The Witcher 3

[XtremelyBaneful]

witcher 3's graphics were allegedly downgraded
http://imgur.com/a/K3uFC

 

[DarthSkywalker]

HAHAHAHA, no.

 

[Benstamania]

No.

Let's be realistic.. MOST people won't be able to play the game at its ultra max settings. Even PC players. Some may but most won't.

I've read multiple hands in reports that the XB1 and PS4 ports are se of if not the best looking games on the systems thus far. PC will obviously look better.. But it's not downgraded. Not at all.

 

[Benstamania]

Leaked XB1 footage.. Looks great. The whole 900p vs 1080p is basically a non-issue.

Shock. I know.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1043671

 

[James]

What is this, PS2?

 

[Thundercrack85]

witcher 3's graphics were allegedly downgraded
http://imgur.com/a/K3uFC

Playstation 6 graphics right there.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I do think they need to start showing these things with a disclaimer.

I don't think Witcher 3 was blatantly false advertising like Ubisoft, but a lot of people assume that what they're seeing will what the console games look like.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

lol

honestly, I don't see a difference. maybe because I haven't been paying that much attention to this game's development.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I do think they need to start showing these things with a disclaimer.

I don't think Witcher 3 was blatantly false advertising like Ubisoft, but a lot of people assume that what they're seeing will what the console games look like.

Then those people are idiots.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Then those people are idiots.

Is that a shot?

But no seriously. In ads, they use the PC footage without any disclaimer.

Personally, after Watch Dogs I just assume every screenshot is from a 12,000 dollar PC.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

lol

honestly, I don't see a difference. maybe because I haven't been paying that much attention to this game's development.

There is a clear difference between the max settings on PC and the average look, which will be seen on consoles. They all look gorgeous, but they clearly have some optimizing.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

There is a clear difference between the max settings on PC and the average look, which will be seen on consoles. They all look gorgeous, but they clearly have some optimizing.

but the pc versions of multiplat games always look better than the respective console versions.

unless people expected the console versions to look as good as good as the PC version, I dunno what all the fuss is about.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

but the pc versions of multiplat games always look better than the respective console versions.

unless people expected the console versions to look as good as good as the PC version, I dunno what all the fuss is about.

Oh I know. But people like to complain and call for false advertising when it clearly isn't the case. Unlike Watch Dogs, where the PC version was destroyed to make the console versions work.

 

[Soapy]

The fact that we should expect games to be downgraded is such sad ****ing commentary on the state of the industry.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

The fact that we should expect games to be downgraded is such sad ****ing commentary on the state of the industry.

that, along with a company having to announce that a game won't be broken at launch.

but, this is an alleged downgrade. we don't know if it's true.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I wish that were the biggest problem. But it's the damn patches that get me.

I buy a game, before I can start it (and downloading takes a while) I have to download a damn 2-5 GB patch.

I realize that mistakes and bugs happen, but this has become the norm in the gaming industry, which is just insane.

I don't think I have a game that isn't a rerelease that doesn't come with a day one patch.

Witcher 3 is no exception.

I call this the era of day one patch, and day one DLC.

 

[Soapy]

Patches really are out of control.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Patches are great, but day 1 patches? That crap is ridiculous. Especially considering their size. It is clear the games aren't finished when they go gold.

I have hated the extra wait, but I love that they delayed the Wild Hunt to bug test it properly.

 

[James]

Oh I know. But people like to complain and call for false advertising when it clearly isn't the case. Unlike Watch Dogs, where the PC version was destroyed to make the console versions work.

If you're shown one product but receive another, what is that called? It's no different than McDonalds displaying plump, towering Big Macs in their advertising only for the actual burger to be a squashed imitation. Now of course these days every man and his dog knows McDonald's adverts are an old joke, but that's not the case with video games -at least not yet.

There are plenty of consumers who don't follow the entire development process, or look as closely at the video game industry as the people in this forum. It's not common knowledge that games frequently display high end graphics in their promotional material that don't accurately represent what the product you'll actually buy will look like. Is that ignorant? Sure, but ignorance isn't a bad thing in and of itself, and it's far from idiocy as you suggest.

Even if there's some legal loophole the publishers can dive through to avoid the practice technically being called false advertising, it's still blatantly misleading.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If you're shown one product but receive another, what is that called? It's no different than McDonalds displaying plump, towering Big Macs in their advertising only for the actual burger to be a squashed imitation. Now of course these days every man and his dog knows McDonald's adverts are an old joke, but that's not the case with video games -at least not yet.

There are plenty of consumers who don't follow the entire development process, or look as closely at the video game industry as the people in this forum. It's not common knowledge that games frequently display high end graphics in their promotional material that don't accurately represent what the product you'll actually buy will look like. Is that ignorant? Sure, but ignorance isn't a bad thing in and of itself, and it's far from idiocy as you suggest.

Even if there's some legal loophole the publishers can dive through to avoid the practice technically being called false advertising, it's still blatantly misleading.

I am not talking about that. I am specifically talking about a game like The Witcher 3, where the PC is what is clearly being promoted and yet people get upset when the console versions look lesser then the PC max settings, even when the company made it clear there would be a different from the start. They said long ago stability was key, and that the consoles would be 900p/30fps.

This isn't Watch Dogs, where the PC version was insanely inferior to what was shown.

 

[James]

I am not talking about that. I am specifically talking about a game like The Witcher 3, where the PC is what is clearly being promoted and yet people get upset when the console versions look lesser then the PC max settings, even when the company made it clear there would be a different from the start. They said long ago stability was key, and that the consoles would be 900p/30fps.

This isn't Watch Dogs, where the PC version was insanely inferior to what was shown.

I know what you're talking about. What I'm saying is, your average Joe consumer has no idea about what the developers have said or even that there's any sort of difference between PC and console. It's absolutely not clear to people when they see an ad on TV and at the end there's the PC logo, along with PS4 and Xbox. To suggest people are idiots for assuming the product they purchase is the product they saw advertised, is wrong. They're not idiots, they were purposefully mislead and have every right to be upset about it. The fact they didn't follow every press release and tidbit of information, or have the gall to expect what they pay for to look like the thing they saw advertised isn't in anyway idiotic.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I know what you're talking about. What I'm saying is, your average Joe consumer has no idea about what the developers have said or even that there's any sort of difference between PC and console. It's absolutely not clear to people when they see an ad on TV and at the end there's the PC logo, along with PS4 and Xbox. To suggest people are idiots for assuming the product they purchase is the product they saw advertised, is wrong. They're not idiots, they were purposefully mislead and have every right to be upset about it. The fact they didn't follow every press release and tidbit of information, or have the gall to expect what they pay for to look like the thing they saw advertised isn't in anyway idiotic.

In which case, how is that not the average Joe consumer's fault? If you don't take care to understand a $60 purchase, what are you doing? This hasn't been hidden. In fact, they have gone out of their way to make this fact known. Are consumers not suppose to take any responsibility for their purchase?

Also, this seems like a really false argument. Mainly do to the fact that if you aren't following this project closely, how would you notice the difference? If you aren't following this from the start, you wouldn't know the difference. So your entire argument is moot. The only way to know the difference, is to have actually paid enough attention from the start. They have also advertised using PS4 and Xbox One footage on television and the PS YT page.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I am not talking about that. I am specifically talking about a game like The Witcher 3, where the PC is what is clearly being promoted and yet people get upset when the console versions look lesser then the PC max settings, even when the company made it clear there would be a different from the start. They said long ago stability was key, and that the consoles would be 900p/30fps.

This isn't Watch Dogs, where the PC version was insanely inferior to what was shown.

See, I don't know about that. When I see an ad on youtube of Witcher 3, with the titles saying for PC, Xbox One, and PS4, I only know that's PC footage because I am already knowledgeable about the series, and industry practices.

With the Division you can actually see people in the comment sections of the trailers asking if that's PC or PS4. They don't say. Only that it will be out on both.

You might be surprised to find how many people don't realize that that is strictly PC footage.

It's vague at best, intentional false advertising at worst.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

See, I don't know about that. When I see an ad on youtube of Witcher 3, with the titles saying for PC, Xbox One, and PS4, I only know that's PC footage because I am already knowledgeable about the series, and industry practices.

With the Division you can actually see people in the comment sections of the trailers asking if that's PC or PS4. They don't say. Only that it will be out on both.

You might be surprised to find how many people don't realize that that is strictly PC footage.

It's vague at best, intentional false advertising at worst.

If there is a PC release, they always show PC footage unless they say differently. This is not 2001. This is 2015. If you don't get it now, that is your fault. Unless you are on the Sony or Microsoft pages, why would you think it is footage from the consoles anyways? Who exactly is surfing The Witcher 3, and doesn't understand this? I don't think we have a lot of 50 year old folks getting on the Witcher bandwagon, that don't have some knowledge. This isn't the Division, this is the Witcher.

CDPR have made it clear that they have only shown PC footage unless they have said different.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You're assuming everyone is as informed as you are.

I know plenty of people who are casual gamers who have never played Witcher and just assume that the ad about a PS4 (and PC) game shows PS4 footage.