells the xmen that he is really going to need their help to stop the actual future he is from from happening. Then at the end of the credits we see a vision of the future and Apocalyse killing some unknown mutants.

 

[Mother_Askani]

I would like to see the hints of apocalypse, have bishop come into the universe and bishop being the reason that scott had disapeared and why jean was out cold when logan and storm found her. Then they could introduce the sentenals with the registration act as bishop helps the xmen get rid of the sentinals. after a huge sentinal battle, bishop tells the xmen that he is really going to need their help to stop the actual future he is from from happening. Then at the end of the credits we see a vision of the future and Apocalyse killing some unknown mutants.

In the X3 commentary, Zak says that they introduced Bolivar Trask in X3 specifically for X4 (if it happens) and that there is definitely a government Sentinel program going on secretly. That probably means the Mutant Registration Act as well.

The question is whether or not they want to involve a lot of more sci-fi elements, like time travel or Apocalypse, or want to keep it rooted in reality.

The other problem with that is the cost of doing the Sentinels, which has been an issue since the first movie. If they want another 10 years for X4, will the computer animation needed to do Sentinels be cost effective enough for them to finally appear in a movie.

 

[javi1024]

i want them to keep it grounded to reality as much as possible. i feel like if they start introducing characters like apocalypse it will follow the path of Blade Trinity. but at the same time going toward the comic book could be a good thing (thats what i liked about X3) and theres only so much you could with the X-Men vs. U.S. Government. id like to see stuff with the Hellfire Club and maybe Mr. Sinister. id also like to see a mutant attack on the mansion, or maybe sentinels, and it gets destroyed.

but i really dont want them to go into time and space travel. i never liked bishop, cable is ok, but i do not want to see a Shi'ar battle cruiser on film. save that stuff for a straight to DVD animated movie.

 

[GoldGoblin]

X4 should not have Magneto,Mystique,Wolverine,Storm,Jean,Cyclops,or the Professor in it.This way X4 can do a way better job giving screen time to the other X-Men members.

The X-Men team should be:Colossus,Iceman,Beast,Angel,Shadowcat.And we need to see a brand new villain for this new team of X-Men.

Maybe it can show Leech in the X-Mansion,and he gets a cold,and when he is sick all the mutants who got cured get their powers back for that period.So Rogue can use her powers to be on the team when Leech is sick.

So basically if Leech dies the cured mutants get their powers back permanently.The goverment thinks the cure has failed,and decides to go to plan B,to have Sentinels hunt down mutants and put them in camps,and the ones who don't surrender to them are killed.

 

[Cosmic Mind]

I think that is to early to sena new start on X4, why? because of the bunch of plot holes that X3 left....