i'm sure it won't just be a card going through a machine. they'll probably spruce it up and super impose naked women and cool trippy images like they always do.
anyways, this song sounds more... emotional than the previous films. the previous films's songs are cool sounding, but they lack substance. sort of like the movies...
/\ I think that's the main problem right now with alot of the posters on here that state that it's not a "Bond song" for those reasons. Because, the fact is- this isn't your typical Bond movie. You know it's Bond because of the action sequences, hot girls, and the name- James Bond. Other than that this film is extremely different to what anyone on here is used to.
What I am interested in is- who here has a comment that has read the screenplay for Casino Royal. Because as one of the ones that were lucky to read the script, this song is great.
This song establishes that it is DIFFERENT, this is a much darker, more depressing Bond film. We see how James Bond becomes James Bond. The first sequence doesn't have a big explosion.... if I remember correctly the opening credits
James Bond shoots a guy against a white backdrop (I think in a bathroom) - the James Bond and gun barrel shot.... This brings us into color and then we see the License to Kill card being made.
There isn't any over the top spectacle in the first scene. It's your regular thriller action sequence
killing a couple of guys at horse race (I believe)
more than a classic Bond over the top action opener.
The movie does NOT rely on big spectacle and sound efx for the main source of entertainment- if you think that, you don't know what this film is trying to do and succeeds in doing. This is a complete restart to a harsher and more realistic Bond, this is James Bond after 9/11. It's a different time, it's a different Bond. It's harsh and gritty. Remember that the guy who wrote Crash came on to do a re-write, that should tell you that this film is more of a thriller/drama film than a classic Bond film.
The song, in my opinion, leads perfectly into the upcoming scene which does include over the top action...
This is James Bond at the construction site.
So, for those who are viewing Casino Royal as your typical Bond movie- I can easily see why you might think the way that you do about the song. But, knowing the screenplay and what happens and the major differences, to me this song is great. So, for those with no indepth details- wait until you see it in the actual film, it's going to be great in my opinion because it does fit the tone of the film. It's dark, yes there's action but this is a much darker and depressing film.
So, to those that have also read the screenplay- what do you guys think???
Only thing I would do to it, and will probably be done, is to raise the orchestral part at the end into the cresendo.... which would make it an ever better fade to the next scene.
I guess this makes sense now. The song doesn't sound that bad now that I heard it once more... and can imagine it without the typical action sequence opening.
Where did you read this?! About the title sequence or is that just an assumption? Because I know that the title sequence is supposed to be from the screenplay...
Yeah, I know. I read the screenplay, but it was later changed. It is no longer a look at Bond's dossier (with photos from his past as well as the two killings he does in the pre-title sequence), while his ID card with Double-O number is printed.
It's a cool idea, but we know from people who have seen rough cuts of the film that the title sequence is now more standard imagery; the girls and card/casino imagery. One moment, apparently, is a deck of cards being shot and then blood spilling out.
Sounds cool to me - Daniel Kleinman's title sequences for GE, TND, TWINE, and DAD pretty much all delivered interesting visuals, so I'm excited to see what he cooks up for CR.
The script was leaked online a while ago. The opening isn't an action sequence per say when you think of Bond openings. It is a typical action thriller action sequence, not over the top. So, the reason why the song starts out- as you said slow.... the scene that comes after is over the top, so over the top that it's almost a living cartoon actually- so the song gets faster and louder as it nears the end and I imagine that the orchestral part at the end will probably be made louder in the final mix. So, I actually think it will fix.
I really liked that opening from the script. But, that guy does do awesome opening title sequences so can't wait to see what he comes up with this time.
I definately agree about Klienman's openings, he does some truly fantastic stuff; GE and DAD in particular. Also, about the song, I have to say that it would be one of my favourite Bond songs if not my absolute favourite. The lyrics and music really set a mood for the film and it's a different sort of song as compared to what we're used to so that's an indication as to how this new series will be.
Uh, sorry, but that goes to "The Man with the Golden Gun." Come on, someone singing about that is just silly.
Fried Gold said:
Forgive me for saying, but in a movie about a suave secret agent, with a film title of 'Casino Royale', I want something with a bit of class, a of bit sophisitication, not Chris Cornhole blabbering on about people knowing his name.
as like I said, under different circumstances it could pass itself off as a semi decent rock n roll track. I just wish they'd got some jazz artists or a crooner to rattle off a 'classic' Bond track.
Weak arguement. Many songs start off with just one instrument before breaking in with drums and bass or horns, etc. Should they just "not be there" as well? I understand if you don't like the song, but why don't you just wait and see how it flows with the film.
That stuff of him in the casino and in the train? Pretty suave. Stylish. Cool. He's coldhearted, but there's also a coolness and a sense of style there. I'm not sure that this song really fits Craig all that well, though I understand the attempt to be edgy, just like he is.
probably been mentioned but at the end when "you know my name" is repeated you can hear a little bit of the james bond theme just the first 3 notes dum....dum....dum
i uhhh well i love the how the new movie is turning out but i really dont like this bond song. i hope it doesnt put a bad taste in my mouth early on. if they have really amazing opening credits the song could work. who knows
The first time I heard this song, I immediately stopped listening and I disliked it. I don't mind the lyrics, but the vocals aren't strong enough. The track is a bit too aggressive (but in a pop-light sort of way) for this singer's voice, and it's noticeable when he tries to strain his way through some of the chorus parts.
It sounds like Jet made this on a bathroom break during a set performance.
What I'm trying to say is that the verses of the song are its strong point for me, but the chorus just sounds too commercial.
Whoever thinks that this song can stand against 'Diamonds are Forever(my fav)', 'The Man w/ the Golden Gun,' or 'Live and Let Die', is nuts.
edit - the song need a more distinctive voice for the track a la Axl Rose or one w/ some 'gravel appeal'.
i really like this track alot..there have been many upbeat bond tunes..some not very bond-ish...madonna godawful die another day springs to mind..
others too which were upbeat too like the living daylights(a-ha),veiw to a kill(duran duran)...even lulu had a go with man with the golden gun...that wasnt bondish at all...i think this ones great...very much bond with a modern feel.
the worst one ever was madonna effort...that was terrible..
Well, this isn't going to be the best opening ever....but this beats the last two Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day..and it also beats The Spy who Loved Me IMO (that theme sounds like a commercial for cake), and A View to a Kill.
I think it has appeal to grow on me. I can see this as an opener...I mean to be honest, the only thing that separates this song from MOST of the others is that its song by a man instead of a woman. Can you remember any of the other songs sung by a man? Otherwise, I can feel the James Bond vibe from this song. I do agree this feels more emotional that most of the openers
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